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4/15/06 at 2:43am

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Crazy as this sounds, im having serious problems trying to get my powerbook to turn on, it seems that unless its hot it just crashs as tiger loads, its in a room at 19.2c so its not freezing, i cleared the log last night so i could post the data, this is it, if you can help me out it would be amazing, its driving me nuts, thanks:

Panic.log
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Thu Apr 13 10:28:03 2006

Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x00000000FFFFE906 PC=0x000000000007BF70
Latest crash info for cpu 0:
Exception state (sv=0x31969000)
PC=0x0007BF70; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0xFFFFE906; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x0007C1C4; R1=0x1763B060; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x00000000 0x0007C1C4 0x0028A134 0x000DE9CC 0x000DE34C 0x00228CE0
0x000FC090 0x000F54B8 0x000F53B8 0x002A6FD4 0x0005F404 0x0026403C 0x00264734 0x002AABD4
0x000ABEB0 0x50434926
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x31969000)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x2D3BA780)
PC=0x90045EEC; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x000070CC; DSISR=0x0A000000; LR=0x90089A74; R1=0xBFFFF810; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.0: Tue Mar 7 16:58:48 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.70.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): copyin/out has no recovery point
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x00095718 0x00095C30 0x0002683C 0x000A8384 0x000ABD00
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x31969000)
PC=0x0007BF70; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0xFFFFE906; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x0007C1C4; R1=0x1763B060; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x00000000 0x0007C1C4 0x0028A134 0x000DE9CC 0x000DE34C 0x00228CE0
0x000FC090 0x000F54B8 0x000F53B8 0x002A6FD4 0x0005F404 0x0026403C 0x00264734 0x002AABD4
0x000ABEB0 0x50434926
Exception state (sv=0x2D3BA780)
PC=0x90045EEC; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x000070CC; DSISR=0x0A000000; LR=0x90089A74; R1=0xBFFFF810; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.0: Tue Mar 7 16:58:48 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.70.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

*********

Thu Apr 13 21:46:49 2006

Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000000000000 PC=0x00000000002C4550
Latest crash info for cpu 0:
Exception state (sv=0x2D084280)
PC=0x002C4550; MSR=0x00001030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x000B4480; R1=0x175C3D00; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x00000000 0x0003D4CC 0x00032914 0x0003252C 0x00032BD8 0x00025300
0x000AC138 0x01E97580
backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFFCFB0

Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x2D084280)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x3B242780)
PC=0x9001F5EC; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x015C9000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x000071E4; R1=0xBFFFFAF0; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.0: Tue Mar 7 16:58:48 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.70.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x00095718 0x00095C30 0x0002683C 0x000A8384 0x000ABD00
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x2D084280)
PC=0x002C4550; MSR=0x00001030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x000B4480; R1=0x175C3D00; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x00000000 0x0003D4CC 0x00032914 0x0003252C 0x00032BD8 0x00025300
0x000AC138 0x01E97580
backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFFCFB0

Exception state (sv=0x3B242780)
PC=0x9001F5EC; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x015C9000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x000071E4; R1=0xBFFFFAF0; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.0: Tue Mar 7 16:58:48 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.70.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

*********

Fri Apr 14 13:00:16 2006

Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x00000000000003A6 PC=0x000000000025F250
Latest crash info for cpu 0:
Exception state (sv=0x3B6AF280)
PC=0x0025F250; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x000003A6; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x0025D1CC; R1=0x17663E00; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x0025D1CC 0x0025CFCC 0x002AABD4 0x000ABEB0 0x0909093C
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x3B6AF280)
previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
Exception state (sv=0x2D087A00)
PC=0x9001494C; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0xA13E059C; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x913EEDCC; R1=0xF00801F0; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.0: Tue Mar 7 16:58:48 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.70.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x00095718 0x00095C30 0x0002683C 0x000A8384 0x000ABD00
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x3B6AF280)
PC=0x0025F250; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x000003A6; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x0025D1CC; R1=0x17663E00; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
Backtrace:
0x0025D1CC 0x0025CFCC 0x002AABD4 0x000ABEB0 0x0909093C
Exception state (sv=0x2D087A00)
PC=0x9001494C; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0xA13E059C; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x913EEDCC; R1=0xF00801F0; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.0: Tue Mar 7 16:58:48 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.70.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC

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hardware is:

Machine Name

tPowerBook G4 15"
Machine Model

tPowerBook5,2
CPU Type

tPowerPC G4 (1.1)
Number Of CPUs

t1
CPU Speed

t1 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU)

t512 KB
Memory

t1 GB
Bus Speed

t167 MHz
Boot ROM Version

t4.7.1f1

and this is the wifi config as i keep reading this can cause crashing:

Wireless Card Type

tAirPort Extreme
Wireless Card Locale

tWorldwide
Wireless Card Firmware Version

t404.2 (3.90.34.0.p16)
Current Wireless Network

tJames_wifi
Wireless Channel

t6

i hope you can help me, thanks

James

ps, once it is up and running it will be stable all day and only crashes on waking from sleep if its cooled i guess

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4/15/06 at 4:56pm

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If you load up disk utility and select your hard drive, what does it say the SMART status of the drive is down the bottom? Also, have you run disk utility to check for drive errors?

