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In the wake of a gloomy earnings forecast, Intel Corp. this week said it has commenced shipments of both Conroe and Merom, its new Core 2 Duo dual-core microprocessors for desktop and notebook systems.

During its earnings report on Wednesday, the world's largest chip maker said it quietly pushed the first shipments of its Core 2 Duo desktop processor out the door last quarter, ahead of its formal launch on July 27.

"The mobile PC version of the Intel Core 2 Duo processor is also shipping now, one month ahead of schedule," the company wrote in a set of presentation slides.

Indeed, a report from overseas this week had suggested that Intel would advance the releases of Merom to coincide with Conroe in late July. Intel has scheduled the official launch for both chips for next Thursday.

The Santa Clara, Calif.-based company has been taking a financial bruising at hands of rival AMD, which has in turn spurred a price war between the two companies.

Intel on Wednesday said its second quarter profits decreased nearly 57 percent to $885 million amid stiff competition and a shift in consumer demand towards cheaper products. What's worse, the company gave little indication that conditions would improve during the second half of the year.

AMD, which also released quarterly results this week, said net profits rose sharply to $88.8 million, or 18 cents per share, compared to $11.3 million, or 3 cents during the year-ago quarter. But the chip maker's upbeat earnings were similarly clouded by fears that its price war with Intel would soon worsen.

For its part in the battle, Intel appears poised on delivering its latest chip designs to customers at an unprecedented pace. In addition to the early shipments of Conroe and Merom, the company this week also announced that it has bumped the release of its first quad-core desktop and server chips up to the fourth quarter of this year.

Intel hopes the new lines of dual- and quad-core chips will help stem market share gains by AMD and aid its bleeding shares, which have lost about a third of their value in the last 12 months.

Apple Computer, which recently switched its Mac line to Intel chips, is likely to adopt Conroe and Merom Core 2 Duo processors in future revisions of its desktop and notebook computers.

Apple's MacBook Pro notebooks currently employ Intel's Yonah Core Duo processors. Since Merom was designed to be backwards compatible with Yonah platforms, Apple's first move could come in the form of an abrupt boost to its professional laptop line.
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Since Merom was designed to be backwards compatible with Yonah platforms, Apple's first move could come in the form of an abrupt boost to its professional laptop line.

Mmmm mmm mmm! You said it!

As for Intel's shares ... gotta love it when the market sees the transition from shitty Netburst to supreme Core as a negative. That'll be the price war I suppose. But there will be a tidy sum for Intel to make in the next year or two, fighting back up to total dominance again. A mighty surge Apple is wise to ride.
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Mmmm mmm mmm! You said it!

As for Intel's shares ... gotta love it when the market sees the transition from shitty Netburst to supreme Core as a negative. That'll be the price war I suppose. But there will be a tidy sum for Intel to make in the next year or two, fighting back up to total dominance again. A mighty surge Apple is wise to ride.


Steve: "Oh, and one more thing... for the last five years, just in case things didn't work out between Apple and Intel, we developed a version of OSX that runs on AMD chips"...


And in a related story---
"AMD seen close to $5.5 billion chip deal
Source says Applied Micro Devices could announce deal with #2 Canadian chipmaker as early as Monday."

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/21/tech...reut/index.htm

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Something that scares me about apple is . . . they do not have a budget line to rid themselves of excess stock, of Yonah chips if they wanted to use Merom, and Conroe. Dell has the dimension 1000 series and small business line.

Do you think they will just push Yonah down to the Mini and eMac? This would make sense.
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Originally posted by furious_
Do you think they will just push Yonah down to the Mini

All minis have Yonah.

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and eMac?

The eMac is dead. As for the iMac for education, I don't think they'll leave Yonah in there.
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Oh yes!
Just what I've been waiting for. 64 bit and virtualization on-board in dual core form factors. Yes indeeeeed.

Now all we need is VMWare to complete their port to OSX/Intel (to give Parallels some competition) and it will be all good in the hood.

Having machines with more ram and virtualization will be a real boon to anyone who does software development. The more capacity for RAM the better, as one will be able to use Virtualization to get rid of additional boxes for testing, as well as test across multiple OS platforms and configurations in seconds.

Now we need the GPU manufacturers to get on board and support virtualization of the Video Card, to have full driver support across VM instances.

I'm glad I have not bought an Intel OSX box yet. These are going to be sweet!
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Originally posted by furious_
Something that scares me about apple is . . . they do not have a budget line to rid themselves of excess stock, of Yonah chips if they wanted to use Merom, and Conroe. Dell has the dimension 1000 series and small business line.

Do you think they will just push Yonah down to the Mini and eMac? This would make sense.

