Originally posted by Ensign Pulver
Please, please, please go fuck yourself.
You have GOT to be kidding. Slave labor conditions and you justify it as some necessary step on the glorious road to capitalistic paradise? You wouldn't subject yourself or a family member to those conditions for five minutes, but you'll sit there in your comfortable middle-class existance and claim this is actually good for people? You should be deeply, deeply ashamed. Your comments are some of the most disgusting I have ever seen on the Internet, and that's really saying something.
Here's a quick history lesson to augment your Alabama public school system education. It only took a thousand years in the west for the free market to generate a minumum wage and workers' rights. Due to nothing but blind luck, you now sit on your ass in Starbucks the beneficiary of a millenium of slave and child labor, which of course gives you the moral highground to tell those ingrate dollar a day workers how good they got it.
What you are saying isn't totally correct, and the part that is, about the time it took for developed countries to get where we are, only illustrates how difficult it all is.
If you read the Times or the WSJ, you will see that companies in China are already having to give workers higher salaries, better working conditions, etc. The complaint there is that as conditions in the countryside have been improving, the factories are having a labor shortage! Hard to believe, but true.
Others there have complained that China is already losing its status as the lowest cost producer to Vietnam, and other countries.
So, the cycle continues. I'm not sure what you would suggest as a viable solution. There isn't enough money in the world to pay Chinese, Indian, and other low wage earners competitive wages, working conditions, and benefits at this time. That will take generations. I remember when the Japanese were earning much less than we were. Not any more. The same thing has been happening in S Korea, and Taiwan.
It's sad to see this, but it's been happening for a very long time. Nothing new.
Look at what happened in E Germany when the reunification occured. Despite W Germany pouring a $100 billion a year into the east, the living wage, unemployment, and living conditions there have remained well behind the west. And with that trillion dollars, a mere 16 million people couldn't be dragged into equality. What do you think it would take to drag the 95 times larger Chinese population into rough equality with the developed nations? India? Indonesia? Etc.?
My theory has been that it will take over 50 years. But it will happen. Then, most of the world will be on a roughly even footing, except for Africa. That will take even longer.