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I sure do hope they come out with a spreadsheet. I spent 16 hours wrestling with trying to script Excel to do a simple task and it still won't do it. Not to mention it's a shitty Carbon kludge that is an embarrassment to modern software design.

You can be sure that if Apple releases a spreadsheet, it will have an AppleScript Dictionary that will be very robust and comprehensive. And moving the cursor through a formula with the arrow keys won't take 1/2 second for the cursor to advance to each character. There will be a Cocoa SDK for the spreadsheet framework so that you can embed little spreadsheet items in any window or document. You could send a spreadsheet object in an email and it would just work, right there in the email. Etc.
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Apple on Monday formally announced that CEO Steve Jobs will headline a team of Apple executives that will kick off the company's annual Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) in August with a keynote preview of Mac OS X "Leopard."

Throughout the presentation, Jobs will be joined on stage by Philip Schiller, senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, Bertrand Serlet, senior vice president of Software Engineering and Scott Forstall, vice president of Platform Experience.

The keynote is scheduled for Monday, August 7, 2006, beginning at 10:00 a.m. at San Francisco's Moscone West.

"Throughout WWDC, developers will receive detailed information and best practices on developing Universal applications that take advantage of the performance of Intel-based Macs, including special sessions on performance optimization using Apple software development tools," Apple said.

The five-day event, which runs from August 7 to August 11, will deliver more than 175 technical sessions and labs with new content designed to serve a wide range of Mac developers, including tracks that preview Leopard and dozens of hands-on labs providing opportunities to work developer-to-developer with Apple engineers.

Other activities at Apple's WWDC 2006 include:

presentation sessions led by engineers and experts delivering the technical information needed to take advantage of current technologies in Tiger, and get ready for what's coming in Leopard;hands-on sessions that allow developers to bring their notebooks and get firsthand knowledge of Apple's best practices for leveraging technologies like Spotlight, Core Image, Xgrid, Core Data, Quartz Composer and more;
hands-on, technology specific labs where developers can work one-on-one with Apple engineers to solve problems and answer questions;extra focus on digital media, system administration, game development and scientific computing communities; andspecial events and activities including the opening night's Apple Developer Connection Reception, Apple Design Awards, Stump the Experts and Late Night Labs.

Cost & Registration

The cost of the five-day conference is $1,595 per attendee, with a $300 Early Registration Discount that has been extended through July 7.
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Bring it on!

I want Quartz Extreme Turbo.
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Apple on Monday formally announced that CEO Steve Jobs will headline a team of Apple executives that kick off the company's annual Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) next month with a keynote preview of Mac OS X "Leopard."

The keynote is scheduled for Monday, August 7, 2006, beginning at 10:00 a.m. at San Francisco's Moscone West.
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Monday is the new Tuesday?

I can't remember which day of the week last year's "we're going to Intel" keynote was ... but doesn't Apple usually have a thing for doing stuff on Tuesdays?

Don't tell me, on the Monday they demo Leopard. On the Friday, they release it!

It'd be a smaller shock to the devs than last year's WWDC.
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[B]Apple on Monday formally announced that CEO Steve Jobs will headline a team of Apple executives that kick off the company's annual Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) next month

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The keynote is scheduled for Monday, August 7, 2006, beginning at 10:00 a.m. at San Francisco's Moscone West.

Since when is August the next month after June?
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Since when is August the next month after June?

Clearly AppleInsider started celebrating Independence Day a whee bit early this year. Just slow down on the beer boys the cops are out in force this time of year. Oh and I'm just bowled over by this announcement from Apple.... I was SO SURE some Apple lackey was going to do the Leopard demo. This is such the shock.
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News Update: This year at an Apple event, Steve Jobs will be giving a keynote about some new products.

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Originally posted by fuyutsuki
I can't remember which day of the week last year's "we're going to Intel" keynote was ... but doesn't Apple usually have a thing for doing stuff on Tuesdays?

The WWDC keynote last year was also on a Monday - the day that WWDC begins.
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I can't wait to see Leopard - and to get my paws on Version of it...
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News Update: This year at an Apple event, Steve Jobs will be giving a keynote about some new products.

SCOOP!

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Well, they've always been predicting late-2006 to early-2007. I mean, early December could be the requisite 4 months.
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Originally posted by fuyutsuki
Monday is the new Tuesday?

I can't remember which day of the week last year's "we're going to Intel" keynote was ... but doesn't Apple usually have a thing for doing stuff on Tuesdays?

Apple likes to announce/release new stuff on Tuesday (hardware mostly) because its early in the week to get as much coverage as possible, while still missing those who stray too long on their weekends into monday.

However, this isn't an announcement or anything. Its a conference and keynote presentation, which starts when the show starts.

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Don't tell me, on the Monday they demo Leopard. On the Friday, they release it!

And the next friday they release 10.5.1, the first of many huge bug-fix releases for their OS. Remember, don't upgrade a critical computer until 10.5.3, at the earliest!

