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post #41 of 191
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Originally posted by sammi jo
The first standard response of BushCorp drones is to tell the opposition to shut up. The follow up is name-calling. On occasions it happens in reverse.

And you'll continue to claim that Ohio was stolen despite the margin being much closer in PA. Doesn't work the same when it's a blue state, does it?
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post #42 of 191
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Originally posted by Northgate
Anybody who doesn't think that an election can be rigged or stolen within the United States is either completely naive or in a deep state of denial.

Anyone who thinks that strawmen tactics are not tolerated on AI is either completely naive or in a deep state of denial.
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post #43 of 191
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Originally posted by Northgate
Dean had the young vote in Iowa, too. And the little bastards let us down, again.

I don't EVER want to hear another Democrat running for office talk about how the young people are going be the key to their success. Young people talk a good game. But in the end going to the polls and actually pulling the lever is a major pain in the ass when playing PlayStation2 is far more entertaining.

:(Little bastards?)

The little bastards can feel your love...
... and run for their lives.

Totally understandable, I might add.

V/R,

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post #44 of 191
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Originally posted by SDW2001
And you'll continue to claim that Ohio was stolen despite the margin being much closer in PA. Doesn't work the same when it's a blue state, does it?

I don't think anyone is claiming Ohio was stolen because the margin was closer...
post #45 of 191
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Originally posted by SDW2001
Anyone who thinks that strawmen tactics are not tolerated on AI is either completely naive or in a deep state of denial.


Now have a nice shiney mirror pointed at yourself when you say that SDW.
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post #46 of 191
There's something I like about Gore. He seems more like a scientist than a politician. Or wait, maybe I mean he just seems more like a reasonable person than a politician. Mostly it's because this whole environment thing is probably one of the MOST important issues and yet it's always shoved down to the friggin bottom of the list, under a bunch of dung like "gay marriage yadayada" and "stem cell research blah blah" and "gun control blah blah". Are friggin kidding me. Like those matter as much as a single environmental issue. People's lives are at stake.

I did a project analyzing sea level rise with GIS. Long and short? We're fucked. If you live in FL or LA for example... ouch. Your kids are gonna hate you. My idea was that FEMA should create flood maps (FIRMs) predicting sea level rise using GIS and LIDAR, since current maps can be way out of date and in addition even if they are up to date, become out of date again quickly. And it doesn't allow the public to make smart, sustainable decisions by not knowing what the future will look like. The technology to do this is there. The money is not. Hey maybe we won't even have a FEMA. What a fucking disaster. I can't wait to see An Inconvenient Truth. I'm tell you people, I was at a state Senate Subcommittee hearing on whether to restructure the Coastal Resources Management Council in RI, and these politicians started getting nervous about their mansions next to their beaches when this topic came up, but I could tell they just did not take this shit seriously. Some evacuation routes in RI point you north for a few miles, and then back south again once you go north, for example. Well, RI has an odd problem of not having signs on their roads anyway... But I think that's a case in point.

Gore would put the environment back at the top. He's got my vote. And that should mean he has yours if you give a fuck about your kids, or their kids. Or maybe even your golden years.

That's always in my mind been the difference between conservatives and liberals: Liberals think long term, and care about other people. Conservatives think in matters of months or years, unless it's their personal wealth, and they don't care about anyone but themselves. Hell not even their parents potentially on prescriptions or healthcare services, or their kids, who will be hit by more hurricanes, drink more arsenic, eat more mercury, and breathe in more ozone. I mean that's just...mean. To a certain degree I think we are bound to at least maintain the level of the environment for future generations. Or our species will kill itself.
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post #47 of 191
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Originally posted by Aquatic
Liberals think long term, and care about other people. Conservatives think in matters of months or years, unless it's their personal wealth, and they don't care about anyone but themselves.

Did you write that with a stright face?
post #48 of 191
Obviously only he's been paying attention to the bad conservatives. It should have read: "...unless it's their personal wealth, their sexual deviousness, and they don't care about anyone but themselves."

