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post #161 of 181
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kickaha
franksargent, your TimeCube is calling.



Whoa. There's probably some wisdom in there that's reconcilable with major thoughts on existence and spirituality.
But my main issue is, WTF, and then, did they have to use SUCH GIGANTIC FONTS?

Anyway, singularity is not bad, once you accept duality of existence, then once they cancel out, what do you have left? Nothing? Nothing could still be something -- so cancelling out of two dual natures leads to okay, nothing emptyness, perfect Peace? Then that is God, the *Third* aspect beyond our current dual-nature dual-perspective (good,evil) (yin,yang) etc. Didn't read the whole thing (see above on fonts too big and the rambling too intense) so anyways.... Singularity is only "evil" as it is because it is taught and accepted and reinforces non-duality. Accepting duality is the first stage for the next step.

Okay now I can start my own website. Hopefully with better use of fonts and layout.
post #162 of 181
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sunilraman
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Originally posted by Kickaha
franksargent, your TimeCube is calling.


Whoa. There's probably some wisdom in there that's reconcilable with major thoughts on existence and spirituality.

But my main issue is, WTF, and then, did they have to use SUCH GIGANTIC FONTS?

Multiplying two negative numbers yeilds a positive number (-1 x -1 = 1). He seems to try to draw deep conclusions by claiming it is -1. Even Newtonian physics cannot be properly described if it weren't the case and calculus becomes useless. If one is trying to "fix" math to better describe the universe, then it would be best to not break what works in doing so.

The alleged reasoning also involves trying to fight against something. I figure generally people that go font barfing to make a point just need to be disregarded.

I think that page can be used to ward off web designers, if not cause cardiac arrest.
post #163 of 181
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Originally posted by audiopollution
That all seems quite reasonable, to me.

Free your brain, from the "word world" and "assumed math".

I love the internet.

No, it's just more silliness. Incorrect math doesn't help incoherent philosophy.
post #164 of 181
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Originally posted by melgross
No, it's just more silliness. Incorrect math doesn't help incoherent philosophy.

... or the lack of sarcasm tags.
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post #165 of 181
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Originally posted by audiopollution
... or the lack of sarcasm tags.

That's assuming that it WAS meant to be sarcastic. I mean, on Franks part. What I notice is that many remarks seem serious, until they are ridiculed, and then the poster claims that they were sarcastic. Sometimes, I have my doubts.
post #166 of 181
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Originally posted by melgross
That's assuming that it WAS meant to be sarcastic. I mean, on Franks part. What I notice is that many remarks seem serious, until they are ridiculed, and then the poster claims that they were sarcastic. Sometimes, I have my doubts.

I assure you that I was being absolutely sarcastic. It's the only way to deal with the Evil Obscurantism brought forth by Academic Singularity.

Frank, on the other hand ... \
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post #167 of 181
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Originally posted by melgross
That's assuming that it WAS meant to be sarcastic. I mean, on Franks part. What I notice is that many remarks seem serious, until they are ridiculed, and then the poster claims that they were sarcastic. Sometimes, I have my doubts.



No, I don't really want to be on anyone's ignore list (yes to sarcastic). In fact if you do put someone on your list a header of their message still shows up. WTF, curiosity got the cat, and I can't help but read those messages. So perhaps if the messages were omitted entirely from the threads, than I might find it slightly useful.

Yes, I knew that the cliche "If it's broke, fix it" was a bit of a paradox or conundrum, since it's not obvious from casual use how stable or fit your system is. And, I did have the expectation that someone would comment on that statment, believe it or not (it was a truthful statement).

I will say that back in the 10.2.8 days I did all the various things that you all have recommended AND more (to go from 10.2.0 system disks to the 10.2.8 combo updater + other SW parts, I had to have an EXACT order of installation of system components to get a stable OS (i. e. no kernel panics), this was a very laborious and time consuming trial and error process).

I do think things have improved in the update process and stability of the OS since that time, hopefully this situation will improve even more in the future, if some of the things you guys have suggested are incorporated into the Software Update mechanism. I guess I'm just used to the old *NIX days where those systems were stable for what seemed like eternity (i. e. at least several years and several update cycles). It always bothered me that I didn't have a truly stable OS until 10.2.8 given that it was *NIX under the hood.

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post #168 of 181
Hey, I'm just wondering how many people with problems changed a system file/applied a hack/third party patch to their system at anytime and then ran the SW update
post #169 of 181
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Originally posted by mnm2004bft
Hey, I'm just wondering how many people with problems changed a system file/applied a hack/third party patch to their system at anytime and then ran the SW update

That was one of the problems I posted. Yes, I did. The update removed some parts of the hack installs, and the programs either didn't show up, of failed to work. In one case, I forget which now, I would get a kernel panic everytime I started up, unless I started in safe mode, which was how I found the problem and eliminated it.
post #170 of 181
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Originally posted by melgross
That was one of the problems I posted. Yes, I did. The update removed some parts of the hack installs, and the programs either didn't show up, of failed to work. In one case, I forget which now, I would get a kernel panic everytime I started up, unless I started in safe mode, which was how I found the problem and eliminated it.

