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Well, Arsenal got their asses handed down to them. Barça is the new Europan King. Henry was almost dead the entire game, and Ronaldinho wasn't any better either. The beauty of Barça, it seems, is that it's a team and it can play good even if its star player chokes.

Good job Barça!

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post #2 of 20
the beauty of Barca is that they can afford to buy off the ref.
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Originally posted by Gene Clean
Well, Arsenal got their asses handed down to them.

Until the halfway point of the second half Arsenal looked the team more likely to score(due to Barça's inefectiveness).

In fact Henry had a one on one with Valdes and mishit the ball. That would've been 2-0 Arsenal. I wouldn't describe a team that lost because of two late goals after playing 72 minutes with only 10 men as having their "asses handed to them".

Man of the match? The referee....and not because he red-carded Lehmann. Although I'm a Reds fan, props to Arsenal for a great CL run and final, and of course to Barça. In my view, Barça edges Arsenal slightly as the best team throught the competition.

The King is dead (Liverpool), long live the King.

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Originally posted by Gilsch
In fact Henry had a one on one with Valdes and mishit the ball. That would've been 2-0 Arsenal. I wouldn't describe a team that lost because of two late goals after playing 72 minutes with only 10 men as having their "asses handed to them".

Well, I'm a little biased so... take that with a grain of salt, but Barçaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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I can't understand all this referee stuff - imo, it is an affliction caught from that horrendous trench-coat wearer who is without doubt the worst loser (in all respects) to disgrace the EPL.

I mean what happened to dignity in defeat - I am shocked at Henry and Wenger actually in their post-match interviews. They are far better than that.

Having said that, the Eto'o goal was marginal (and not offside imo) bit because it was marginal how can it be bias? It happens every week in La Liga and the Premiership.

Can't see any other dodgy decisions really. Maybe the second goal was lucky but Arsenal had their chances and 1 goal was never going to be enough. At least it didn't go to penalties.

And another thing: no way should Henry go to Barça. We don't need him and besides it would mean selling Eto'o (nooooooooo!!!!).

Shame about the sending off though - could have been a classic.
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Who's the trench-coat wearer, Mourinho?
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Who's the trench-coat wearer, Mourinho?

That's him.
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Well, Arsenal got their asses handed down to them.

Did you see the game? The first 17:15 minutes watched like Arsenal v. Sunderland. Arsenal owned most of the game if you consider they were at ten men. Ronaldinho was shut down like a bitch.

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Although I'm a Reds fan, props to Arsenal for a great CL run and final, and of course to Barça. In my view, Barça edges Arsenal slightly as the best team throught the competition.

Yes, I would have to agree that there nothing at all improper or unusual about Barcelona winning. Not like last year, when that clumsy, has-been team managed to win. Fortunately, I live far enough away from Liverpool that I don't have to worry too much about making comments like that.

P.S. Wouldn't it be great if Gerrard went to United?
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Originally posted by segovius
That's him.

dont you appreciate Mourinho just for his sheer comical value? The guy is genius
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dont you appreciate Mourinho just for his sheer comical value? The guy is genius

On that level yes, of course. Sheer genius.

It's in terms of football that I dislike his methods.
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Btw - what about Henry? I think he won't come here now. Real Madrid maybe?

Re the Chavs.....err....Mourinho's team, I absolutely believe they will implode now.

There are already mutterings on the bench due to the policy of keeping big-name layers for a 'back-up' team or as mere squad members. Now with Ballack and probably Schevchenko (the first of these a monster ego and the second probably not suited to the Premiership) arriving there is no way Mou is going to keep all those egos happy when they are bench-warming for games in a row. Especially as he wants it that way as his is the only ego he really wants in the spotlight 24/7.

I predict serious unrest in the dressing room. My prediction for the season is:

1) Man United
2) Arsenal
3) Blackburn
4) Chelsea
5) Liverpool

And another thing, if Chelsea go out of the Champions League again early - and they will - then Mourinho will be kicked into touch by Abramovich or will jump before.
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Originally posted by segovius
There are already mutterings on the bench due to the policy of keeping big-name layers for a 'back-up' team or as mere squad members. Now with Ballack and probably Schevchenko (the first of these a monster ego and the second probably not suited to the Premiership)

I think the underperformance this season is why there's the big shakeup. We'll see how it goes. Ballack's playing style will definitely fit in. Shevchenko is supposedly Abramovich's personal friend, which is why I'm skeptical about him wanting to go to Chelsea.