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was charged with molesting his 9-year old step-daughter after including her in an anti-Gore television commercial.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.
Republican serial killer Ted Bundy was hired by the Republican Party
Republican activist Matthew Glavin, who preached family values, was caught masturbating in public and fondling an undercover park ranger
Republican Party Chairman Sam Walls, who is married, was urged to drop his candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up in women's clothing
Republican Congressman Edward Schrock resigned from Congress after he was caught searching for sex on a gay telephone service
Republican Mayor Jim West Republican voter Timothy McVeigh bombed Oklahoma City championed an anti-gay agenda, but was later found to be gay himself
Republican preacher Jimmy Swaggart preached fidelity, but cheated on his wife with a prostitute
Republican Congressman Bob Livingston was about to vote for impeaching President Clinton for sexual improprieties until it was disclosed he was an adulterer
Republican Congressman Henry Hyde denounced President Clinton's extramarital affair, but was later found to be an adulterer himself
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren,
has told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girl.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican Mayor John Gosek, 58, of 275 West 7th Street, Oswego, was arrested for the federal offense of "using a facility in inte-state commerce (a telephone) to knowingly attempt to persuade, induce, entice, and coerce an individual under the age of 18 years to engage in sexual activity for which he could be charged with criminal offenses, that is, rape in the third degree and criminal sexual act in the third degree" in violation of the New York State Penal Code.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks, an advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican St. Louis Election Board official Kevin Coan was arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative, was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15 year old girl.
Republican legislator, Richard Gardner, a Nevada state representative, admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Of course it's no contest! How could he even get a fair fight against those activist judges!
Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. - That's the culture of life we all know and love!
Defense contractor, Mitchell Wade, admitted that he paid California Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (republican) more than $1 million in bribes in exchange for millions more in government contracts.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his 9 yr old daughter.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano serving a 37-year sentence for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge sentenced to 3 years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. I'm sure he had a good explanation.
Republican racist pedophile and esteemed US Senator Strom Thurmond fathered a chiled with a 15-year old black girl.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to sexual relations with a juvenile. Praise George!
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having inappropriate relations with a 13-year-old girl.
Republican activist Lawrence E King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens found guilty of sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on 6counts of child sex crimes.
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Look, he didn't actually do anything. He only TRIED! You can't fault a republican for trying!
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. Prai$e the lord!
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28. I love this country!
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Now I'm sure he can give us a good explanation for this.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Obviously a liberal conspiracy!
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. He was obviously trying to help this woman! Do you liberals no shame!Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Look! It was his own son. Geez you liberals are SICK!
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. He was trying to explain to her what NOT to do when in a difficult situation!
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl. She could have turned away.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her. Liberal jury of course.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Now how could anyone rape their daughter 6 times! Can you say Liberal psycologist!
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. Obviously set up by a liberal computer hacker. These hackers no NO SHAME!
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). You see, actually he happened to be changing out of his bathing suit when these kids walked by.
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. He pleaded guilty only to keep his family out of the liberal media's spotlight.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl. She was eighTEEN. That's still a teenager!
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. He only had their interests in mind. Why don't you liberals see that!
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. No comment.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women. Philanthrapy at it's finest!
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. That boy was a liberal trying to corrupt his mind. He did the right thing.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. He did the honorable thing and did his time.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Lies. Lies! All liberal lies!
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Obviously set up by that liberal media!
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Who said republicans were sexist!
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison. If you do the crime, you do the time + 1.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. He just wanted to keep an eye out for those girls...and his daughter. He even had pictures to prove it!
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. He LOVED that girl.
Republican anti-abortion activist Neal Horsley admitted to having sex with a mule.
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Oh come on, it's a free country.
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Maybe I should cut that down... it's too big to be a sig too...
post #51 of 191
Outsider - you're the man!
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These days whenever I think about politics it's from the perspective of the environment, because that is my career and I'm so immersed in it. From many angles though I really think that makes sense of the whole situation. Conservatives really DO think in the short term, and liberals in the long term. Perhaps too long. Perhaps conservatives are too short-sighted. Is one wrong? Is the other wrong? I don't know. Just random thoughts... with a stright face.

Outsider that's...disturbing.
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post #53 of 191
Aquatic, I agree with pretty much everything you said except for the part where you delineated the difference between liberals and conservatives. Whether or not you agree with the Iraq war (I certainly don't), the very idea of establishing democracy in one Middle Eastern country in order to influence the rest to eventually follow their own path to democracy is very, very long term thinking.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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Did you write that with a stright face?


I can write it with a straight face also.
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post #55 of 191
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Originally posted by Aquatic
These days whenever I think about politics it's from the perspective of the environment, because that is my career and I'm so immersed in it. From many angles though I really think that makes sense of the whole situation. Conservatives really DO think in the short term, and liberals in the long term. Perhaps too long. Perhaps conservatives are too short-sighted. Is one wrong? Is the other wrong? I don't know. Just random thoughts... with a stright face.

Outsider that's...disturbing.

I don't think that's true at all. In fact, it almost seems the opposite is true. Liberals seem to demand immediate change to policy while conservatives seem to want to take a more moderated approach. Many conservatives believe, as I do, that with regard to energy policy we need a short term, mid term and long term strategy. The short term ensures availability of oil by doing more domestic and offshore exploration. The mid term involves transition fuels such as ethanol and reduced dependence on fossil fuels. The long term represents the near elimination of oil dependency, with domestic production making up for the what is still needed that technologies like hydrogen fuel cells cannot cover.
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post #56 of 191
Im not Liberal or Conservative but I would vote for Gore and really anyone opposed to the republicans these days. Republicans have shown they are the Prostitutes of Govt and for sale to anyone, the Chinaman, the Mexican, the UAE but the U.S. worker seems to be the last one they want to represent. Screw the Rebublicans and their F party. America booted the party out 50 years ago for the same kind of crap they are doing today.

