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post #41 of 96
5/16/06 at 11:20am
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Originally posted by sandau
the statement "MacBooks available at most Apple stores" might be true, but the Flagship store in Phoenix at the Apple Biltmore has ZERO stock and no idea when they will get any.

Ordering from within the store is according to the apple geek priority but my status is showing (stock 1099 model):

Estimated Ship Date
May 23, 2006 \t
Estimated Arrival Date
May 26, 2006

Update:
I wasn't happy with that order status so I called to cancel the order, the nice lady at Apple offered $50 off and overnight shipping!! I kept it, its a good deal.
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post #42 of 96
5/16/06 at 11:20am
Without seeing one of these in person, I can only guess that the speakers are in the same poition as on previous iBooks: they aim out the BACK of the case, but with the screen opened, the sound is reflected forward. Has anyone seen these in person and can verify?
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post #43 of 96
5/16/06 at 11:21am
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Originally posted by crees!
Originally posted by concentricity
Ok, here are my questions about the new MacBooks

1) How is the keyboard? Looks okay to me but lets ask. "Hey keyboard! How are you? - Fine Steve, just fine!"
1a) Does the keyboard flip up, or is it "integrated" into the top? Flip? Did we just join the circus? Doesn't look like it and it's not stated anywhere that it does.
2) Where are the speakers? In there, somewhere.
3) Where are the RAM slots? I'm sure there inside somewhere too.
4) How bad is the glare off the display? I dunno. Go check one out.
5) Why is the Black model $200 more? (the bump from 60GB to 80GB certainly doesn't justify it) Just because it's cool and that is only why. Marketing my friend, marketing.

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post #44 of 96
5/16/06 at 11:32am
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Originally posted by CosmoNut
What a worthless post. Go away.

This, on the other hand, was constructive.
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post #45 of 96
5/16/06 at 11:44am
the tech specs claim "intergrated stereo speakers" but i dont see any?
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post #46 of 96
5/16/06 at 11:45am
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Originally posted by clonenode
Without seeing one of these in person, I can only guess that the speakers are in the same poition as on previous iBooks: they aim out the BACK of the case, but with the screen opened, the sound is reflected forward. Has anyone seen these in person and can verify?

The shit they think up is ingenious I never had an iBook and never knew that

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post #47 of 96
5/16/06 at 12:00pm
if the speakers are on the "back" of the "base" of the computer, couldn't they not be larger that about half an inch in diameter? and wouldnt the hinges be in the way?
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post #48 of 96
5/16/06 at 12:05pm
Did the later revision iBooks have a keyboard that flipped out? I thought it didn't. At any rate by the looks of this, I'm %99 sure the MacBook doesn't have one, because there's no latches for it. And the RAM slots I'm assuming are most likely under the battery.
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post #49 of 96
5/16/06 at 12:07pm
I'm also guessing the the magnetic latch is pretty strong judging by the strength of the mag safe adapter on the MacBook Pro, which is pretty good.
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post #50 of 96
5/16/06 at 12:14pm
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Originally posted by Messiah
Anybody know if it can be used in lid-closed mode (like the 12" PB)?

Yes, they can. After looking at Apple's notebook comparison chart you will see there is less of a reason to get a MacBook Pro now than there ever was.
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post #51 of 96
5/16/06 at 12:18pm
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Originally posted by DeaPeaJay
Did the later revision iBooks have a keyboard that flipped out? I thought it didn't. At any rate by the looks of this, I'm %99 sure the MacBook doesn't have one, because there's no latches for it. And the RAM slots I'm assuming are most likely under the battery.

It does flip out to add RAM on the iBooks. The 12" PowerBook didn't though. As much as I like the iBook keyboard, the ones on the PowerBook were better, as someone else mentioned.
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post #52 of 96
5/16/06 at 12:21pm
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Originally posted by cactus
if the speakers are on the "back" of the "base" of the computer, couldn't they not be larger that about half an inch in diameter? and wouldnt the hinges be in the way?

No, I'm sure the speakers are horizontal with a "wave tube" out the back
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post #53 of 96
5/16/06 at 12:34pm
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Originally posted by troberts
Yes, they can. After looking at Apple's notebook comparison chart you will see there is less of a reason to get a MacBook Pro now than there ever was.

Not really. If you use FCP or Aperature (pro apps) you will have to have a MBP. They require dedicated graphics. I'll hazard to guess that when CS3 is released this will require dedicated graphics as well. So if you use pro apps you will need a pro laptop. Otherwise the Macbooks are a great value for the everday user.
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post #54 of 96
5/16/06 at 1:07pm
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Originally posted by backtomac
I'll hazard to guess that when CS3 is released this will require dedicated graphics as well.

