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Apple wraps up development of Apple Remote Desktop 3

post #1 of 22
4/5/06 at 1:45pm
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The development of Apple Computer's next-generation remote desktop management software, Apple Remote Desktop 3.0, is complete, AppleInsider has learned.

The major update, which was reported on last year, is expected to deliver about a dozen prime features such as an AutoInstall function, network copy and paste, and remote Spotlight search capabilities.

While the feature set of ADR 3.0 has changed only slightly over the past year, usually reliable sources are reporting that the software package has adopted at least one new gizmo: a Dashboard widget.

The new widget will reportedly allow administrators to select a client machine from a list and observe it in the Dashboard environment.

Other expected features of ARD 3.0 include a privacy or "curtain mode," improved file copy support, and detailed user and application usage reports.

Sources have suggested Apple could release the software soon. Alternatively, the company may decide to withhold the release until it unveils its next-generation operating system, Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard -- similar to a move it made with Apple Remote Desktop 2.2 and Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger.
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post #2 of 22
4/5/06 at 1:49pm
I wonder if OS X Server will allow, now with Boot Camp, to do what Ghost does for PCs? Imagine a 60,000 seat contract who can now buy Macs and have images blasted to satisfy their PC side.
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post #3 of 22
4/5/06 at 2:14pm
I assume "Curtain Mode" allows the remote administrator to blank out the screen while he/she is interfacing with it. That's a nice option. I hope that it allows the remote administrator and the local user to access the computer at the same time like OSXvnc does.
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post #4 of 22
4/5/06 at 2:34pm
Waiting would be a bad move. I know a number of people administrating Mac labs in schools who have been waiting for this upgrade.
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post #5 of 22
4/5/06 at 2:36pm
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Originally posted by melgross
Waiting would be a bad move. I know a number of people administrating Mac labs in schools who have been waiting for this upgrade.

I admin about 35 macs at a small org, and the sooner the better, for sure.
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post #6 of 22
4/5/06 at 3:12pm
Waiting would suck for those of us with Intel based Macs since 2.x doesn't work under Rosetta.
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post #7 of 22
4/5/06 at 3:30pm
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Originally posted by macslut
Waiting would suck for those of us with Intel based Macs since 2.x doesn't work under Rosetta.

There is a hack workaround (can't find a link offhand). However, they really need to get a universal version out ASAP.
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post #8 of 22
4/5/06 at 3:59pm
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Originally posted by auxio
There is a hack workaround (can't find a link offhand). However, they really need to get a universal version out ASAP.

there is a workaround, but it isn't fully usable.

The problem is that many schools still use System 9, and earlier, as well.
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post #9 of 22
4/5/06 at 3:59pm
I wish they'd offer something better for home and "SOHO" users. It doesn't have to be the same as the enterprise version, but I want something that is better than just using a VNC client. Even if they just released a "family pack" good for five computers, that would be great.
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post #10 of 22
4/5/06 at 4:10pm
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Originally posted by fahlman
I assume "Curtain Mode" allows the remote administrator to blank out the screen while he/she is interfacing with it. That's a nice option. I hope that it allows the remote administrator and the local user to access the computer at the same time like OSXvnc does.

Check the original report on ADR3 linked in this article, we talk about it.

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post #11 of 22
4/5/06 at 4:30pm
ARD management with Directory Services (AD, OD, etc.) has been broken since 10.4.0. (Works great in 10.3.9). ARD 2.2 has always seemed like a quirky, buggy app. Why do installs just randomly fail 75% of the time when I try to push a package? Why do most tasks fail when the short username of the account using ARD console is over a certain length? Why does Software Difference seem to print out every single thing the he clients have in common, instead of just things that they have that are different?

About time for an update. This app has been ignored too long. We've really been wanting to use it in our institution (100s of Macs) but these problems have been holding us back.
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post #12 of 22
4/5/06 at 5:04pm
Bring it on Apple!
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post #13 of 22
4/5/06 at 5:36pm
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Originally posted by AppleInsider
While the feature set of ADR 3.0 has changed only slightly over the past year, usually reliable sources are reporting that the software package has adopted at least one new gizmo: a Dashboard widget.