Both parties are rotten, but the republicans seem to be the worst at the moment.
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post #57 of 191
Well just so you know, ethanol is a sham. Unsustainable. Completely a waste.
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post #58 of 191
Imagine if the federal government granted R&D funds to all the electric battery manufacturer's on the same level as NASA in the 1960's. Within 6-10 years we'd finally have battery capacity and longevity where it needs to be to sustain 400 mile car trips without charging.
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post #59 of 191
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Originally posted by Aquatic
Well just so you know, ethanol is a sham. Unsustainable. Completely a waste.

That's based on current farming that uses such obscene amounts of gasoline. Just so you know, ethanol's efficiency and sustainability is a hell of a lot more admirable than food: for food, roughly two dozen times the energy in oil are spent producing food.
post #60 of 191
Man, I hope George Bush forces a law that allows him a third term as President so I can sell the rights to this to the Democratic Party for a few million.

post #61 of 191
The next President will be a Republican. While the people are unhappy with Bush and the current Congress, the people still trust Republicans more than they trust Democrats. The Democrats have lost the faith of the people.
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post #62 of 191
You're saying that the party people associate with the president with one of the lowest approval ratings in history is in a better position in the minds of the American people than the Democrats?
post #63 of 191
The trick here is that in Moe's world, "the people" are understood to be "everybody who thinks like me".

"Liberals" aren't actually "people", and certainly not "the people". Liberals are alien invaders. "The people" sprout out of the rich loam of the ancestral homelands with an instinctive understanding of American values.

Liberals are shipped in on freighters steaming under foreign flags.
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post #64 of 191
Just a prediction. I wish that the Democrats would offer a viable alternative, but I doubt that they will.
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post #65 of 191
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Originally posted by southside grabowski
Just a prediction. I wish that the Democrats would offer a viable alternative, but I doubt that they will.

An alternative to massive deficit spending, tax cuts for the wealthy, bloody wars of choice based on lies, an endless series of wedge issues proffered up to the base in lieu of substantiative policy, the crippling of various federal agencies through relentless cronyism, ever increasing domestic surveillance, the complete abandonment of long standing international norms (and the attendant erosion of our prestige abroad), damaging national security for political gain, talking a lot about homeland security while defunding programs and adopting none of the recommendations of the 9/11 commission, allowing industry lobbyists to draft legislation outright and a policy apparatus based almost entirely on photo-ops and slur campaigns?

I cant imagine how.
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post #66 of 191
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Originally posted by addabox
I cant imagine how.

He didn't seem to be wondering how but rather if.
post #67 of 191
I'm not going to argue with you box. I'm not defending the Republicans. I am saying that the Democrats need a new formula to win. The Democrats were the working man's party. The working man tends to be socially conservative. Furthermore, more so each day the working man is being outsourced to India or China or Mexico or or or. If he is in the USA, there is a good chance that he is illegal and can't vote.
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post #68 of 191
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Originally posted by southside grabowski
I'm not going to argue with you box. I'm not defending the Republicans. I am saying that the Democrats need a new formula to win. The Democrats were the working man's party. The working man tends to be socially conservative. Furthermore, more so each day the working man is being outsourced to India or China or Mexico or or or. If he is in the USA, there is a good chance that he is illegal and can't vote.

You may not be defending the Republicans but you are repeating, indeed you are practically a poster boy for, a mantra that has been part of the Republican strategy for at least the last 40 years or so.

Democrats don't "share your values". Democrats are the party of Hanoi Jane and Barbara Streisand. Democrats want to put a black guy or a lesbian or some kind of hippie slacker into your job. Democrats are godless. Democrats are shrill. Democrats would immediately surrender in a shooting war, or defund the Pentagon to pay for forced abortions.

40 years of this bullshit, and a twisted alliance with "the working man" based on constant emphasis on wedge issues to drive anger and divisiveness. It's about the blacks. It's about the hippies. It's about immigrants. It's about queers. It's about abortion. It's about them. You are losing because of them.

Tax and spend. Flip-flopper. Cut and run. Blame America first. Fellow travelers. The silent majority and the nattering nabobs of negativism. Stabbed in the back. None dare call it treason.

And now you're worried that the Dems aren't "viable"? Now that the promise of right wing triumph turns out to be hollow? I mean, didn't you notice during the run-up to all Republican all the time America that there wasn't much of substance in there? That most of it was wedge issue electoral strategy? That the entire enterprise was based on establishing the entire Democratic party and "liberalism" in general as treasonous, weak, pandering and feckless.