I think Apple stops ordering the slower chips, then lets them run out while switching to a faster processor in its products. Dell also operates in very much a just in time basis keeping no more than a week or two's worth of processors on hand.
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Originally posted by MacCentric
I think Apple stops ordering the slower chips, then lets them run out while switching to a faster processor in its products. Dell also operates in very much a just in time basis keeping no more than a week or two's worth of processors on hand.

Yeah, the Mini is widely expected to stay Yonah for a bit and the Edu-iMac may well suffer the same fate since Merom and Yonah are perfectly compatible. No problems really for Apple here. Though if they use Yonah to differentiate the MacBook from the sure fire cert Merom MacBook Pro, then a few of us will be pissed off.

Oh, I just read this "reliable source" on the dive in Intel shares:
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Originally posted by Steve Jobs
The whole Wintel ecosystem is getting blowed up. Dell had to warn the Street this morning. Intel is getting hammered. And everyone knows this is Microsoft's fault for screwing the pooch on Vista. Apparently Michael Smell himself called Billy Boy last night and chewed his ass but good. And you know what? You think this is bad? Q3 and Q4 are gonna look like downtown Beirut compared to this. These morons have nothing to sell.

http://secretdiaryofstevejobs.blogsp...called-me.html

The funny thing is I quite agree with this mock commentary!
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Sweet. This is good news for those who have waited to purchase. There's a good chance we'll see revisions in few weeks. WWDC?
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Originally posted by fuyutsuki
Yeah, the Mini is widely expected to stay Yonah for a bit and the Edu-iMac may well suffer the same fate since Merom and Yonah are perfectly compatible. No problems really for Apple here. Though if they use Yonah to differentiate the MacBook from the sure fire cert Merom MacBook Pro, then a few of us will be pissed off.


The funny thing is I quite agree with this mock commentary!

I haven't seen any benchmarks, but is Merom supposed to run cooler than Yonah? If so I definitely think they'd switch the Macbooks as well as the pros to Merom to deal with some of the heat issues.

On another note, I'm really hoping that WWDC will have an update of both the Mac Pro and the Macbook Pro - given that it's a PRO event!
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Originally posted by pak150
I haven't seen any benchmarks, but is Merom supposed to run cooler than Yonah? If so I definitely think they'd switch the Macbooks as well as the pros to Merom to deal with some of the heat issues.

On another note, I'm really hoping that WWDC will have an update of both the Mac Pro and the Macbook Pro - given that it's a PRO event!

Indeed. I hear Merom is lower watts and higher performance all wrapped up in one - not to mention 64 bit - so I hope to see it in as many Macs as possible. Intel themselves expect it to be the dominant laptop processor for 2007 and early adopters as soon as next week!

Conroe will make sense in the iMac, and anything else Apple want to move that doesn't need Woodcrest punch or Merom cool. New models? Well ... we'll see.
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Originally posted by Chucker

As for the iMac for education, I don't think they'll leave Yonah in there.

I hope they keep yonah in the mini, edu iMac and Macbook and drop the prices. The core duo is a fine chip for these entry level machines.
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When I first heard about the transition just 13 months ago, I was far from convinced it was a good thing. Won't there be troubles ahead? Don't Pentiums suck? Will we simply be jumping from the pan into the fire? So much back then was uncertain.

But now little Yonah has surpassed itself powering the iMac, MacBook Pro, Mac Mini and MacBook ... I'm turned around on the subject. This is the best move since OS X. This is the way to true competition to the Windows platform. Or at least, this is the way to some fantastic new Macs ... often sooner than we expect them!

I liked the G4 and loved the G5. They were great chips in their day, a real step up from the AMD's I'd been using before. But the time has come for something better, something 64 bit and every piece the step forward from the mighty G5 which prove impossible to use in a notebook. Something which we'll be using in enhanced forms for the length of this CPU generation, which goes by the name of:



Alright, they can keep the sticker off my machine! But it's looking one hell of a chip. 3GHz Woodcrest Mac Pro on August 7th and more to come, bring it on!

(Disclaimer: I am not employed or affiliated to Intel, but yeah if they'd like to buy me a Merom MacBook, well I'm not going to argue with them!)
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Originally posted by Chucker
All minis have Yonah.



The eMac is dead. As for the iMac for education, I don't think they'll leave Yonah in there.

ok i will clarify it for you what i ment: faster Yonah's in the mini's and eMac(iMac for education)
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I'm glad I have not bought an Intel OSX box yet. These are going to be sweet!

Believe me, the current ones are very sweet. And next year's will be even sweeter. That's the great thing about buying chips from suppliers who can keep up with the technology curve.
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Originally posted by SpamSandwich
And in a related story---
"AMD seen close to $5.5 billion chip deal
Source says Applied Micro Devices could announce deal with #2 Canadian chipmaker as early as Monday."

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/21/tech...reut/index.htm

AMD + ATI

Oh yeah. I heard about that story a while ago. Either it's off or they're taking their time to tie the knot.

