Interview with Gary DeMar
This guy is pretty out there. In the interview (link above, quote below):
See this link also
DeMar is a leading promoter of an extremist theology called Christian Reconstructionism, also known as Theocratic Dominionism, which, according to journalist and author Frederick Clarkson, "argues that the Bible is to be the governing text for all areas of life -- such as government, education, law, and the arts, not merely 'social' or 'moral' issues like pornography, homosexuality, and abortion."
In his essay, "Theocratic Dominionism Gains Influence," Clarkson stated that under a Christian Reconstructionist government, "[w]omen would be generally relegated to hearth and home. Insufficiently Christian men would be denied citizenship, perhaps executed. So severe is this theocracy that it would extend capital punishment beyond such crimes as kidnapping, rape, and murder to include, among other things, blasphemy, heresy, adultery, and homosexuality."
As Americans United for Separation of Church and State documented, DeMar wrote in his book, Ruler of the Nations: Biblical Principles for Government (Dominion Press, 1987): "The law that requires the death penalty for homosexual acts effectually drives the perversion of homosexuality back into the closet." DeMar added: "The long term goal [is] the execution of abortionists and parents who hire them. If we argue that abortion is murder, then we must call for the death penalty."
DeMar further articulated his views during an exchange on an Atlanta radio show in 1991 with liberal Christian activist Skipp Porteous and host Paul Gonzalez:
DeMAR: The definition of Christian Reconstruction is simply this: The Bible applies to every facet of life. That means not just the judicial aspects of life, such as civil government, church government, but business, economics -- every facet of society. The Bible has something to say about each area. For example, on homosexuals: We do not believe that homosexuals ought to be executed. The Bible doesn't say that homosexuals ought to be executed. What it says is this: If two men lie together like man and woman, they are to be put to death.
PORTEOUS: What the hell do you think that is?
DeMAR: Well, wait a minute. If a guy comes up to me and he says, "I'm a homosexual," that doesn't mean he's to be executed. If you understand the Scriptures, it says very clearly: If a man comes up to you and says, "I've murdered somebody," that doesn't mean that person ought to be executed.
GONZALES: Oh, so what you are saying, Gary, is, if you catch homosexuals in the act, then the Bible says to execute them.
DeMAR: The Bible lays forth the severest penalty, which would be capital punishment for two men who publicly engage in sodomy.
DeMar continued by stating his nominal support for the death penalty for adulterers and abortion doctors:
GONZALES: If, indeed, the Reconstructionist movement ever made it in America, would you advocate these biblical principles being carried out: the execution of the adulterer, the abortionist, and the homosexual?
DeMAR: I'm saying that they could be implemented, yes.
There you go. Plain as the authoritarian mustache on Hitlers face. If he's saying that kind of stuff publicly
, his privately held vision is probably even more out there, and severe, if humanly possible. Gary DeMar is an extreme fundamentalist wacko who, given the power, aims to institute a Taliban-like society in the US.
Having just plowed through the entire thread, *shakes head sadly* it is most disturbing that some in here are apologists for fascism. It is even more disturbing that President Bush apparently apparently has shown support for this maniac who advocates the systematic capital elimination of those who fail to conform to carefully cherrypicked
parts of the Old Testament.
Like father, like son, and grandson (or, the acorn doesnt fall far from the oak tree): Bush's Granddad, Prescott Bush was pretty sympathetic to the ideals of the German Nazi Party. Not only was he busted twice under the Trading with the Enemy Act for doing deals with Nazi German corporations
but also was one of the prime movers in the Eugenics Movement in America
from which the Nazi leader drew "inspiration" for his perverted "Master Race" ideology.
[rant]There are very uncomfortable parallels between the Gary DeMar etc brand of perverted "Christianity", and the ethnic cleansing/massmurder/eugenics activities favored by some of the sickest examples of humanity that have fouled this planet. Yes, one may retort, this will never happen here. We are a civilized nation, protected by the Constitution, a system of laws, checks and balances and the Bill of Rights. But as we speak, these are being subtly and systematically dismantled, using 9-11 as a "justification". What will it take for the likes of Gary deMar and the extreme right wing religious to gain a far stronger foothold? Another major attack in America (blamed on Muslims/Iran) with an obedient cowardly media in tow, would probably see the dismantling of the US Constitution
clearing the way for the setting up of the type of "end times" society that the hard right "Christian" religious nutjobs are after. George Bush has even publicly stated: "Iran will be my legacy".
Bring em on! (as in the return of the Pink Triangle, martial law and the Rapture perhaps?) [/end rant]