The new widget will reportedly allow administrators to select a client machine from a list and observe it in the Dashboard environment....

...Sources have suggested Apple could release the software soon. Alternatively, the company may decide to withhold the release until it unveils its next-generation operating system, Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard

Or they could wait to release it with a new handheld device that doesn't use the conventional processing power of a full fledged Mac. Holy Crap! I can't believe they can run it within a widget. That means they have been able to write the windowing within Java, right? I mean Widgets only use HTLM, CSS and Java I believe.

Alright, maybe I'm just being too wishful.
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post #14 of 22
4/5/06 at 5:53pm
You could also use this handheld... thing... as a dockable photoframe device where the photo is display via a widget. 'Course I presented this idea about a year ago and was promptly shot down.
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post #15 of 22
4/6/06 at 12:34am
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Originally posted by rongold
Or they could wait to release it with a new handheld device that doesn't use the conventional processing power of a full fledged Mac. Holy Crap! I can't believe they can run it within a widget. That means they have been able to write the windowing within Java, right? I mean Widgets only use HTLM, CSS and Java I believe.

Alright, maybe I'm just being too wishful.

Widgets use WebKit/WebCore which is ObjC++/C++.

http://webkit.opendarwin.org/projects/
http://wiki.opendarwin.org/index.php/WebKit
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post #16 of 22
4/6/06 at 3:00am
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Originally posted by mdriftmeyer
Widgets use WebKit/WebCore which is ObjC++/C++.

http://webkit.opendarwin.org/projects/
http://wiki.opendarwin.org/index.php/WebKit

Plus they can call to any Cocoa code. So in theory you can make any app run in dashboard; it just wouldn't be a wise idea.
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post #17 of 22
4/6/06 at 6:00am
The VPN market is certainly something they need to start taking into account. I can download a free Windows Remote Desktop client, for Mac or PC and use it to access my PC at work.

On the other hand I can't do the same with the Apple Remote Desktop, since I need to buy both components, that is client and server

Until then I will use VNC.
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post #18 of 22
4/6/06 at 3:55pm
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Originally posted by ajmas
The VPN market is certainly something they need to start taking into account. I can download a free Windows Remote Desktop client, for Mac or PC and use it to access my PC at work.

On the other hand I can't do the same with the Apple Remote Desktop, since I need to buy both components, that is client and server

Until then I will use VNC.

VPN market? Huh? You mean VNC?

You don't need to buy the ARD daemon, it comes free with OS X. You can download the latest version at http://www.apple.com/downloads/macos...pupdate22.html

The you can use any free VNC client (Mac or PC) to access the Mac, such as Chicken of the VNC.
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post #19 of 22
4/6/06 at 4:27pm
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Originally posted by danielctull
Plus they can call to any Cocoa code. So in theory you can make any app run in dashboard; it just wouldn't be a wise idea.

Oh, so you can use regular web languages(HTML, CSS, XML, Javascript) AND Cocoa. Even better.
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post #20 of 22
4/6/06 at 7:49pm
its really incredible that no matter what the topic, any thread can turn into someone's request for a mac tablet!
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post #21 of 22
4/6/06 at 8:32pm
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Originally posted by bborofka
You don't need to buy the ARD daemon, it comes free with OS X. You can download the latest version at http://www.apple.com/downloads/macos...pupdate22.html

The you can use any free VNC client (Mac or PC) to access the Mac, such as Chicken of the VNC.

This is true, but vanilla VNC doesn't have any of the nifty looking ARD features. For my small business, when I add another Macs or two, I would like to have ARD, but not at the current cost for 10 clients, especially as I don't need five. That's why I suggested a home and small business edition, or "family pack" if you like to call it that.
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post #22 of 22
4/6/06 at 8:51pm
Yum Yum gimmie some!

Especially now that I am on a MBP!!

and ARD 2 doesn't work!

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