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post #41 of 67
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post #42 of 67
Let me see........

You sir are an idiot. :-P

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post #43 of 67
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Let me see........

You sir are an idiot. :-P

Only playing.


hell, i covered all my bases, so...fair enough.
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post #44 of 67
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Originally posted by _ alliance _
hell, i covered all my bases, so...fair enough.

Here have a beer....

post #45 of 67
new ipod may or may not be made by apple
may or may not have a battery
may or may not have a screen
may or may not have an adaptor included
may or may not have any sales at all

oh look a squadron of pigs
post #46 of 67
NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Ive been waiting for this new ipod for sooooo long. Now im sad
post #47 of 67
Apple is screwing themselves with this delay.

The portable music/picture/video player market is evolving at light speed. Apple's competitors are adding more features, higher capacity, and lower prices. Flash memory prices are dropping like a stone. They can't afford to stand still.

Apple is losing out on my business, despite the fact that I've been a loyal customer. I'm looking for an 8Gb flash-based music player, or at least a 4Gb player that's cheaper that CAD $300. The SanDisk 2Gb player is looking like a very interesting proposition right now. I was willing to wait until September, but not until December.
post #48 of 67
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
Apple is screwing themselves with this delay.

The portable music/picture/video player market is evolving at light speed. Apple's competitors are adding more features, higher capacity, and lower prices. Flash memory prices are dropping like a stone. They can't afford to stand still.

Apple is losing out on my business, despite the fact that I've been a loyal customer. I'm looking for an 8Gb flash-based music player, or at least a 4Gb player that's cheaper that CAD $300. The SanDisk 2Gb player is looking like a very interesting proposition right now. I was willing to wait until September, but not until December.

Well, seeing as how this is all speculation, apple hasn't exactly screwed themselves yet now have they? If you wait until september, I'm sure you'll get what you want.
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post #49 of 67
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
Apple is screwing themselves with this delay.

The portable music/picture/video player market is evolving at light speed. Apple's competitors are adding more features, higher capacity, and lower prices. Flash memory prices are dropping like a stone. They can't afford to stand still.

Apple is losing out on my business, despite the fact that I've been a loyal customer. I'm looking for an 8Gb flash-based music player, or at least a 4Gb player that's cheaper that CAD $300. The SanDisk 2Gb player is looking like a very interesting proposition right now. I was willing to wait until September, but not until December.


buying into the hype makes you a sucker.
i laugh at thee.

you're the type of person who gives those morons jobs.

this whole concept of "analysts" reminds me of tabloids...
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post #50 of 67
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Originally posted by _ alliance _
buying into the hype makes you a sucker.
i laugh at thee.

you're the type of person who gives those morons jobs.

this whole concept of "analysts" reminds me of tabloids...

I delayed buying my iMac until January based on one of these same types of reports in November that turned out to be correct. Now I'm sitting pretty with exactly the desktop Mac that I always wanted.

Thanks for the advice, thought. A $300 4 Gb Nano just ain't gonna happen.
post #51 of 67
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
I delayed buying my iMac until January based on one of these same types of reports in November that turned out to be correct. Now I'm sitting pretty with exactly the desktop Mac that I always wanted.

Thanks for the advice, thought. A $300 4 Gb Nano just ain't gonna happen.


umm...about 1 out of every 5 guesses they make actually turn out to reveal some truth to it. that 1 of 5 is usually based on truth that has something to back it up with. the other 4 is almost always conjecture that actually stems from boards like this one. they read something that sounds interesting and run with it, turning it into something that doesn't, and never will, exist.

apple=hype
and do you know why that is...? hmm...
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post #52 of 67
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Originally posted by _ alliance _
umm...about 1 out of every 5 guesses they make actually turn out to reveal some truth to it. that 1 of 5 is usually based on truth that has something to back it up with. the other 4 is almost always conjecture that actually stems from boards like this one. they read something that sounds interesting and run with it, turning it into something that doesn't, and never will, exist.

apple=hype
and do you know why that is...? hmm...

So they're hyping me NOT to buy? Interesting logic you got there....
post #53 of 67
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
I delayed buying my iMac until January based on one of these same types of reports in November that turned out to be correct. Now I'm sitting pretty with exactly the desktop Mac that I always wanted.

Thanks for the advice, thought. A $300 4 Gb Nano just ain't gonna happen.

Dude, if you buy into the hype every time, you will get burned more often than not. Second, this is Shawn We spouting off, which is not the same as Kasper spouting off.

