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i personally hate the current imac designs...i loved the G4's..but the G5's are lame.....Can anybody make a few mockups of future imac designs and please say your favorite imac design (go G4 and fruit colored!!!!!!!!)......so please make some mock ups

And you can just say what your would like in the next imac...and which one was your favorite...
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i personally hate the current imac designs

I Love the design of my core duo iMac
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Thinner with less chin. Eventually it will just look and be a thin as the current thinnest moniters. An inch thin etc. With a slot load Superdive.
They saw they future before everybody else, and they felt they were at a stage technology wise where they could put the whole computer in the display. That wasn't possible in the past, and they were they first to do it! The future will see a very thin display with the whole computer built in to it.
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Originally posted by Ireland
Thinner with less chin. Eventually it will just look and be a thin as the current thinnest moniters. An inch thin etc. With a slot load Superdive.
They saw they future before everybody else, and they felt they were at a stage technology wise where they could put the whole computer in the display. That wasn't possible in the past, and they were they first to do it! The future will see a very thin display with the whole computer built in to it.

just i hope they dont make the thing square again...and put less room on the bottom....G4!!!!!!!!!!
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The problem with thinner is that eventually it becomes restrictive in the components that can be used. I do not want to see the iMac forced to use notebook components as they are usually slower and more costly. This is form leading function IMO.
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Originally posted by Ireland
Thinner with less chin.

Stop complaining about a chin that actually looks pretty good on an iMac.
You probally don't have an iMac and actually don't even care about the chin either, but mention it here for whiners sake.
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Eventually it will just look and be a thin as the current thinnest moniters. An inch thin etc. With a slot load Superdive.

Where will you put the 1" high 3.5"HD? In the chin?
Or do you want the same 2.5" slow-poky HD like the Mac mini has?
And don't come crying about the fact the superdrive doesn't support 16x DVD±R, because they couldn't fit a fullheight version.
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They saw they future before everybody else, and they felt they were at a stage technology wise where they could put the whole computer in the display. That wasn't possible in the past, and they were they first to do it! The future will see a very thin display with the whole computer built in to it.

It's fine as it is.

If you make it thinner some parts have to move anywhere else and I would hate it to have the powersupply out of the box, just like the Cube or Mac mini, just because a desktop computer has, for some obsure reason, to be thinner than it already is.

I think the current formfactor will stay for a while, maybe a larger screen, maybe a Black One, that's it.

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The iMac G4 design was flawed by nature:
Too expensive to build with it's chrome gimmick arm.
Powerless.
Too extrovert (lookatme, lookatme) design. (chrome Apple, anyone)
Too much a Cube in disguise.

And because of this its sales were pretty poor.
Apple had to sell the eMac to consumers to gain some desktop sales.

It failed miserably and will not be missed.
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@ "gar" I said eventually!
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Guys/Gals:
Rather than see its shortcomings, look at the positive side of the imacG4's design. It was unique in that it had a circular motherboard. They could fit a full size hdd and a full size superdrive there. And the monitor arm is very flexible and reasonably sturdy - i have a 6 year old and an 8 year old pounding on it from all sides day after day for about 2 years now and it seems to take it all well - still doesn't show a sign of slack. The belly gives the imac incredible stability so that my brats dont knock/tip it off the table.

On the other hand, the imac G5 is totally rad.

My vision of a cool machine, not necessarily the imac, would be a mac the size of a small pda (er, shall we say mu-mac - as in micro-mac ) and you buy the monitor where you dock the mu-mac on a special docking station and work on it - when you go out take the mu-mac out instead of a laptop and plug it into your office monitor which has another such beast.

