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post #281 of 556
6/25/06 at 4:13am
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Originally posted by segovius
Asleep?

One of the greatest WC matches in at least the last 4 tournaments.

I second that. By far the most thrilling match of the tournament. Amazing.
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post #282 of 556
6/25/06 at 4:18am
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Originally posted by segovius
Interesting US take on 'soccer'


Wow. Take everything that uniquely goes to make football the most popular game on the planet and the World Cup a bigger sporting event the Olympics and describe those things as faults.

Someone's missing the point.
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post #283 of 556
6/25/06 at 9:04am
Since we don't do well in soccer we have to spin things out our way. We use to be the same with basketball and baseball.

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post #284 of 556
6/25/06 at 9:38am
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Originally posted by segovius
Interesting US take on 'soccer'


I like this part from an intelectual POV, though i think it is pure
speculation anyway based on utter misunderstanding of Fussball the European way.

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DESPITE HEROIC EFFORTS ...
Our country has yet to succumb to the nihilism, existentialism, and anomie that have overtaken Europe. A game about nothing, in which scoring is purely incidental, holds scant interest for Americans who still believe the world makes sense, that life has a larger meaning and structure, that being is not an end in itself, being qua being.
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post #285 of 556
6/25/06 at 11:54am
Another embarrassing performance by England. John Terry to this point has got to be one of the worst central defenders in the WC. I hope his current form is permanent.

Disappointed that Ecuador didn't push harder for the equalizer because I thought they would be the ones less affected by the heat and humidity.
Nice goal by Beckham...however one good play does not justify him being captain. Did you see him throwing up? Yikes.

And Eriksson...Carra for Joe Cole??? I could understand subbing for Beckham..but a central defender for...Cole?? And why doesn't Lennon start is one for the ages.
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post #286 of 556
6/25/06 at 1:18pm
Holland v Portugal - most excitement I've ever seen in a game. Love it. 16 Yellow Cards - 4 Red. Unbelievable.
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post #287 of 556
6/25/06 at 1:22pm
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Te lo explico en español mejor si te cuesta el inglés boludo?

Tres idiomas no te dieron la educacion minima para dirigirte a una persona.
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post #288 of 556
6/25/06 at 2:01pm
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Originally posted by MarcUK
Holland v Portugal - most excitement I've ever seen in a game. Love it. 16 Yellow Cards - 4 Red. Unbelievable.

The ref was a poor guy, to put it in a nut: a catastrophy.
He'd better cut the play short after minute 70 something.
The minute he didn't pulled the red card against this
severe Boulharouz (min. 8, after a really dangerous foul
against Ronaldo), the minute he lost control over the entire game.
The fierce attacks of the Portugiese people were understandable,
but not acceptable. It was a bloody mixed mess after all. Jeez.
What a game.
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post #289 of 556
6/25/06 at 2:17pm
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Originally posted by lucianok
Tres idiomas no te dieron la educacion minima para dirigirte a una persona.

Mirate en el espejo, porque fuistes vos quien se dirigió a mi en privado. Te faltó el factor H. Ya no se diga el factor inteligencia. Si no te importa, I'm going to speak English from now on.
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Originally posted by MarcUK
Holland v Portugal - most excitement I've ever seen in a game. Love it. 16 Yellow Cards - 4 Red. Unbelievable.

For a moment I was hoping they'd break out a rugby ball...unreal.
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post #290 of 556
6/25/06 at 2:25pm
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Originally posted by Gilsch
For a moment I was hoping they'd break out a rugby ball...unreal.

Although im gutted my team, Holland went out a bit early, I was hoping they'd score if not to see an extra 30 mins of that game. Im sure all hell would have broken out.

Shame Mexico went out aswell, two teams that on the night could win this cup, and certainly much better than some of the teams that will progress further.

Still, at least I can be somewhat certain that Englands pathetic losers come to an end on Saturday.
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post #291 of 556
6/25/06 at 2:30pm
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Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
Wow. Take everything that uniquely goes to make football the most popular game on the planet and the World Cup a bigger sporting event the Olympics and describe those things as faults.

Someone's missing the point.

Over the last 16 years soccer has come a long way in the US, and it continues to steadily gain popularity. The detractors are starting to get pissy because they're having a harder time finding other Americans who don't want to watch soccer.
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post #292 of 556
6/25/06 at 3:44pm
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Originally posted by Splinemodel
Over the last 16 years soccer has come a long way in the US, and it continues to steadily gain popularity. The detractors are starting to get pissy because they're having a harder time finding other Americans who don't want to watch soccer.

