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post #41 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:00am
Would love to have one in an indestructible Carbon fiber case in black!
Wouldn't you? No dents possible!

I have a dent in my PB 1.67 and it's really upsetting.
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post #42 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:04am
W00T! I got the specs exactly right!

I just made the price 100 higher than it is.

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and is likely to pack additional storage capacity, well-placed sources have said.

Like I said back when this was said: "This just means a bigger standard HD people."

lol people get so overexcited sometimes and want to believe this means more than it sounds.

I predicted these EXACT specs earlier this month on the 8th.

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$2899 MacBook Pro
17" Widescreen
2.16GHz Intel Core Duo
1GB memory
120GB 5400rpm HD
SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory
Built-in AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth 2.0
Built in iSight
Apple Remote

So far my apple predictions this year for the most part have all been coming true!

I love this, only $100 off!

I can't wait for my 3 macbook prediction+specs to come true now!
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post #43 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:10am
Nobody listened to me when I said I had reliable info that the FW 800 absence was temporary and it'd be back as soon as Apple & Intel ironed it out. Glad I was right. Partly because I can gloat, and partly because it's overall a good thing.

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post #44 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:14am
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Originally posted by Zenga
where is the 13.3" macBook?

Some people obviously can't figure this out...but Apple doesn't release every single new product on the same day.
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post #45 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:29am
Can these new intel laps run MS via boot camp?
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post #46 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:37am
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Originally posted by Timeline
Can these new intel laps run MS via boot camp?

I'd expect that the guts are pretty much the same as the 15" MBP, so it should work. The only thing which might not work is the FW 800 port.
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post #47 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:47am
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a 17" laptop without a numeric keypad? not too smart. no thanks.

Same as the previous model I guess. Has anyone here used a notebook with a numeric pad? I don't think I would like typing "off center".
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post #48 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:55am
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Who the fuck cares about a numeric keypad? This isn't 1996. Deleted by moderator

Jesus that was harsh!

(Harsh and gone - JL)
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post #49 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:56am
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Originally posted by JeffDM
Same as the previous model I guess. Has anyone here used a notebook with a numeric pad? I don't think I would like typing "off center".

I'd love to have a numeric keypad, that's one thing I really miss on a laptop, especially with apps that use it for key commands. Although it probably would have to be implemented without having to push the alpha keys too far to the left.

Spyder, not sure exactly what your point is, did someone just piss in your cheerios this morning or something?
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post #50 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:57am
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Originally posted by minderbinder
I'd love to have a numeric keypad, that's one thing I really miss on a laptop, especially with apps that use it for key commands. Although it probably would have to be implemented without having to push the alpha keys too far to the left.

Spyder, not sure exactly what your point is, did someone just piss in your cheerios this morning or something?

No, I hate cheerios more than I hate numeric keypads.
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post #51 of 95
4/24/06 at 11:59am
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Originally posted by ecking
W00T! I got the specs exactly right!

I just made the price 100 higher than it is.
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Originally posted by appleinsider

and is likely to pack additional storage capacity, well-placed sources have said.

Like I said back when this was said: "This just means a bigger standard HD people."

lol people get so overexcited sometimes and want to believe this means more than it sounds.

I predicted these EXACT specs earlier this month on the 8th.
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Originally posted by ecking

$2899 MacBook Pro
17" Widescreen
2.16GHz Intel Core Duo
1GB memory
120GB 5400rpm HD
SuperDrive (DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with 256MB GDDR3 memory
Built-in AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth 2.0
Built in iSight
Apple Remote

So far my apple predictions this year for the most part have all been coming true!

I love this, only $100 off!

I can't wait for my 3 macbook prediction+specs to come true now!

Very good.

But that was the obvious part, except for the price.
You just had to look at the specs of the various incarnations of the 15"PB compared to the 17" PB and extrapolate the specs of the 15" MBP the same way.
So:
- biggest BTO HD
- largest GPU
- processor 1 step ahead.

I would have been surprised if you would have predicted the following specs also:
- 1 x FW800 and 1x FW 400
- 3 x USB2
- 8x double-layer SuperDrive
- 1 inch thickness
And sticked to it during the heavy debat that would have followed @FH

That would have been really cool.

The pricetag was pretty good though.
Much lower and more accurate than I expected.
Due to the fact that the 15"MBP 2,16Ghz has a $2,799 pricetag I expected the 17"MBP to be at least $2,999 maybe $3,099.
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post #52 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:03pm
Ordered mine a few hours ago with the 2gb of ram...estimated ship date is May 8...and estimated to arrive on May 11. I have been waiting awhile for the 17inch to come out...now I don't have too much longer to wait
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post #53 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:04pm
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Originally posted by spyder
Who the fuck cares about a numeric keypad? This isn't 1996. Deleted by moderator

That was immature and totally uncalled for.
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post #54 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:06pm
Ok, so what gives. Taken from Apple's site:

Size and weight
15-inch MacBook Pro
Height: 1.0 inch (2.59 cm)
Width: 14.1 inches (35.7 cm)
Depth: 9.6 inches (24.3 cm)
Weight: 5.6 pounds (2.54 kg) with battery and optical drive installed (4)
17-inch MacBook Pro
Height: 1.0 inch (2.59 cm)
Width: 15.4 inches (39.2 cm)
Depth: 10.4 inches (26.5 cm)
Weight: 6.8 pounds (3.1 kg) with battery and optical drive installed (4)


Why is it that the 17" can sport the DL Superdrive, it's the same height. Am I missing something?
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post #55 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:38pm
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Originally posted by spyder
No, I hate cheerios more than I hate numeric keypads.