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It'd be a smaller shock to the devs than last year's WWDC.

So you think, until Apple announces their next big breakthrough: Their moving to the Windows API! Everyone, time to rewrite your code AGAIN!

Oh, and remember folks. A keynote at a developers conference does not a stone-cold guarantee make (3GHz, anyone??? Or how about Quartz 2D Extreme?). So don't go flippy over some feature as it might not even show up.

Then again, we should start a pool to see how many new features are added to 10.5 that aren't complete, but are stuck in there to get those feature-lists up to 150 or so. Or how many features have obvious omissions because they were pushed in without really thinking something through (you know, like Dashboard's "What do you mean you want to 'delete' a widget? Why would you want to do that?" feature.)

And I wonder when someone's gonna realize that Apple's broken downloads again in Safari, thus releasing a whole other set of security issues...
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This is the first time, as far as I can remember, when Jobs has so many exec's on stage with him at the same time in introducing an OS upgrade. It may have happened when 10.0 first came out, but not after.

This could be a bigger upgrade than thought. He might need help with all of the features and technologies. I'm looking at this as a sign that 10.5 might be a breakthrough product in several ways.

I hope that's right, after all we've heard about the possible functionality it might have.

Louzer, except for Quartz Extreme, was there any other major feature that was announced during a dev conf that wasn't activated in the release, either immediately, or shortly after? I don't remember offhand. That's one advantage Apple does have by not announcing the feature set well in advance. They are free to either add to it, or to subtract what isn't working without anyone knowing.
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Bring it on!

I want Quartz Extreme Turbo.

What? This is a stupid upgrade.

I'm holding out for Quartz Extreme Turbo Pro.
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There are inevitable events that will occur on all Mac forums sites. People will want Apple to hurry the fuck up with 10.5. Apple will release earlier than they should have.

Yes, because Apple releases their biggest software project to satisfy the needs of a couple of forum guys.

Yeah. That's it.
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Don't tell me, on the Monday they demo Leopard. On the Friday, they release it!

Better yet. "Available, day one!"

Seriously though, I believe Panther was released 4 1/2 months after Steve demoed it at WWDC2003 so I can see Leopard getting released by March, 2007. By then iLife '07, iWork '07 (with spreadsheet, database), and Rev B MacBooks will be out so I will be ready for a new notebook by then.
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Better yet. "Available, day one!"

Seriously though, I believe Panther was released 4 1/2 months after Steve demoed it at WWDC2003 so I can see Leopard getting released by March, 2007. By then iLife '07, iWork '07 (with spreadsheet, database), and Rev B MacBooks will be out so I will be ready for a new notebook by then.

Actually it usually does become available day one, to attendees.

Hopefully Apple won't rush the stupid thing to try to beat Vista to market, as I'd rather have a stable build then a quick build.
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Many people just can't seem to wait.

Some being the same people who'll be quickest to whine when things break because of their early adopter impatience. [edit: like what kim kap sol said]

I'm not looking forward to filtering out the inevitable noise increase on Apple/Mac "rumor" forums. It's already starting, e.g. with the nonsense over fake screenshots.

I'll be in no hurry to upgrade to 10.5 until after the fallout period, like with every other major release.
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Actually it usually does become available day one, to attendees.

Hopefully Apple won't rush the stupid thing to try to beat Vista to market, as I'd rather have a stable build then a quick build.

Amen to that.

We saw what happeben with 10.4 where they rushed it out so that they could get it out of the way for the dev conf where they intro'd Intel.
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Amen to that.

We saw what happeben with 10.4 where they rushed it out so that they could get it out of the way for the dev conf where they intro'd Intel.

There are inevitable events that will occur on all Mac forums sites. People will want Apple to hurry the fuck up with 10.5. Apple will release earlier than they should have. People will complain about fucking up 10.5.

It's inevitable. Almost everyone on this board (and many other boards) is guilty of it.
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There are inevitable events that will occur on all Mac forums sites. People will want Apple to hurry the fuck up with 10.5. Apple will release earlier than they should have. People will complain about fucking up 10.5.

It's inevitable. Almost everyone on this board (and many other boards) is guilty of it.

It's true. Many people just can't seem to wait.

I'd like it to be here as well, but patience rules. You can't rush Mother Nature.
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I'd like it to be here as well, but patience rules. You can't rush Mother Nature.

My sentiments exactly! I got no interest in using a POS premature OS.
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I'm hoping the hold the release of Leopard back until well after Vista because I'm sick of Mac OS X features and 'look and feel' appearing in Windows.
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When do you guys think that Leopard will acctually be released? I would assume it would debut sometime before the holidays, but others say it will appear at MWSF. Any thoughts?
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I want to get a Mac Book but I do not really need it until September/October, I have the money now but I think that it is better to wait for Leopard. I hope that it will be released at WWDC. When do you think that it will be avaliable?
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I want to get a Mac Book but I do not really need it until September/October, I have the money now but I think that it is better to wait for Leopard. I hope that it will be released at WWDC. When do you think that it will be avaliable?