Third, I've got to tell you, it's incredibly annoying when people rail against apple for things that are RUMORED to happen. I mean, you're speaking about this as if Shawn Wu has a direct line to god, and this MUST be the truth.

I'm telling, there will almost certainly be updated iPods well in time for the holiday season.

And since a 4 Gb nano is $250, I would certainly hope a $300 4Gb nano isn't going to happen
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post #54 of 67
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Originally posted by Flounder
Dude, if you buy into the hype every time, you will get burned more often than not. Second, this is Shawn We spouting off, which is not the same as Kasper spouting off.

Third, I've got to tell you, it's incredibly annoying when people rail against apple for things that are RUMORED to happen. I mean, you're speaking about this as if Shawn Wu has a direct line to god, and this MUST be the truth.

I'm telling, there will almost certainly be updated iPods well in time for the holiday season.

And since a 4 Gb nano is $250, I would certainly hope a $300 4Gb nano isn't going to happen


better said than i. good job.
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post #55 of 67
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Originally posted by Flounder
And since a 4 Gb nano is $250, I would certainly hope a $300 4Gb nano isn't going to happen [/B]

Let me clarify. I was talking Canadian dollars. 300 Canadian is equivalent to 250 US.

As for the change in suppliers delaying the new Nanos past Sepeteber, this makes sense from a purely philisophical perspective. Even if the rumours aren't true, Apple has already waited too long to refresh the stagnant Nano line.
post #56 of 67
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
Apple is screwing themselves with this delay.

The portable music/picture/video player market is evolving at light speed. Apple's competitors are adding more features, higher capacity, and lower prices. Flash memory prices are dropping like a stone. They can't afford to stand still.

Apple is losing out on my business, despite the fact that I've been a loyal customer. I'm looking for an 8Gb flash-based music player, or at least a 4Gb player that's cheaper that CAD $300. The SanDisk 2Gb player is looking like a very interesting proposition right now. I was willing to wait until September, but not until December.

with 80% market share i rather think that apple is more likely dictating the market, i know ipods dont have EVERYTHING but they WORK, which is the same motivation behind all of their products.

as to apple losing out on your business, well you can hardly call yourself a LOYAL customer if your spouting abuse at the company for not doing something they are RUMOURED to be doing.... can you?

also,if you are looking for an 8Gb player or at LEAST a 4Gb player..... WHY ON EARTH are you going to go for a 2Gb player? this makes less sense than any post ive read all day.

maybe you failed math class??
post #57 of 67
Could people please stop misusing units? "Gb" is a "Gigabit". You want "GB" or "GiB", for "Gigabyte" or "Gibibyte". A Byte is 8 times as much as a Bit.

So when talking about "8 Gbs of flash", you actually say "1 GBs of flash".
post #58 of 67
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Originally posted by Trendannoyer
with 80% market share i rather think that apple is more likely dictating the market, i know ipods dont have EVERYTHING but they WORK, which is the same motivation behind all of their products.

as to apple losing out on your business, well you can hardly call yourself a LOYAL customer if your spouting abuse at the company for not doing something they are RUMOURED to be doing.... can you?

also,if you are looking for an 8Gb player or at LEAST a 4Gb player..... WHY ON EARTH are you going to go for a 2Gb player? this makes less sense than any post ive read all day.

maybe you failed math class??

I'd get the 2 GB SanDisk because it's cheaper and is a stop-gap solution.

As for loyalty, well, I'm not loyal to the point of stupidity. For instance, eMusic is a more attractive proposition than iTunes because it doesn't come with DRM. I use Firefox instead of Safari because I prefer Firefox.

Unlike what you appear to be doing, I don't come in here to start arguments. I'm making a sincere and contructive criticism of what Apple appears not to not be doing, and already is not doing with their iPod Nano line.

So please stop being a superficial Apple fanboy and try to think clearly , objectively, and out of the box.
post #59 of 67
making a decision and criticism based on a rumor is nothing more than stupidity. stop talking.
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post #60 of 67
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Originally posted by Chucker
Could people please stop misusing units? "Gb" is a "Gigabit". You want "GB" or "GiB", for "Gigabyte" or "Gibibyte". A Byte is 8 times as much as a Bit.

So when talking about "8 Gbs of flash", you actually say "1 GBs of flash".

i take your point but i still think you knew what i ment
post #61 of 67
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
I'd get the 2 GB SanDisk because it's cheaper and is a stop-gap solution.