Any takers ?
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I've written here often:
I believe, the road leads to the "invisible" computer...

we've lost cables (keyboard, mouse, LAN, Airport express audio/video?)
we've lost case (integrated into monitor)

so, what else can vanish?

location

I'm pretty sure, on the long run, we do have many monitor/display/beamers/whatever in our household; that is all "connected", leaving your reallife desktop, going to living room will "transfer" project to that display (besides: that was a very old project at MIT's medialab, using a server and some "tags/batches"...); so, maybe, we see in the future a black-box with some terabytes in the cellar, and some tiny "plugs" which will rendezvous/bonjour all "displays"...
and, for sure, we will see a "mobile display"/docPod with some kind of input ability (anyone ink? voice-recog? Scottie!!)
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Originally posted by luvosx
Guys/Gals:
Rather than see its shortcomings, look at the positive side of the imacG4's design.

It looked gorgeous...



that's it
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I'd like to see an iMac Pro and an iMac Nano.

The iMac Pro would have the beautiful LCD mounting arm (using any other computer feels restrictive to me) and desktop sized (fast, cheap) components in a base which supports the weight of the 20/23" screen. Available in Black or Brushed Metal. With 2 Accessible DIMM slots and an ExpressCard/54. Two USB2 and 1 FW400 and the card slot would be mounted on the front of the machine. The wired Keyboard provided would also have 2 USB2 ports included.

The iMac Nano would be a very slim laptop component based machine which looks like a reduced chin version of the current iMac in 17 and 20" versions. It may be VESA mounted if required. To offset the low speed of the small hard disk the iMac Nano would have 4Gb flash memory for the OS to be stored in and would be a step towards the thin-client model that broadband connectivity/.Mac offers. Available in Black or White. This may be marketed as the eMac. It would be offered as BTO with or without drives and Airport 802.11n to keep costs down for educational establishments who would probably have large servers and wired networks.

Both models can be controlled by a bluetooth enabled remote with click wheel. iSight would of course feature in both models. In addition both machines would ship with iWorks (like the old days of the consumer machines having Claris or Apple Works)
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Originally posted by mrtotes
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The iMac Pro would have the beautiful LCD mounting arm (using any other computer feels restrictive to me) and desktop sized (fast, cheap) components in a base which supports the weight of the 20/23" screen.
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If you think it needs the components in the base to support the weight of the screen, the screen can certainly not be mounted on an arm, don't you think.

Why mess with something that's already perfect?

Keep it simple, stupid
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Thinking aloud, the imac G4 looked gorgeous of course and served more like a "home" pc niche. How else can one justify a 15" lcd at 1024x768 resolution on a desktop ? And the G4 peaked out at 1.25GHz (the 1.42s didn't make it to imac ?) that made it slow for serious work - try a 20" costing close to $1800 - probably even less justifiable

Well, [gar] certainly has a point there. But it served its purpose in the days where there was no "today's" proliferation of multimegapixel digital cameras, i guess so may be they didn't need the box - probably this is their way of persuading you to upgrade every couple of years

Definitely the imac G5 is a much faster machine - and Apple are being more aware of the fact that the imacs are considered for serious use as well - hence the mainstream core duos and plans to do core2 duos ?

Interestingly, virtual computing has been on many people's radars for a while now - but our bandwidths can't even take HD streaming on a dedicated cable line ~ 30Mbps ? - I wonder how realtime computing can fare where people expect high resolution pictures etc. to be edited and hd movies to be streamed.

Ideally that would be great - I guess we are inching forward towards that - While they crack this nut open, in the short term, i wouldn't mind some slick boxes for sure
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What's the betting we see a Black version too in slightly redesigned iMac @ Macworld '07. (ignore the keyboard etc. and it would be matte not gloss)





In a few years we'll see an iMac similar design to this one but roughly 1/3 this thickness. (obviously a few hurdles will have to be overcome, but it will happen eventually. OLED, flash, very low watt/heat chips etc.) I think the form factor is right though, and we'll start to see alot more copy-cats soon!

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I LOVE LOVE LOVE the G5/intel imac design. Its my first imac, and although I understand the slow resistance to when apple changes form factors...they really do get better.

