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http://www.newscientist.com/blog/invention/
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This kind of stuff scares me. Imagine if you are just quietly jerkin' to your porn and some hacker decides to broadcast you to the world. It's easy to forget about a camera hidden in your display if you don't use it.
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Originally posted by Marvin
This kind of stuff scares me. Imagine if you are just quietly jerkin' to your porn and some hacker decides to broadcast you to the world. It's easy to forget about a camera hidden in your display if you don't use it.

Talk about the next best video: Nerds Gone Wild

Anyways, I am certain that Apple would engineer it to where you knew that the cameras were on or off. Sorta like the green light on the iSight.

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post #4 of 18
That's pretty cool - all you need is a green LED above or below the screen and you are sorted. Apple can't afford to make their own screens when it is so much cheaper to get them from other manufacturers, but this does allow them to sell the idea to a screen manufacturer I guess.
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I thought this cam already existed. I think there is a TelePrompTer camera that actually prompts your lines for you that takes the pictures as well. I believe it's in use in various TV broadcasting stations. It looks like a screen that you read from, but while it's scrolling text it's actually a studio camera. News people can address the screen more clearly.
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post #6 of 18
star trek technology in my lifetime.

that's excellent.

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post #7 of 18
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Originally posted by onlooker
I thought this cam already existed. I think there is a TelePrompTer camera that actually prompts your lines for you that takes the pictures as well. I believe it's in use in various TV broadcasting stations. It looks like a screen that you read from, but while it's scrolling text it's actually a studio camera. News people can address the screen more clearly.

Actually, it is camera on top of a TV screen with a piece of glass slanted at a 45° angle. That is why it looks like one piece of hardware, because the camera just sees through the glass, but when the bubble-head (oops.... reporter) looks at it, they get the image from the TV screen.

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post #8 of 18
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Originally posted by JTBLQ
star trek technology in my lifetime.

that's excellent.


I get that, funny

Wouldn't it be great if we could do video calls and actually look at each other!
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
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post #9 of 18
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Originally posted by Marvin
This kind of stuff scares me. Imagine if you are just quietly jerkin' to your porn and some hacker decides to broadcast you to the world. It's easy to forget about a camera hidden in your display if you don't use it.

Originally posted by Mike Eggleston
Talk about the next best video: Nerds Gone Wild

I'm not really into gay porn
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
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post #10 of 18
Perhaps the biggest application of this is it combined with flexible OLEDs to make live-updating camoflage.
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Originally posted by Placebo
Perhaps the biggest application of this is it combined with flexible OLEDs to make live-updating camoflage.

You read DIGG too?
In about say 15 or 17 years time, this will be completely normal within video calls! (cell and comp)
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
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post #12 of 18
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I just thought, this doesn't have to be for laptops at all, you could easily replace the iPod's screen with one of these and turn it into a camera.
post #13 of 18
This would definitely be a very cool development. Laptop, desktop, cellphone and iPod usages are all quite cool.

Apple has tried to get closer to a "real" face-to-face experience of video phone calls with the integration and positioning of the iSight into the iMac/Mac Book Pro (and Cinemas Displays and Mac Book consumer if the rumors are to be believed).

Apple tends to put the "pieces of the puzzle" together slowly and then "Boom!" suddenly you see where they are heading.

On another note, a posting from some fella a LONG time ago said that Apple's plan was to drive their laptop minaturization DOWN and iPod capabilities/power UP.

Wireless iPods. Integrated screen-cams. iPhone rumors.

It's like things are all starting to come into focus now.
post #14 of 18
Display and video input in one...

Ah, Knowledge Navigator, we're so *close* now.




For those of you who didn't follow Apple's every move in the 90s, there was a tech 'demo' (ie, fake product idea) done as a couple of movies. Knowledge Navigator was the name. It used handwriting recognition, speech recognition, and no small amount of AI to be your personal assistant, in a tablet/folding screen that would take a keyboard and mouse for desktop use. One feature was that you could place a piece of paper on the screen, and it would scan it.
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post #15 of 18
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Originally posted by Kickaha
Display and video input in one...

Ah, Knowledge Navigator, we're so *close* now.




For those of you who didn't follow Apple's every move in the 90s, there was a tech 'demo' (ie, fake product idea) done as a couple of movies. Knowledge Navigator was the name. It used handwriting recognition, speech recognition, and no small amount of AI to be your personal assistant, in a tablet/folding screen that would take a keyboard and mouse for desktop use. One feature was that you could place a piece of paper on the screen, and it would scan it.

I remember that movie well. I loved the fact that he kept putting off his mother in it.

Anyways, you are so right about that. The idea that the computer is nothing more than a window and assistant in everything you do.... That is good stuff.

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post #16 of 18
Oh so close!!






Here is the screen is the OCR movie of Knowledge Navigator:

http://homepage.mac.com/ericestrada/...Theater56.html


also: take a look at another obscure Apple promo from the 1980's

it takes a while to load but it is very interesting.

http://astrange.ithinksw.net/sa/shii/Future_Shock.mov
post #17 of 18
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Originally posted by Ireland
You read DIGG too?
In about say 15 or 17 years time, this will be completely normal within video calls! (cell and comp)

I read digg sometimes, I didn't see that kind of article though. Just seems particularly obvious to me.
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Originally posted by TednDi
Oh so close!!


God, I just love the mid-80s suckitude of that ID.

It's got FINS for crissake.
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