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4/15/06 at 5:22pm

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I once had a problem that was the opposite - a IIcx (hey, it was new at the time) that would boot *only* if it was cold. Once it warmed up past a certain temperature, it locked hard. I had to wait 15-20 minutes for it to cool down.

It took *months* to diagnose what was going on, even after several trips to the Apple repair unit at the local computer store.

It had a cracked RAM slot. When the machine warmed up, thermal expansion would shove the RAM DIMM out of the slot *just* enough to cause a short, and blammo. When it cooled, it all shrunk back down to have solid contact.

Check to see if your RAM is all seated correctly. It may be that, in your case, heat is causing thermal expansion to *create* a solid connection.

My brain is hung like a HORSE!

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4/16/06 at 7:42am

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Quote:

Originally posted by Marvin
If you load up disk utility and select your hard drive, what does it say the SMART status of the drive is down the bottom? Also, have you run disk utility to check for drive errors?

Checked the SMART status and its "Verified" i have also checked for errors and it comes back clean. have also run "Mac HelpMate" application to solve any other niggles, but i have it cracked now how to turn it on:

1.Turn on and let it crash
2.Leave it crashed for 2mins
3.Turn it on and it works

How weird is that?

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4/16/06 at 8:12am

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how about not turning it of? or better yet, send it back!

Bill Bradley to comedian Bill Cosby: "Bill, you are a comic, tell us a joke!"
- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"

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4/16/06 at 9:51am

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Quote:

Originally posted by New
how about not turning it of? or better yet, send it back!

Well, thats the best advice ever! i would send it back but she is a bit old for that now

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4/16/06 at 10:29am

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Find a local Apple Authorized Service and Repair Agent. Shouldn't be too expensive.

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4/16/06 at 11:33am

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Quote:

Originally posted by roseyboy
Well, thats the best advice ever! i would send it back but she is a bit old for that now

sorry, I was under the impression that it was new. Also, here in norway we have a two to five year guarantee on these things by law.

Bill Bradley to comedian Bill Cosby: "Bill, you are a comic, tell us a joke!"
- "Senator, you are a politician, first tell us a lie!"

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4/16/06 at 11:56am

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Try booting while holding command-v (let go when the text comes up). This just boots in verbose mode and lets you see the boot process in text. It might help pinpoint when a crash is happening.

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4/16/06 at 2:04pm

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Quote:

Originally posted by New
sorry, I was under the impression that it was new. Also, here in norway we have a two to five year guarantee on these things by law.

ahhh ok that explains, in the UK we get a year, plus this one was already a insurance claim as i dropped my 12" onto a marble floor ooops, thanks for advice, just wish i could use it,

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4/16/06 at 2:05pm

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Quote:

Originally posted by Marvin
Try booting while holding command-v (let go when the text comes up). This just boots in verbose mode and lets you see the boot process in text. It might help pinpoint when a crash is happening.

Thanks ill give this ago and post the results, i tried reinstalling at first, but the machine crashed off the Tiger disc, so its hardware for sure..... will post when i can, Thanks for helping.

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4/17/06 at 7:27am

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This may be an obvious question, but have you installed any third party RAM? If you have, remove it and see if the problem clears itself up. If it does, your RAM is faulty and you should contact the supplier to get it replaced.

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4/17/06 at 7:59am

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FYI: Memory buffer overflow post and F/U split off to separate thread in Genius Bar.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...278#post903278

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4/18/06 at 2:59pm

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Quote:

Originally posted by Robin Hood
This may be an obvious question, but have you installed any third party RAM? If you have, remove it and see if the problem clears itself up. If it does, your RAM is faulty and you should contact the supplier to get it replaced.

tried that, no luck, also ran "memtest" which came back clean, using my leave it method if it crashes and then restart, its been fine for the rest of the day, still its a bloody pain.

Thanks to all who have suggested, think im just going to live with it

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4/18/06 at 6:11pm

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