We get attached to apple designs. I didnt even HAVE a G4 imac(lamp style), and when the G5 imacs came out, I remember feeling kinda bummed. I had WANTED and lusted for the G4 imac for so long.

But after getting the G5 imac, I couldnt imagine ever getting the G4 imac. I think its the perfect evolution of design. It has no clunky heavy base like the G4. Its really a marvel of aesthetic appeal.

I know that whenever Apple decides to change the imac form factor again, I may initially resist....but I will most likely warm up to it just as quickly.

For now though, I am VERY happy with my G5 imac. :-)
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Originally posted by Ireland
What's the betting we see a Black version too in slightly redesigned iMac @ Macworld '07. (ignore the keyboard etc. and it would be matte not gloss)



Badass!
post #17 of 44
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Originally posted by gar
If you think it needs the components in the base to support the weight of the screen, the screen can certainly not be mounted on an arm, don't you think.

Why mess with something that's already perfect?

Keep it simple, stupid

Apple made the iMac G4 20" heavier in the base to support the adjustable screen on an arm - I can see how the design works about 60 cms in front of me! ;-)

I don't believe either iMac design is perfect and certainly not the iMac G5/ICD the ports are hidden out of reach - especially USB ports for flash drives etc; and the screen height and azimuth are much more difficult to set to differing user's perfection without the use of a Yellow Pages! However the iMac G5/ICD is far far better for upgrading or maintaining the machine as anyone who has cracked an iMac G4 will admit to.

I'd probably be happy with the iMac G5/ICD design if the wired keyboard had a FW/USB2 hub (& a flash card reader? - too much to ask for!) in it. The current iMac design wouldn't work in how I have my work/home space set up. I need to be able to push the screen back and twist it repeatedly for different tasks - something that would require the iMac G5 to be moved bodily around the desk to achieve.

kind regards

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If you only knew the machine...
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The G4 iMac was great while it lasted, but there are reasons why we won't have anything like that again. Both the amazing anglepoise arm and the round base cost far too much money to make the machine competitive price wise. The curves also seem to cause a nightmare in design and manufacture. Just look at a clamshell iBook - the ports are all at different angles, while newer designs put them in a straight line.

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Originally posted by Ireland
What's the betting we see a Black version too in slightly redesigned iMac @ Macworld '07. (ignore the keyboard etc. and it would be matte not gloss)





In a few years we'll see an iMac similar design to this one but roughly 1/3 this thickness. (obviously a few hurdles will have to be overcome, but it will happen eventually. OLED, flash, very low watt/heat chips etc.) I think the form factor is right though, and we'll start to see alot more copy-cats soon!


That's sweet! Would prefer that the keyboard was black with light up keys though...

post #21 of 44
wont buy until it loses its chin
absolutely needs a wireless keyboard and a BT mighty mouse.
post #22 of 44
simplicity is it's own beauty

what about the present setup but the computer portion is modular...such that if you want to upgrade your HD you can pull it out and replace it, or the superdrive, pull it out and replace it. or a second bay for added drives. make it more flexible. or have a home "server, cpu" that streams to a "monitor" then every monitor is your computer, or a shared computer. it could handle say 4-5 monitors including the tv??? now that would be a direction for a home media "center" right now the computer has a "space" and you must go to that space to use it, laptops help but don't have the "ooomph" of a desktop. get rid of the desk, more flexible, the real issue is everywhere access. so apple would sell "monitors" with BT and wifi (n) and we would have a central cpu with multiple bays for that 5 terabyte drive system. "stream and save" everything anytime, anywhere, everywhere.

see we focus on the form factor, what we need to focus on is flexibility and a new philosophy for "computer access". we have a problem with "mind set" we keep thinking "looks, form"

you know i think this post has my most use of "..." on this forum ever.....congratulations to me


is it just me or is AI posting and editing very slow, we are talking minutes the last few days to see your post and edit. this edit took 2-3 minutes to come up hmmmmm or should i say "hmmmmmm"
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post #23 of 44
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wont buy until it loses its chin
absolutely needs a wireless keyboard and a BT mighty mouse.