Well, it worked pretty well. We got to the point where "liberal" was a term of sneering contemptuousness. Where a decorated war hero could be broadly vilified as a traitor and a coward.

Gee, I'm really sorry your guys turned out to be assholes, and they did so much damage to the country getting and keeping power that you don't like the lay of the land no more. Must suck, being you.

At any rate, there is quite a bit of new energy and blood over in liberal land. Solid ideas, solid candidates. The tentative party of "don't make waves", the inevitable consequence of 40 years of relentless demonization, is beginning to totter.

Of course, when we field actual liberals with actual ideas you'll immediately denounce them as "socialists" and "ultra-left loons". Guess you can't please everybody.
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post #69 of 191
Good to see that there are some passionate Americans left.
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post #70 of 191
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Originally posted by addabox
You may not be defending the Republicans but you are repeating, indeed you are practically a poster boy for, a mantra that has been part of the Republican strategy for at least the last 40 years or so.

Democrats don't "share your values". Democrats are the party of Hanoi Jane and Barbara Streisand. Democrats want to put a black guy or a lesbian or some kind of hippie slacker into your job. Democrats are godless. Democrats are shrill. Democrats would immediately surrender in a shooting war, or defund the Pentagon to pay for forced abortions.

40 years of this bullshit, and a twisted alliance with "the working man" based on constant emphasis on wedge issues to drive anger and divisiveness. It's about the blacks. It's about the hippies. It's about immigrants. It's about queers. It's about abortion. It's about them. You are losing because of them.

Tax and spend. Flip-flopper. Cut and run. Blame America first. Fellow travelers. The silent majority and the nattering nabobs of negativism. Stabbed in the back. None dare call it treason.

And now you're worried that the Dems aren't "viable"? Now that the promise of right wing triumph turns out to be hollow? I mean, didn't you notice during the run-up to all Republican all the time America that there wasn't much of substance in there? That most of it was wedge issue electoral strategy? That the entire enterprise was based on establishing the entire Democratic party and "liberalism" in general as treasonous, weak, pandering and feckless.

Well, it worked pretty well. We got to the point where "liberal" was a term of sneering contemptuousness. Where a decorated war hero could be broadly vilified as a traitor and a coward.

Gee, I'm really sorry your guys turned out to be assholes, and they did so much damage to the country getting and keeping power that you don't like the lay of the land no more. Must suck, being you.

At any rate, there is quite a bit of new energy and blood over in liberal land. Solid ideas, solid candidates. The tentative party of "don't make waves", the inevitable consequence of 40 years of relentless demonization, is beginning to totter.

Of course, when we field actual liberals with actual ideas you'll immediately denounce them as "socialists" and "ultra-left loons". Guess you can't please everybody.

AMEN!
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post #71 of 191
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Originally posted by southside grabowski
The next President will be a Republican. While the people are unhappy with Bush and the current Congress, the people still trust Republicans more than they trust Democrats. The Democrats have lost the faith of the people.

You really are moe aren't you? You know the guy who said the wire tapping privacy issue would come to nothing 6 months ago.


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post #72 of 191
I have never denied being Moe. Moe Luby in Texas at your service.
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post #73 of 191
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Originally posted by southside grabowski
I have never denied being Moe. Moe Luby in Texas at your service.


Then why the handle change?
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post #74 of 191
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Then why the handle change?

I believe one of his nom de plumes declared he would never post again on these forums.
post #75 of 191
Has anyone seen the Al Gore movie "Inconvenient Truth" yet? Apart from the title (which imho is lame), it's a good brief on the basics of global warming, quoting from many peer-reviewed studies. Question: Are there an equal number of reliable studies (or just one for that matter) which points to either (a) the absence of global warming, or (b) finds evidence of global warming but points towards causes other than human industrial activity?
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"We've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming". VP Cheney, 3/29/2006. Interview by Tony Snow
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post #76 of 191
Myspace bought out 6 theaters across the country for a free Friday night showing of the movie. I'm working, unfortunately.
post #77 of 191
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Has anyone seen the Al Gore movie "Inconvenient Truth" yet? Apart from the title (which imho is lame), it's a good brief on the basics of global warming, quoting from many peer-reviewed studies.

Here is a different perspective.
post #78 of 191
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Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
Here is a different perspective.

Of COURSE Canadians want the Earth to warm up. It's colder than a witch's teat up there.
post #79 of 191
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Originally posted by Outsider
Of COURSE Canadians want the Earth to warm up. It's colder than a witch's teat up there.

Well, I didn't claim it was unbiased.
post #80 of 191
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Here is a different perspective.

The author is a director of a lobbying and media relations firm. Colour me "skeptical"

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Tom Harris is mechanical engineer and Ottawa Director of High Park Group, a public affairs and public policy company.

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