Why? That's a 2D software package and integrated works fine for that. The integrated graphics also support Core Image so that's not an issue either. In fact, when CS3 is released it should absolutely scream on the MacBooks compared to how it runs on the iBooks and PowerBook 12" that are being replaced.
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post #55 of 96
5/16/06 at 1:14pm
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Originally posted by Bancho
Why? That's a 2D software package and integrated works fine for that. The integrated graphics also support Core Image so that's not an issue either. In fact, when CS3 is released it should absolutely scream on the MacBooks compared to how it runs on the iBooks and PowerBook 12" that are being replaced.

Maybe it won't require a video card. Aperature does require a video card however so perhaps if CS3 adds features it will need dedicated graphics as well. My point is though that the pro apps will by and large push those users into MBPs and not Macbooks.
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post #56 of 96
5/16/06 at 1:21pm
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Originally posted by Ireland
No, matte. Which looks better

You forgot to mention that it looks better IYHO -
IMHO, glossy would have looked awesome. Should have matched the black iPods
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post #57 of 96
5/16/06 at 1:22pm
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Originally posted by backtomac
Maybe it won't require a video card. Aperature does require a video card however so perhaps if CS3 adds features it will need dedicated graphics as well. My point is though that the pro apps will by and large push those users into MBPs and not Macbooks.

The main page has Aperture on the MacBook screen, so either apple is confused, or the integrated graphics will run Aperture just fine

Edit: although, the aperture graphic card specs on the Apple store say otherwise,

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post #58 of 96
5/16/06 at 1:22pm
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Originally posted by troberts
Yes, they can. After looking at Apple's notebook comparison chart you will see there is less of a reason to get a MacBook Pro now than there ever was.

True, but the integrated graphics is one big reason
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post #59 of 96
5/16/06 at 2:09pm
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Originally posted by DeaPeaJay
The main page has Aperture on the MacBook screen, so either apple is confused, or the integrated graphics will run Aperture just fine

Edit: although, the aperture graphic card specs on the Apple store say otherwise,

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post #60 of 96
5/16/06 at 2:16pm
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Originally posted by Bancho
The iBook keyboard had to be flipped up/out to install airport/memory while the 12" PowerBook was not. The 12" PowerBook keyboard had a superior feel to the iBook keyboard.

Good point.
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post #61 of 96
5/16/06 at 2:26pm
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am i the only one bothered by the typeface apple started using on the keyboards on the laptops these days? i am not a touch-typist... i suppose i am somewhere between hunt-n-peck and touch, just out of constant typing and general familiarity. so this means i glance down fairly often to get myself oriented while typing. i just find the typeface throws me off terribly. especially how the "W" and "M" are essentially flipped versions of each other.

anyway, it's a minor gripe, but it's been bugging me for a while. i guess i just don't see why they would make a distinction between keyboards for the desktop and laptop. any industrial designers around here want to hazard a guess? is there a solid human-interface reason for it, or just a "steve likes the typeface 'futura rounded' on his laptops" reason?
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post #62 of 96
5/16/06 at 3:33pm
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Originally posted by backtomac
Not really. If you use FCP or Aperature (pro apps) you will have to have a MBP. They require dedicated graphics. I'll hazard to guess that when CS3 is released this will require dedicated graphics as well. So if you use pro apps you will need a pro laptop. Otherwise the Macbooks are a great value for the everday user.

I've read elsewhere reports of people running Aperture and FCP already. Not officially supported, but reportedly they run fine. I'd be VERY surprised if CS3 needed a dedicated graphics chip. Worst case, there might be a couple plugins that run faster with it.
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post #63 of 96
5/16/06 at 4:19pm
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Originally posted by concentricity
just because I've seen it a couple of times already, it's matte, not matt. I normally don't bother with trivial mispellings or usage issues, but it will only make things confusing if people think you're responding to someone named Matt...

you are wrong MATT is usually used in respect of paint as in a MATT finnish, as opposed to a GLOSS finnish.

MATTE is something you might use in photoshop.

trust me i've done enough painting to know im right.

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post #64 of 96
5/16/06 at 4:27pm
Does anyone know definitatively whether or not the white MabBook is in "matte" white or a glossy finish?
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post #65 of 96
5/16/06 at 5:13pm
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Originally posted by minderbinder
I've read elsewhere reports of people running Aperture and FCP already. Not officially supported, but reportedly they run fine. I'd be VERY surprised if CS3 needed a dedicated graphics chip. Worst case, there might be a couple plugins that run faster with it.