I like the chin. Gives it personality.
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Oh no, not back on this whole chin topic again, how many times has this come up on the forum?
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wont buy until it loses its chin

Have you actually ever used one, or are you speaking from "experience" of looking at photos on Apple's website?
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its a near perfect design other computer makers drool over it's like sprinkling glitter on a rose...it's almost arrogant to change the "look" . when I walked into an apple store and see it for the first time....a quiet solitude engulfs me...because i am in the presence of a design that is changing the WORLD. show me something as sweeeeet8)
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show me something as sweeeeet8)

23" iMac....?
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23" iMac....?

i meant DESIGN
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post #29 of 44
How about this for the new imac:



But wait, isn't that just a Mini attached to a cinema display?

Well yeah and let's compare prices shall we.

20-inch imac:
20-inch widescreen LCD with 1680x1050 resolution
2.0GHz Intel Core Duo with 2MB shared L2 cache
512MB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM
250GB Serial ATA hard drive
Slot-load 8x double-layer SuperDrive
ATI Radeon X1600 graphics with 128MB GDDR3 memory
Built-in AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth 2.0

price: £1,129

My new imac:
20-inch cinema display comes with 2xusb2 and 2xFW400 ports
1.66GHz Intel Core Duo processor 2MB L2 Cache
512MB memory (667MHz DDR2 SDRAM)
80GB Serial ATA hard drive
Double-layer SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
Built-in AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth 2.0
Apple Remote
add an x1600 GPU w 128MB VRam instead of Intel GMA

price: £549 (display) + £599? (CD Mini with better GPU - you can get an x1600 pro for £70 online) = £1,148

So it's a little more expensive and you get a smaller HD, slower CPU (possibly not - I'm sure they could up the spec) but you get 3FW ports and 6 usb2 ports and it looks a lot nicer - stupid chin (and yes I have one in the office - though it's not mine. The person using it finds the chin handy for post-it notes though).

The other advantage the Mini cinema has is if your display goes bad, you can get a cheap one to replace it. You also don't have to fumble around trying to get a cd/dvd in the slot on the side. You also don't have difficulty plugging devices in or finding the power button. I really wish Apple would give up the idea with the all-in-ones.
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Why?!... the iMac is awesome!

And that thing about the powerbutton is just plain rubbish, both powerbuttons are at the back of the machine.

And if you want to plug other peripherals to the "hub" located in the back of the Cinema Display... you have to do the same handling just like with the iMac.

And do you get that awesome feature with magnets to attach the remote to the side? No... so you'll probably lose the damn remote that costs £19.

What about the iSight?!.. you forgot to ad £99 to your "this-is-way-better-that-the-iMac-combo-deal-but-it-costs-more-and-get-less-'cause-I-don't-like-the-iMac"

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How about this for the new imac: [snip]

psssssst it sucks.
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And that thing about the powerbutton is just plain rubbish, both powerbuttons are at the back of the machine.

The Mini one is at the top right of the machine though and easy to find.

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And do you get that awesome feature with magnets to attach the remote to the side? No... so you'll probably lose the damn remote that costs £19.

You sit it on top of the Mini.

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What about the iSight?!.. you forgot to ad £99 to your "this-is-way-better-that-the-iMac-combo-deal-but-it-costs-more-and-get-less-'cause-I-don't-like-the-iMac"

Ok, I'll give you that one but in my hypothetical mockup, Apple would magically reduce the cost of the cinema display by £99 because of the fact they'd be selling more of them.

I really just want to see a better design. Mac laptops are among the best designed machines on the market and the G5 tower looks quite good too. I like the Mini also but the imac is the only machine where I think Apple's design dept. has slipped a bit.

