[quote]OK, we need to define easier. Let's say we have artwork with images (bitmaps) in. Fairly common, right? In Freehand or Illustrator, these programs attempt to EMBED the images into the doc. So if your doing a reasonable size newsletter, brochure etc, you are going to have a fair few images, yes? What you end up with is a MASSIVE file. <hr></blockquote>
true with older versions of illustrator ( up until version 10), but freehand has had the option of linking to images (which is by default i believe) for years now. so there is no reason why you have to embed any image. no problems mate.
[quote]Sorry, I have 15 years experience in repro. Here's the deal and learn. Freehand, and to a lesser extent Illustrator, produce postscript files which the vast majority of RIPs on printers can't handle - all the nice transparency stuff etc. So to print it, you have to save the file as an EPS, normally version 8 unless it's a very new RIP. However, let's say we have made a 24 page doc in Freehand - what have repro got to do - make 24 EPS FILES !!! Then drop them into Quark. Kind of spoils the point of doing it in Freehand ?<hr></blockquote>
well, it only took me a year to realize the truth that your having such a hard time trying to see. this guy is not a repro guy. he does not care how the guys on the production end handle his job for the most part. he could care less what kind of rip it is being run on or what their work flow is. why should he, he is a designer. all he need to concern himself with is when he submits a job, it goes through and comes out the other end on time, on budget, and right.
i've worked for and with some of the best print and prepress companies in the country an have never had any hassles from them in regards to large freehand projects at any level. does it ever cost more money to do a freehand job? no. but who gives a $hit. he's not doing that scope of work any way. we are talking about fricking newsletters for god sake. not 20 + page brochures. why can't you see this. is quark a superior page layout program? yes. does it really matter in this case? no. let's move on.
oh yeah, before i forget, as far a transparency goes, no app really does it that well, except photoshop. illustrator's will give a rip opperator nightmares. indesign's is just as buggy, but freehands is not to bad and has been fairly usable for years. does that mean i would use it. no, there are better ways to do it, but it can be done if you know what the hell your doing.
[quote]That's why pros do small stuff in vector programs, and layout in Quark.<hr></blockquote>
for the most part your right, but as i've said in past posts i've known many seasoned top notch designers that not know there $hit and using freehand almost exclusively.
[quote]I think if I had to have 1 PROGRAM, Quark would be my choice. <hr></blockquote>
good for you, but then again your a repro guy, not a designer. quark is way to limited to be used for design work exclusively. any designer worth a damn would go out of their fricking minds using only quark.