Thanks for the reply.

So in this case, for anyone who has changed a system file/applied a hack/applied a third party patch to their system, it would be best for them to do a Combo Update since it overrides all files?

I'm really interested in hear from other people who had problems. Thanks
post #171 of 181
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Originally posted by mnm2004bft
Thanks for the reply.

So in this case, for anyone who has changed a system file/applied a hack/applied a third party patch to their system, it would be best for them to do a Combo Update since it overrides all files?

I'm really interested in hear from other people who had problems. Thanks

Yes, that helps a lot.

Remember that Apple has always said that if you move a program or a file, or if you rename something, it might not be seen, and may not be updated. as some files require other files to be updated for them to work properly, this can cause problems as well.
post #172 of 181
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Originally posted by melgross
Yes, that helps a lot.

Remember that Apple has always said that if you move a program or a file, or if you rename something, it might not be seen, and may not be updated. as some files require other files to be updated for them to work properly, this can cause problems as well.

Yeah, I was just trying to see if that was the case because I added the two finger - right click hack on my Macbook Pro and brought my friend's Macbook Pro which had not been tampered with by the hack and we both did the software update, side by side. My Macbook Pro experienced problems while on the other hand, my friend's update ran quite smoothly. I lost complete trackpad functionality on my Macbook Pro and my friend had to fix it for me by putting back a backup image for me. Perhaps this counts for everything else?
post #173 of 181
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Originally posted by mnm2004bft
Yeah, I was just trying to see if that was the case because I added the two finger - right click hack on my Macbook Pro and brought my friend's Macbook Pro which had not been tampered with by the hack and we both did the software update, side by side. My Macbook Pro experienced problems while on the other hand, my friend's update ran quite smoothly. I lost complete trackpad functionality on my Macbook Pro and my friend had to fix it for me by putting back a backup image for me. Perhaps this counts for everything else?

That was a good example.
post #174 of 181
Deep sleep [Hibernate] hack seems untouched, just to reiterate. And also Screen Spanning hack [iBook] should still work, although I have yet to confirm this. Weird that your trackpad hack got fuX0red by the update.
post #175 of 181
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Originally posted by user23
did this work for anyone who has intalled the 10.4.7 update?

It did, but I lost the ability to connect my Canon Powershot camera. Just re-installed 10.4.7 and everything is back to normal now (including the processor sounds).
post #176 of 181
Well, Karma has come round to bite me in the a$$. I found one of those notorious "invalid sibling link" (google it if you want to see the pain it causes) on Verify hard disk.

So as part of disaster recovery testing (I was/am confident of my backups) I wiped the HD (main solution for invalid sibling problems) and reinstalled 10.4.0. BIG PROBLEM. It would not read the *ahem* pirated 10.4 DVD properly. It used to read it fine a while back and through one or two reinstalls, but today, no go.

So I'll probably hang out on the 10.3.9 (original CDs with iBook are 10.3.0) side of the fence for a while... And then maybe get a legit copy of Leopard or something. Sigh.
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post #178 of 181
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Originally posted by sunilraman
Well, Karma has come round to bite me in the a$$. I found one of those notorious "invalid sibling link" (google it if you want to see the pain it causes) on Verify hard disk.

So as part of disaster recovery testing (I was/am confident of my backups) I wiped the HD (main solution for invalid sibling problems) and reinstalled 10.4.0. BIG PROBLEM. It would not read the *ahem* pirated 10.4 DVD properly. It used to read it fine a while back and through one or two reinstalls, but today, no go.

So I'll probably hang out on the 10.3.9 (original CDs with iBook are 10.3.0) side of the fence for a while... And then maybe get a legit copy of Leopard or something. Sigh.

naughty, naughty boy! serve you right for using pirated software. Seriously though, I generally buy a legit copy of every other OS release from Apple. When I graduate and get a source of income, I'll probably buy every one since Apple does price them reasonably.

Windows and Office-->Forget it. I'm not buying that overpriced piece o' crap.
post #179 of 181
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Originally posted by meelash
Windows and Office-->Forget it. I'm not buying that overpriced piece o' crap.

Don't buy it, don't use it. Simple as that.
post #180 of 181
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Originally posted by sunilraman
Well, Karma has come round to bite me in the a$$. I found one of those notorious "invalid sibling link" (google it if you want to see the pain it causes) on Verify hard disk.

So as part of disaster recovery testing (I was/am confident of my backups) I wiped the HD (main solution for invalid sibling problems) and reinstalled 10.4.0. BIG PROBLEM. It would not read the *ahem* pirated 10.4 DVD properly. It used to read it fine a while back and through one or two reinstalls, but today, no go.

So I'll probably hang out on the 10.3.9 (original CDs with iBook are 10.3.0) side of the fence for a while... And then maybe get a legit copy of Leopard or something. Sigh.

I can't believe you openly admitted that sunil. At least purchase one lefit tiger cd.
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post #181 of 181
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Originally posted by sunilraman
Deep sleep [Hibernate] hack seems untouched, just to reiterate.

It still works, but I had to re-run the command. And moving to hibernate seems to be a little slower.

Why is Apple hiding this feature anyway?
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