The cinema displays look awesome. If you still wanted an all-in-one, then as I've said in the past, they just need to take the HD and optical drive and put it in the base. Then move the rest of the components into the middle of the display at the back.

This means the DVD drive is easier to access and it's very stylish. No chin, no white plastic, functional and beautiful.

I'd also like if the display could be detached from the stand. This way if the display/machine goes bad, you can send it away without your hard drive so that nosey service reps can't snoop all your data. The base should be easy to open so that HD upgrades are easy for the average user.

Oh yeah and it would come with a flat scissor key aluminium keyboard.
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The Mini one is at the top right of the machine though and easy to find.

And how is "right around the corner" (iMac) not easy to find? You only have to find it once, you know.
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On another forum (that will remain unnamed), I suggested at the time the present Cinema Displays were introduced at WWDC and the subsequent halt in iMac G4 sales, that the next iMac was going to look just like the Cinema Displays only thicker. I thought I was going to be stoned. Sure enough I was right. Since they look very similar in design I think whatever redesign we see this time on the Cinema Displays it will lead us to what the new iMac will look like.

I hope the new iMac (and Cinema Displays) possesses an adjustable height display and a display that rotates. Of course, a rotatable display means that Apple has to either put the power brick outside of the unit or they have to incorporate the power supply inside the computer without the "chin."

I am also one that is done with the white/snow look. I like the white iMac  don't get me wrong! I think the current iMac is a great design. But like everything else in this world, it's design day of wreckoning is coming. Apple will want to change it to keep the product fresh. I think Apple's incorporation of white into everything consumer has run its course. And I don't think making the same plastics black Ã* la the black MacBook is the answer either.
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post #35 of 44
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psssssst it sucks.

Oooh! Rebel! Rock music and tongue studs! Stick it to the man!

If Apple released it you would love it.
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One thing is for sure... the chin is there because of design... it's not like they couldn't fit everything at the back of the machine (e.g. Powerbook 12")
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If Apple released it you would love it.

No, I won't.

Because I don't like to have 2 powerbricks on my desk, Slower/smaller HD, slower processor, more cable clutter, integrated graphics, etc. etc.

Dedicated GPU in a Mac mini is not gonna happen.

as said before: why present a bad solution as a good alternative for an already perfect solution like the iMac.
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Never mind. I'm retarded and thought you were speaking in reference to the black iMac.
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I don't like to have 2 powerbricks on my desk, Slower/smaller HD, slower processor, more cable clutter, integrated graphics, etc. etc.

I suppose when your screen goes dark and fuzzy, gets dead pixels or breaks altogether you'll be happy to pay the $600 for a replacement too? Nah, me neither. That's why separating displays from the machine is better. Some people like to upgrade their monitors every now and then without having to sell their machine or use it with their HDTVs.

I currently use a £30 CRT that supports up to 1920x1440 on my Mini and the colour reproduction, refresh rate, viewing angle etc, are far better than an LCD - even one from Apple and I like to have the choice.

As for the power brick issue, I'm sure Apple could make a docking bay at the base of the cinema display so you could share the power. It's true it still has a lower spec and it shouldn't. Maybe Apple need to do some cost analysis on the Mini because there's no reason why it shouldn't be the price of the imac minus the display.

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Dedicated GPU in a Mac mini is not gonna happen.

Hello? Can anyone tell me what the G4 Mac mini I'm typing this on has?

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as said before: why present a bad solution as a good alternative for an already perfect solution like the iMac.

If it was perfect, I'd have one and this thread would not exist.
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Originally posted by Ireland
...they could put the whole computer in the display. That wasn't possible in the past, and they were they first to do it! The future will see a very thin display with the whole computer built in to it.

it was possible. apple didn't invent that form factor. i remember some PCs that used this design in the past. evidently, they weren't as thin as the imac.

i think they were made by gateway or sony, idunno. i don't remember, but the form factor isn't new.
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