What's to hate about numeric keypads? How else would you type lots of numbers one handed? Or use keyboard shortcuts that specifically use the keypad?


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Why is it that the 17" can sport the DL Superdrive, it's the same height. Am I missing something? [/B]

Because in the 15" the drive has to fit under the trackpad, which takes up space. On the 17 it fits because there's room to the right of the trackpad hardware.
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post #56 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:41pm
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Originally posted by spyder
Who the fuck cares about a numeric keypad? This isn't 1996. Deleted by moderator

Boy! And some of you guys think I'm bad!

What I would like to see, now that there seems to be enough 2.16's around, is for Apple to update the iMac's to 2.0 and 2.16.

It's just not right that the laptops, pro or not, be even slightly faster.

Anything that can help Rosetta gain a few percentage points is good.
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post #57 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:44pm
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Originally posted by JeffDM
That was immature and totally uncalled for.

Yeah, take that back or you'll get this...

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNew...547128-ap.html

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post #58 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:44pm
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Some people obviously can't figure this out...but Apple doesn't release every single new product on the same day.

so you're a virgin too!
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post #59 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:45pm
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Boy! And some of you guys think I'm bad!

I don't think you are bad. You don't resort to petty emo outbursts or personal attacks either.
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post #60 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:48pm
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so you're a virgin too!

What are you talking about?
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post #61 of 95
4/24/06 at 12:54pm
Is 2GB *REALLY* the max amount of RAM? Micron (which is what Apple uses) makes a 2GB Memory Module that is the same specs as the 512MB and 1GB that is inside the MacBook Pro.
Crucial sells them for nearly $700 each. It sure would be nice... nobody is willing to try it untill the price comes down I guess.
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post #62 of 95
4/24/06 at 1:13pm
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Is 2GB *REALLY* the max amount of RAM? Micron (which is what Apple uses) makes a 2GB Memory Module that is the same specs as the 512MB and 1GB that is inside the MacBook Pro.
Crucial sells them for nearly $700 each. It sure would be nice... nobody is willing to try it untill the price comes down I guess.

It has to do with addressability, and the socket. While the OS, and cpu have no problem, the memory controller might.

Even if that didn't, there would need to be enough addressing lines coming from the socket. If those lines (traces) aren't there, then no dice.

Since memory uses a fair amount of power, and produces a fair amount of heat, few laptops can address more than 2GB.
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post #63 of 95
4/24/06 at 1:15pm
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Is 2GB *REALLY* the max amount of RAM? Micron (which is what Apple uses) makes a 2GB Memory Module that is the same specs as the 512MB and 1GB that is inside the MacBook Pro.
Crucial sells them for nearly $700 each. It sure would be nice... nobody is willing to try it untill the price comes down I guess.

Ouch. I might be willing to spring for a 2GB stick for a notebook, but not this month, and only if there is a good return policy that doesn't sock me with a big restocking fee. I would expect that if the boards are compatible with existing Intel chipsets, then it should work in the MBP.
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post #64 of 95
4/24/06 at 1:17pm
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Originally posted by melgross
It has to do with addressability, and the socket. While the OS, and cpu have no problem, the memory controller might.

Even if that didn't, there would need to be enough addressing lines coming from the socket. If those lines (traces) aren't there, then no dice.

Since memory uses a fair amount of power, and produces a fair amount of heat, few laptops can address more than 2GB.

But we don't know for sure, do we? Has anyone tried the bigger ram sticks in ANY of the intel macs? Seems likely that someone would have considering people have already done crazier things like swapping CPU's in the imac and mini.
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post #65 of 95
4/24/06 at 1:23pm
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But we don't know for sure, do we? Has anyone tried the bigger ram sticks in ANY of the intel macs? Seems likely that someone would have considering people have already done crazier things like swapping CPU's in the imac and mini.

I have heard a few whispers like "I heard that someone tried it and it worked great" but no real proof. I have also seen laptops with the same Intel Dual Core processors that advertise a 4GB RAM max.
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post #66 of 95
4/24/06 at 1:26pm
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But we don't know for sure, do we? Has anyone tried the bigger ram sticks in ANY of the intel macs? Seems likely that someone would have considering people have already done crazier things like swapping CPU's in the imac and mini.

Right! We don't know for sure. But with the heat problems we are seeing, it would be a good conclusion to come to.

