Originally posted by kim kap sol
Apple already offers_10/100/1000 NICs.
The Nvidia Quadro NVS 285 128MB PCIe card is a 160 dollar card.
Apple already offers USB 2, Firewire, audio in/out, RJ-45 (obviously)...we don't need serial, parallel or PS/2.
Apple already offers 4 PCIe slots.
Apple already offers 160GB SATAs.
All of this for $1999...and this isn't no ordinary $1999...these 1999 dollars are on a 7 month old product which is probably worth no more than $1499 now. So in a sense, Apple is offering almost all of that *right now* and the PowerMac G5 could be very competitive *right now* if Apple had a "don't-screw-the customer" policy.
The only enticing features on the HP is the expansion. If I had to choose between a 2900 dollar 2.33GHz Xeon and a 1499 dollar 2.00GHz G5, I'd pick the G5 (probably also because I don't need the expandability though...but whatever).
The next round of pro towers from Apple will certainly have 1GB of RAM min and will retain the same price as a worst case scenario...so I'm fairly certain we'll see the 2.33GHz Xeon and everything we see on the current G5s (and, therefore, the HP) with the exception of 1GB less RAM for $1999.
The only things that are expensive in that HP is the processor and the mobo which probably doesn't add up to more than $1000 if we pretend the mobo is $500 and that HP doesn't get any deal from Intel.
What you're showing is still only a subset of what Hp is offering. It's convenient to ignore that fact.
And you do need serial and parallel. I have equipment that I can't use on a Mac because it needs either.
Test equipment, for example. That's why Apple can't compete in some markets. And the makers of those ports for the Mac left when the Mac's marketshare went south a few years ago.
Apple doesn't offer that board at all, and the ones that come with the machine are cheaper game boards. I bet you can get ANY board for the Hp.
I would pick the 2.33 Xeon. The G5 is a dead issue. Who cares?
Never state what Apple will do, and never put a price on it. The best you can do is to say that you think it would be a good idea for it.
If you happen to be about right, it's just luck. everyone comes out with a prediction of what Apple will do. someone has to be lucky. But it means nothing.
Apple simply has nothing to compete, despite what you say. That 3 year onsite warranty is worth $300 by itself. When you add Apple's extended one to the price it still isn't quite as good.