Very good point. I think you're right.
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post #293 of 556
6/25/06 at 3:51pm
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Originally posted by MarcUK
Although im gutted my team, Holland went out a bit early, I was hoping they'd score if not to see an extra 30 mins of that game. Im sure all hell would have broken out. Shame Mexico went out aswell, two teams that on the night could win this cup, and certainly much better than some of the teams that will progress further.

Well, Holland were missing something...or someone. As in an in form Van Nistelrooy. With the 2004 Van Nistelrooy they would've been a very dangerous team.

Mexico...I'm not so sure about. They outplayed the argies in the first half...and the forced susbtitutions may have disrupted their game plan quite a bit...but I'm still not sure they could beat strong teams consistently.

Man, an extra 30 minutes of that game....they would've had to suspend the game from lack of players...and coaches.
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post #294 of 556
6/25/06 at 9:43pm
I was rooting for an equalizer to allow for that 30 minutes. It would have been amazing to watch.
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post #295 of 556
6/26/06 at 8:28am
Aus and Italy playing. Big match for me. I'm *The* Aussie in my school And ooo i cant imagine the faces of those Italians in the morning :P
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post #296 of 556
6/26/06 at 8:31am
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Originally posted by Ipod mondo
Aus and Italy playing. Big match for me. I'm *The* Aussie in my school And ooo i cant imagine the faces of those Italians in the morning :P

Think you aussies will sneak through.
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post #297 of 556
6/26/06 at 8:48am
How wrong was Italy's penalty? Feel sorry for all the Aussies.
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post #298 of 556
6/26/06 at 8:50am
Yeah we couldn't believe it here either

After that 2nd half I thought we had to score eventually. I suppose we should have scored earlier on one of our 100 chances.
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post #299 of 556
6/26/06 at 8:52am
Wow. That is an embarrassing way to go through. That was never a penalty. Not even close. If I had been the aussie defender and knowing the game was over I'd have given that ref. a nice piece of my mind.

That's what you get with expert divers. It's a shame. I hope some day Fifa utilizes instant replay for plays like this and then red cards the divers.
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post #300 of 556
6/26/06 at 8:59am
I don't think it was a dive as such, he merely fell over Neill. The problem was the call, not the play in my mind.

EDIT: OK, just watched it again and there's a fair bit of dive in that

2nd EDIT: The red card on the Italians was a terrible call too. I might have to give FIFA a call and ask them to replay the game
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post #301 of 556
6/26/06 at 9:34am
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Originally posted by dojobi
EDIT: OK, just watched it again and there's a fair bit of dive in that

Anyone who can't "jump" over a fallen player is diving my friend.
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2nd EDIT: The red card on the Italians was a terrible call too. I might have to give FIFA a call and ask them to replay the game

I agree. It may have been a harsh call on the red card...it was a yellow for sure but not sure about a red.

Maybe the ref wanted to compensate for the red card by gifting them a penalty kick in the last minute of play.
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post #302 of 556
6/26/06 at 9:42am
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Originally posted by Gilsch
Wow. That is an embarrassing way to go through. That was never a penalty. Not even close. If I had been the aussie defender and knowing the game was over I'd have given that ref. a nice piece of my mind.

That's what you get with expert divers. It's a shame. I hope some day Fifa utilizes instant replay for plays like this and then red cards the divers.

Yep. . . The Italians seem to have the officials in their corner. It's a damn shame, and I sincerely hope there's no foul play: the recent Serie A match-fixing scandal doesn't make me feel confident, however.

Lastly, where are the cards for diving? When I rule the world, people will HANG for diving.
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post #303 of 556
6/26/06 at 11:00am
Uhh, i feel very sorry for the Aussie team. That penalty
was a god sent mistake. Ref, Nose in the corner!

Now Swizerland is playing. Crossing my fingers
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post #304 of 556
6/26/06 at 11:04am
I think that referee helped, but Australia played with one more player a long time and couldn't score. It was a bad game and a bad referee.
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post #305 of 556
6/26/06 at 12:51pm
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Originally posted by lucianok
I think that referee helped, but Australia played with one more player a long time and couldn't score. It was a bad game and a bad referee.

Swizz vs. Ukraine tries to top that even more.
Awful Kick.
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post #306 of 556
6/26/06 at 1:44pm
When Italy had 11 men they didn't attack much either. Australia didn't score with one more player....but diving and getting rewarded for it doesn't justify the game ending like that.
Unless you come from a country where diving is not only praised but encouraged.