We'll just have to wait and see how things shake out after testing. I'm sure Macworld, Ars and Anand will run these through the ringer and we'll find out what they are capable of.
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post #66 of 96
5/16/06 at 5:17pm
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Originally posted by Trendannoyer
you are wrong MATT is usually used in respect of paint as in a MATT finnish, as opposed to a GLOSS finnish.

MATTE is something you might use in photoshop.

trust me i've done enough painting to know im right.

Rod

Well, you are right and wrong at the same time.

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post #67 of 96
5/16/06 at 5:39pm
ok, so what is that little thing next to the IR port? i am assuming it is the sleep light unless the sleep light is under the surface like the ibooks were. seems like an odd place for it, but whatever. any other ideas. maybe a lock port, but again, very odd/bad place for that.
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post #68 of 96
5/16/06 at 6:29pm
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so about this magnetic closure thing... does that mean the lid closes and holds together like a refrigerator door? and, i know some people have made mention of this before, but what is UP with apple going magnet-happy all over the place? magnets to hold the lid down. magnets to hold the remote on the case. magnets to hold the power cable in place.

isn't anyone a wee bit concerned about data loss? or accidentally leaving a credit card on the laptop during a transaction? or am i just being overly paranoid?
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post #69 of 96
5/16/06 at 6:42pm
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Originally posted by lhvide
You forgot to mention that it looks better IYHO -
IMHO, glossy would have looked awesome. Should have matched the black iPods

I did your right about that, but you must have forget about scratches did you?

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post #70 of 96
5/16/06 at 6:52pm
is it just me or does the new black macbook kind of look like a pc in the first picture? the keys kind of make the black model look like a toy computer.

i'll have to go look in person - the pictures might not do it justice (though they are nice shots)
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post #71 of 96
5/16/06 at 11:16pm
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Originally posted by Messiah
Anybody know if it can be used in lid-closed mode (like the 12" PB)?

The comparison chart of all the macbooks says it can.. linky somewhere on the apple page..
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post #72 of 96
5/17/06 at 1:52am
yah, what's the bar on the left of the IR sensor? an LED?

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post #73 of 96
5/17/06 at 2:04am
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post #74 of 96
5/17/06 at 3:03am
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The sleep light is no longer hidden? Very un-Apple.
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post #75 of 96
5/17/06 at 3:07am
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Originally posted by iCollegeBook
Does anyone know definitatively whether or not the white MabBook is in "matte" white or a glossy finish?

My white MacBook is glossy
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post #76 of 96
5/17/06 at 4:12am
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Originally posted by Mr. Dirk
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Oh.. ha ha so it is
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post #77 of 96
5/17/06 at 5:34am
Maybe it's just me but the black model it's cool that they have black but it's just not moving me. It's just not doing it for me I like the white MacBooks. Teh Sexy.
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post #78 of 96
5/17/06 at 6:43am
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Originally posted by rok
so about this magnetic closure thing... does that mean the lid closes and holds together like a refrigerator door?

Yes.

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what is UP with apple going magnet-happy all over the place? magnets to hold the lid down. magnets to hold the remote on the case. magnets to hold the power cable in place.

Fewer "moving" parts? More elegant?
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post #79 of 96
5/17/06 at 7:50am
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Fewer "moving" parts? More elegant?

the moving parts, i'll grant you. elegance, though, is a bit subjective. like, for me, elegance is simply the perfect solution to a problem, and that can take many forms. if it actually requires a visible latch or mechanism, so be it, so long as it does the job perfectly. that's not to say some style can't figure into it.like, my wife's pismo has a plastic latch at the front of the lid, and while it is a mechanical solution, it works great, and the style they molded it into is an elegant addition to the overall unit. but hey, i'll give 'em credit for trying something new. and maybe once i work with it for a while, i'll go "hey, this IS a great idea. why didn't they do it sooner?"
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post #80 of 96
5/17/06 at 8:08am
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Originally posted by rok
the moving parts, i'll grant you. elegance, though, is a bit subjective. like, for me, elegance is simply the perfect solution to a problem, and that can take many forms. if it actually requires a visible latch or mechanism, so be it, so long as it does the job perfectly. that's not to say some style can't figure into it.like, my wife's pismo has a plastic latch at the front of the lid, and while it is a mechanical solution, it works great, and the style they molded it into is an elegant addition to the overall unit. but hey, i'll give 'em credit for trying something new. and maybe once i work with it for a while, i'll go "hey, this IS a great idea. why didn't they do it sooner?"

I'll say the magnet is a great solution, from the bit I've used it. It's fundamentally unbreakable.
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