As for loyalty, well, I'm not loyal to the point of stupidity. For instance, eMusic is a more attractive proposition than iTunes because it doesn't come with DRM. I use Firefox instead of Safari because I prefer Firefox.

Unlike what you appear to be doing, I don't come in here to start arguments. I'm making a sincere and constructive criticism of what Apple appears not to not be doing, and already is not doing with their iPod Nano line.

So please stop being a superficial Apple fanboy and try to think clearly , objectively, and out of the box.

while i should follow alliance's advice, just as you should... i feel i must reply

1 please look up the meaning of loyalty.

2 i pointed out that Apple may not be perfect, mmm perhaps you should enlighten me to YOUR version of the term fan boy?

3 i thought making contradictory comments (as you have done) was what amounted to argument, but again i think you might do well to look that up.

4. apple are due to update the ipod range some time from September on... hardly years away so perhaps you should think clearly?

however if by thinking outside the box you mean i shouldn't take into account that apple have remaining stock to shift and are busy with a transition to new chips/UBs but should give you and only you whatever you want as soon as you want it, and ignore their shareholders and potential profits

then yes i agree they should think outside the box and just bleed money like , say... creative are doing.
post #62 of 67
Interesting that analysts have not yet noted that a Samsung delay in a new iPod would mean improvement/extension to PortalPlayer's revenues that would help plug the gap before Preface earnings kick in next year....furthermore if Samsung's SoC really struggles, maybe PortalPlayer might even be asked to reoffer their PP5022 upgrade proposal as a gap-filler...
post #63 of 67
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Originally posted by Trendannoyer
but i still think you knew what i ment

Yes, but in your case, it was quite ambiguous, because flash memory is often referred to in Gb, not GB. E.g., internally, the iPod nano would be referred to as having 8 Gb, 16 Gb or 32 Gb of flash memory.

So yes, it can lead to misunderstandings. No offense.
post #64 of 67
I think we should all just accept the fact that analysts are one rung down the ladder of reliability from weathermen, and move on. Some people, not having realized this, will lose money in the deal. Others, understanding the trend, will reap its rewards. Those who just plain ignore them will likely find the effects average out (don't forget we just had a huge surge largely due to over-hype).
post #65 of 67
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Originally posted by Trendannoyer
while i should follow alliance's advice, just as you should... i feel i must reply

1 please look up the meaning of loyalty.

1. The state or quality of being loyal. See Synonyms at fidelity.
2. A feeling or attitude of devoted attachment and affection. Often used in the plural: My loyalties lie with m
my family.

What's your point?

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2 i pointed out that Apple may not be perfect, mmm perhaps you should enlighten me to YOUR version of the term fan boy?


Perhaps in some other thread, but from none of your comments in this thread imply that Apple is not perfect. To be fair, none of them imply that Apple is perfect either.

Fanboy means a person who tows the Apple line and don't come up with any comments that criticize Apple, contructively or otherwise. I happen to be an individualist who thinks indepedently. My support of Apple is a choice based on consideration of facts, and what's in my best interest, and what I believe to be in the best interest of the IT industry at large.

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3 i thought making contradictory comments (as you have done) was what amounted to argument, but again i think you might do well to look that up.


See my response to point 2 above.
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4. apple are due to update the ipod range some time from September on... hardly years away so perhaps you should think clearly?



September or December, depending on who you talk to. Nobody knows anything for sure, unless you have inside information?

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however if by thinking outside the box you mean i shouldn't take into account that apple have remaining stock to shift and are busy with a transition to new chips/UBs but should give you and only you whatever you want as soon as you want it, and ignore their shareholders and potential profits



Are you sure that by transitioning to new suppliers in the middle of the game that they're doing what's best for shareholders? Just a thought.
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then yes i agree they should think outside the box and just bleed money like , say... creative are doing.


What's your point? Creative is suing Apple for patent infringement in a desperate attempt to save their floundering business.
post #66 of 67
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
September or December, depending on who you talk to. Nobody knows anything for sure, unless you have inside information?


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post #67 of 67
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Originally posted by JavaCowboy
Let me clarify. I was talking Canadian dollars. 300 Canadian is equivalent to 250 US.

As for the change in suppliers delaying the new Nanos past Sepeteber, this makes sense from a purely philisophical perspective. Even if the rumours aren't true, Apple has already waited too long to refresh the stagnant Nano line.

Not to pile on a fellow Canuck but $300 Canadian = $270 U.S
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