September/October will probably be too Early for Leopard. 'Books with Merom chips might be announced/released by then though.
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September/October will probably be too Early for Leopard. 'Books with Merom chips might be announced/released by then though.

I haven't gone back to test my guesstimate but from the time DEVELOPERS are first seeded a NEW 'PREVIEW' RELEASE (as in 10.1 to 10.2 or 10.2 to 10.3 or 10.3 to 10.4) of OS X till the time Apple ships it, goes GM or whatever you want to call it, has to be at least 6 months if 'lots' of under the hood changes went into a release then perhaps even longer.

Developers can't very well be told 'oh yea' you've got 8 or so weeks to test all your apps for compliance with the new OS and fix those that don't cause then we're shipping this baby!

It just doesn't happen that way.... after all the FIRST build they are seeded are (using KIND words here) less than polished/bug free and most of the time not even totally feature free. The 3rd party developers have to not only test their apps but deal with an OS that's buggy as hell. It's a really neat trick when it comes to trying to see if your app works with an OS in that kind of condition.

If it did you'd have a new OS with ZERO 3rd party applications that are 'confirmed' to work (or at-least not trash your whole system).

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I don't understand people who think Leopard will be released during WWDC. It's a developer's conference for goodness sake. Meaning that the reason that Apple is showing the new system is so developers can get their apps ready for the release. What good would it do to release it before the developers even had a chance to update their apps?

The most obvious place to actually release 10.5 is Macworld SF 07.
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I don't understand people who think Leopard will be released during WWDC. It's a developer's for goodness sake. Meaning that the reason that Apple is showing the new system is so developers can get their apps ready for the release. What good would it do to release it before the developers even had a chance to update their apps?

The most obvious place to actually release 10.5 is Macworld SF 07.

Usually they just announce a date and release it, it's not tied to any show.
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I don't understand people who think Leopard will be released during WWDC. It's a developer's for goodness sake. Meaning that the reason that Apple is showing the new system is so developers can get their apps ready for the release. What good would it do to release it before the developers even had a chance to update their apps?

The most obvious place to actually release 10.5 is Macworld SF 07.

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I don't understand your rudness FOR GOODNESS SAKE! I was just asking. If I ask something is because I do not have the answer, I am quite new in this world...and it is not through people like you that I feel comfortable or learn.

Welcome to the Mac world, and this forum. Generally, I'd say the logic is that Apple gives the developers the preview (and the build) and then 4-5 months later, they randomly release the OS to the world. Tiger came out in late April, it was previewed at MWSF (MacWorld San Franciso) 2005 in early January. The last official word about Leopard's release date (I could be wrong on this) was at WWDC 2005, when it was announced and named, and Steve said "late 2006, or early 2007, right around when Vista comes out". This story (and 1-2 before this one) mentioned that Leopard will be previewed at WWDC 2006 (which was pushed from May 2006 to August 2006). "Previewed" means the Steve Keynote will talk about it and show some stuff off, as well as developers getting an early "beta" build, and some workshops on various Leopard features (there's a list on some thread or on Apple's WWDC site)
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Interesting stuff. Thanks for working out all those numbers!
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That's a nice post Dave.

I think Leopard will be out after the January show just so Apple can sell iLife, iWork, etc at that time. Then a couple of months later they can get us all lathered up to lay out some more green for Leopard.
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Some interesting data I culled together...

Yes, it is interesting.

Apple did say after 10.3 came out that their release times would extend. 10.5 is the longest yet, if they give it a few months after the dev conf before it comes out.

I'm thinking that Macworld would be too early. With the longer time Apple is taking to show it, either they are having a problem, or there are too many new additions, and changes for them to get it out when they would have.

It's also possible that with the last couple of Vista delays, Apple decided to extend the development cycle further themselves, to get more breathing room.

I would think first quarter sometime.
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I don't understand your rudness FOR GOODNESS SAKE! I was just asking. If I ask something is because I do not have the answer, I am quite new in this world...and it is not through people like you that I feel comfortable or learn.

That wasn't rude! You should see the arguments we sometimes get into. Compared to many others, this site is VERY mild, believe me!
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Welcome to the Mac world, and this forum. Generally, I'd say the logic is that Apple gives the developers the preview (and the build) and then 4-5 months later, they randomly release the OS to the world. Tiger came out in late April, it was previewed at MWSF (MacWorld San Franciso) 2005 in early January. The last official word about Leopard's release date (I could be wrong on this) was at WWDC 2005, when it was announced and named, and Steve said "late 2006, or early 2007, right around when Vista comes out". This story (and 1-2 before this one) mentioned that Leopard will be previewed at WWDC 2006 (which was pushed from May 2006 to August 2006). "Previewed" means the Steve Keynote will talk about it and show some stuff off, as well as developers getting an early "beta" build, and some workshops on various Leopard features (there's a list on some thread or on Apple's WWDC site)

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