Poor Swiss. Guess they should've practiced their penalty kicking. And Sheva missed his kick exactly the same way he missed against Liverpool.
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post #307 of 556
6/27/06 at 1:22pm
Wow this esp/fra match looks pretty good...
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post #308 of 556
6/27/06 at 1:30pm
Well played and 1st card at the 65th minute. Better than the Brazil, Ghana game. The ref is controlling the game and letting it be played and determined on the field.


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post #309 of 556
6/27/06 at 1:49pm
Very good game. I should have listened to who ever said Spain would choke.

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post #310 of 556
6/27/06 at 2:38pm
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Originally posted by reg
Very good game. I should have listened to who ever said Spain would choke.

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Originally posted by Gilsch
Spain is looking good. But they have looked good in the past aswell...only to crash and burn. Just like Portugal.


Well, France looked good. Very quick and a lot of movement and solid defensively. I'm really liking Ribery. Sagnol had a heck of a game on defense aswell.

España, España, España. You did it again.
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post #311 of 556
6/27/06 at 5:04pm
It's going to be Germany vs. Brazil. Home Team vs. World Favourite.

What a game that's going to be.
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post #312 of 556
6/27/06 at 7:24pm
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Originally posted by Frank777
It's going to be Germany vs. Brazil. Home Team vs. World Favourite.

What a game that's going to be.

I really hope you're right man. Don't forget that would also be a rematch of the 2002 Final.
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post #313 of 556
6/27/06 at 11:08pm
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Originally posted by Gilsch
España, España, España. You did it again.

So true. For a team of such talent, they sure choke a lot when it counts. My Spanish mate is fuming atm
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post #314 of 556
6/28/06 at 2:31am
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Originally posted by Frank777
It's going to be Germany vs. Brazil. Home Team vs. World Favourite.

What a game that's going to be.

Would be fun and a nice recap of the
2002 final. Anyway, i don't think Brazilia will
reach the finale, no dice They gonna be stoped by
France. "Round"aldo vs. the elderly, fun fun fun.
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post #315 of 556
6/28/06 at 4:15am
How a football lover can support France following Henry's blatent piece of cheating is beyond me. It was almost as bad as Rivaldo's face clutching in the corner 4 years ago.

To my mind it strengthens the need to have a proper post match video review, so TH can receive a red card post event for play acting, and Puyol drops his yellow (I wouldn't use it to alter the results of matches, mind).

BTW, following the Arsenal / Barcelona Champions League final where the same Puyol marked Henry out of the game, Henry said "Next time I'll learn to dive maybe, but I am not a woman". Turns out that he has, and he is.

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post #316 of 556
6/28/06 at 11:00am
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Originally posted by iMac David
How a football lover can support France following Henry's blatent piece of cheating is beyond me. It was almost as bad as Rivaldo's face clutching in the corner 4 years ago.

To my mind it strengthens the need to have a proper post match video review, so TH can receive a red card post event for play acting, and Puyol drops his yellow (I wouldn't use it to alter the results of matches, mind).

BTW, following the Arsenal / Barcelona Champions League final where the same Puyol marked Henry out of the game, Henry said "Next time I'll learn to dive maybe, but I am not a woman". Turns out that he has, and he is.

David

It's your interpretation.
I did not see the same thing. The spanish player did a foolish mistake.
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post #317 of 556
6/28/06 at 3:55pm
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Originally posted by Powerdoc
It's your interpretation.
I did not see the same thing. The spanish player did a foolish mistake.

Don't mean to take sides here, but that was blatant. How could you not see it????

Puyol hit Henry on the chest and Henry dropped to the ground clutching his face???

I have suggested before that FIFA should definitely review games and suspend players who try to trick the referee by diving and over dramatization. Ban those suckers a good couple of games and make it well known why.
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post #318 of 556
6/28/06 at 4:21pm
Though personally I like the idea, they would have to cancel all games because almost everyone would be suspended!

 

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post #319 of 556
6/28/06 at 4:31pm
I think with this cheating epidemic, they need video refs like in cricket. ie clear cut decisions are made on the spot, but they refer anything unclear to the video ref.

Barring that, they could at least add video refs for any calls in the box.
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post #320 of 556
6/29/06 at 1:03am
Powerdoc,

as Gilsch says, what did you not see that I did? No part of Puyol's anatomy touched Henry's face, and yet he went down clutching it!

I was watching the game in the UK, and both Terry Venable and Ruud Gullit called it blatent cheating. I have to agree with them.

Going back to video, I agree that probably for a while players would get a shock. But hopefully they're not all so daft that their behaviour wouldn't change quickly.

David
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