If he does go, I think he'll score 30+ goals. Ronaldinho is amazing to watch because he does so much with the ball. Henry has speed and grace. It's harder to put a finger on why Shevchenko is so effective, because he doesn't often amaze people with displays of skill. But currently there is no one better at going straight to goal -- a task that softee officiating has discouraged for years now. Only Ronaldo compares at this, and Ronaldo can't shoot as well. Chelsea know that they need a finishing juggernaut if they want to win the treble (which they do). It makes sense to try for Shevchenko.
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post #13 of 20
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Originally posted by Splinemodel
Not like last year, when that clumsy, has-been team managed to win.

The best team doesn't always win. Otherwise Brasil would have 10 World Cups. And that "has-been" team you were referring to, has won:

1 Champions/European Cup
1 UEFA Cup,
2 European Super Cups
2 FA Cups,
2 League Cups,
1 Charity Shield,


........................since 2000. Enlighten us as to how your team compares to that?
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P.S. Wouldn't it be great if Gerrard went to United?

Heresy!! Now you've done it. I'm forwarding your info. to the US Liverpool supporters assoc. I'm sure we have people down in Florida.
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Originally posted by segovius
I can't understand all this referee stuff - imo, it is an affliction caught from that horrendous trench-coat wearer who is without doubt the worst loser (in all respects) to disgrace the EPL.

I have a severe dislike for MAUREENho. He's a disgrace to managers all over.

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Can't see any other dodgy decisions really. Maybe the second goal was lucky but Arsenal had their chances and 1 goal was never going to be enough. At least it didn't go to penalties.

I saw many dodgy decisions. Albeit small ones...although they could have resulted in a Barça player getting his second yellow. Barça deserved at least 2 more yellow cards. The time added before the half was too much and the time added in the second half was nothing when you consider all the substitutions and the Barça second goal celebration which went on for over a minute. Not that it would've mattered....but still, there was a disparity there.

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Shame about the sending off though - could have been a classic.

The ref is now saying he wishes he hadn't been so hasty to show the red card.
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I'm forwarding your info. to the US Liverpool supporters assoc. I'm sure we have people down in Florida.

The has-been part wasn't entirely serious. I just know what gets under the skin of Liverpool supporters, since I've known some of them. As an American, the frenzy of the English in supporting their clubs is a little over my head, but it seems like fun (at least aside from the screwdrivers & utility knives). When it comes to English football I support Man City because of Claudio Reyna, but they're not really a contender.
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[B]Did you see the game? The first 17:15 minutes watched like Arsenal v. Sunderland. Arsenal owned most of the game if you consider they were at ten men. Ronaldinho was shut down like a bitch.

I think you missed the part where I said that I am biased toward Barcelona, so I used big words to describe Arsenal's loss.
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post #17 of 20
Perhaps, but there's a difference between bias and inaccuracy.
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But Mourinho is a fantastic manager. Regardless of his personality, he left Porto champions, came to London and immediately did the same with Chelsea. He's gifted tactically and all his players love him. I don't know why, but they do.

It's OK to hate Chelsea, and naturally I do, but their manager's great. Like Manchester United, who it's also perfectly natural to detest. Their manager's good too, if mean-spirited, bad mannered and totally graceless as a human being.

Liverpool are going to win the Premiership next season and if they don't it'll be Arsenal. Gerrard is a better player than Rooney and Rafa Benitez is as good tactically as Mourinho and Ferguson and a decent human being to boot.

Unless of course Chelsea buy it again.
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But Mourinho is a fantastic manager. Regardless of his personality, he left Porto champions, came to London and immediately did the same with Chelsea.

It's OK to hate Chelsea, and naturally I do, but their manager's great. Like Manchester United, who it's also perfectly natural to detest. Their manager's good too, if mean-spirited, bad mannered and totally graceless as a human being.

Liverpool are going to win the Premiership next season; Gerrard is a better player than Rooney and Rafa Benitez is as good tactically as Mourinho and Ferguson and a decent human being to boot.

Unless of course Chelsea buy it again.

But is he though?

He left Portugal reeling from the 'Golden Whistle' scandal where 16 referees were arrested and over a hundred people questioned for match-fixing. I'm not saying Porto were implicated but there is no doubt match-fixing was rampant and the league was void imo.

With Chelsea I really think he has failed. With that kind of money and the ability to buy any player whatsoever and establish two world class teams as a squad then why can't he progress in the CL?

Agree about Benitez though and Gerrard is certainly better than Rooney. I still think that Mark Hughes and Blackburn are the one's to watch - Bellamy is on fire, though I have heard Benitez wants to sign him.
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Originally posted by Splinemodel
Perhaps, but there's a difference between bias and inaccuracy.

There's also a difference between a little friendly nab and inaccuracy. Also I'm not the object of discussion here.
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