I think that Apple would have a problem on their hands if 4GB RAM overheated the machines, and caused them to fail.
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post #67 of 95
4/24/06 at 1:52pm
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Is 2GB *REALLY* the max amount of RAM?

The Intel memory controller can access 2GB DDR2-667 or 4GB DDR2-533 RAM.
But does Apples EFI implementation support them?

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I have also seen laptops with the same Intel Dual Core processors that advertise a 4GB RAM max.

And this before 2GB modules were even available
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post #68 of 95
4/24/06 at 1:55pm
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Originally posted by spyder
Who the fuck cares about a numeric keypad? This isn't 1996. Deleted by moderator

Ladies and Gentlemen, Steve Jobs.

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post #69 of 95
4/24/06 at 2:07pm
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Originally posted by smalM
The Intel memory controller can access 2GB DDR2-667 or 4GB DDR2-533 RAM.
But does Apples EFI implementation support them?



And this before 2GB modules were even available

If the memory controller can only address 2GB DDR2 RAM, then that is the max.

But, are you talking about per DIMM or total?

If it's per DIMM, then the question is as I left it.
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post #70 of 95
4/24/06 at 2:09pm
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Please elaborate.


Don't feed the trolls.

Anytime Apple comes out with something cool, they crawl out from underneath of their rocks.

If you ignore them, they'll quickly go back to www.DellRocks.com
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post #71 of 95
4/24/06 at 2:10pm
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Originally posted by spyder
Who the fuck cares about a numeric keypad? This isn't 1996. Deleted by moderator

While I agree that the original post is idiotic, be careful. Karma is a funny thing.
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post #72 of 95
4/24/06 at 2:11pm
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Originally posted by walshbj
a 17" laptop without a numeric keypad? not too smart. no thanks.

What are you? An Accountant?

No? You're not?

Then go back to your swamp, Troll.
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post #73 of 95
4/24/06 at 2:16pm
I think this is a great update at a great price.

I use the last generation PowerPC PB17, and while I am tempted to buy this beauty, I will wait.

For me, what I have today works fine, and I will wait for:

1. The Merom chips which burn less power and generate less heat. Longer battery life is critical to me since I do international travel.

2. Wait for the kinks to be worked out. The heat and noise problems in the current 15" MBP's would really piss me off. I suspect these have these problems worked out, but I'll wait for the reviews just to be safe.

3. Finally, I'd like the 2.33GHZ and the x1800 GPU and 160gig hard drives. Not that I need them--well, maybe I need the bigger hard drive since you can always fill a drive--but if I am going to spend 3 grand, I don't mind waiting 6 more months to the maximum for my money and help with the longevity of my investment.

I think my next personal Mac purchase is going to be a Pro desktop.
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post #74 of 95
4/24/06 at 2:35pm
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Who the fuck cares about a numeric keypad? This isn't 1996. Deleted by moderator

Holy shit! I'm sorry everyone, but that's one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum. I really don't know why it's made me laugh so much - I think it's because it was so unexpected.

But seriously, a numeric keypad can be useful for a few things, but most people don't use them, and to provide one would mean the main keyboard would have to be off-centre. On the other hand, all that extra space in the 17" just seems a bit... wasted. Anyone ever had any ideas of a good use it could be put to?
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post #75 of 95
4/24/06 at 2:38pm
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1. The Merom chips which burn less power and generate less heat. Longer battery life is critical to me since I do international travel.

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3. Finally, I'd like the 2.33GHZ and the x1800 GPU ...

These points seem to contradict each other somewhat.

Also, is Merom meant to use less power? I thought it was the same power, but 20% higher performance at the same clock rate?
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post #76 of 95
4/24/06 at 3:47pm
Hopefully the 15" MacBook Pro prices will drop slightly. I don't want the gigantor 17" model but what a 15" with its specs. If I BTOed a 15" with all the goodies it will cost more than the 17" and still not include Dual Layer burning. Lucky for me, I won't be ordering for a few months longer.
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post #77 of 95
4/24/06 at 3:52pm
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Originally posted by spyder
Who the fuck cares about a numeric keypad? This isn't 1996. Deleted by moderator

Wow. Funniest thing I've read all day.
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post #78 of 95
4/24/06 at 4:10pm
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I thought it was the same power, but 20% higher performance at the same clock rate? [/B]

Yup!
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post #79 of 95
4/24/06 at 5:21pm
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Originally posted by melgross
If the memory controller can only address 2GB DDR2 RAM, then that is the max.

But, are you talking about per DIMM or total?

If it's per DIMM, then the question is as I left it.

The 945 addresses 4GB RAM but it can only access 2GB at FSB667.

RAM not DIMM.
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post #80 of 95
4/24/06 at 6:20pm
RIGHT HERE'S THE MONSTER (below)





Final Cut Pro Studio running native at lightning speed!!








Bigger battery that reportedly lasts 5 1/2 hours!!








Nice screen resolution to boot!



If you're in the market for a 17" portable, look no further. If you're not, do! Buy a 15" MacBook Pro or have patience for you know what?

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