Ars sum up why it could be a great move for AMD and ATI, who each face problems from the current strength of their rivals Intel and nVidia:
http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/amd-ati.ars

If they do merge, it will have implications for Apple. We could end up on Intel and nVidia graphics alone for instance. Although a good deal for AMD and ATI, who both have assets the other needs, it could ultimately spell more lock-in for the industry. Instead of a choice between AMD and Intel processors and a separate choice of graphics, we could end up with two rival architectures essentially locked out from Intel+ATI and AMD+nVidia options. It depends on how Machiavellian Intel and AMD are prepared to be! Expect it to be big news if the deal happens.
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Originally posted by fuyutsuki
Indeed. I hear Merom is lower watts and higher performance all wrapped up in one -

You heard somewhat wrong. Merom will do more for less power, but merom has a few more watts on the max power rating, something like 34W vs. Yonah's 31W. The data sheets aren't up yet, but I don't expect the idle power consumption to go down, though maybe average power might go down if the load doesn't just peak out like some OS X networking software waiting for a server response, the most notable example is iTunes, when it updates podcasts.
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Originally posted by JeffDM
You heard somewhat wrong. Merom will do more for less power, but merom has a few more watts on the max power rating, something like 34W vs. Yonah's 31W. The data sheets aren't up yet, but I don't expect the idle power consumption to go down, though maybe average powor might go down.

Yeah, the specifics are few and far between at the moment. More watts here, less watts there, guess we'll know for sure on release day. It's certainly not substantially hotter than Yonah, while it will be a faster performer and of course 64 bit at last.

Anticipating the in depth reviews...
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Originally posted by JeffDM
You heard somewhat wrong. Merom will do more for less power, but merom has a few more watts on the max power rating, something like 34W vs. Yonah's 31W. The data sheets aren't up yet, but I don't expect the idle power consumption to go down, though maybe average power might go down if the load doesn't just peak out like some OS X networking software waiting for a server response, the most notable example is iTunes, when it updates podcasts.

Wikipedia lists Merom as 35W and Yonah as 31W.
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Originally posted by MacCentric
I think Apple stops ordering the slower chips, then lets them run out while switching to a faster processor in its products. Dell also operates in very much a just in time basis keeping no more than a week or two's worth of processors on hand.

I could have sworn dell was still selling Pentium 2 400's... hmm, maybe it just seems that way...
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Originally posted by SpamSandwich
Steve: "Oh, and one more thing... for the last five years, just in case things didn't work out between Apple and Intel, we developed a version of OSX that runs on AMD chips"...


And in a related story---
"AMD seen close to $5.5 billion chip deal
Source says Applied Micro Devices could announce deal with #2 Canadian chipmaker as early as Monday."

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/21/tech...reut/index.htm

Back when Cyrix was around the x86 version ran in the labs on that as well. Of course AMD works. NeXT/Apple learned long ago to never back themselves into a corner.
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Originally posted by SpamSandwich
And in a related story---
"AMD seen close to $5.5 billion chip deal
Source says Applied Micro Devices could announce deal with #2 Canadian chipmaker as early as Monday."

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/21/tech...reut/index.htm

Isn't that Advanced Micro Devices?
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Originally posted by JeffDM
You heard somewhat wrong. Merom will do more for less power, but merom has a few more watts on the max power rating, something like 34W vs. Yonah's 31W. The data sheets aren't up yet, but I don't expect the idle power consumption to go down, though maybe average power might go down if the load doesn't just peak out like some OS X networking software waiting for a server response, the most notable example is iTunes, when it updates podcasts.

I wonder if they'll give the merom MBP a new enclosure. The current one has been around for awhile.
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I wonder if they'll give the merom MBP a new enclosure. The current one has been around for awhile.

I'm wondering that as well. Obviously they kept the basic PowerBook G4 enclosure for the MacBook Pro because they were in a rush to get the Intel transition moving. I'm sure they have been working on a new enclosure for it along side the MacBook so hopefully they are now ready to use it. On the other hand Merom is pin compatible so they could just take the easy way out.

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I hope the Merom MBP has an updated design. It needs:

Magnetic Latch (like MB)
DL Superdrive across the line
FW800
Better video card - X1900???
Better cooling system - is water cooling possible in a notebook?
Bigger HDD's (100gb, 120gb, 160gb)
More battery life

I hope Apple reduces the power usage to 75 watts, instead of the current 85 watts - for airplane use.
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I don't think there's a mobile x1900 available yet. But the x1800 has been out for about as long as the MBP, so I REALLY think it's time to upgrade the GFX card already.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by furious_
Something that scares me about apple is . . . they do not have a budget line to rid themselves of excess stock, of Yonah chips if they wanted to use Merom, and Conroe. Dell has the dimension 1000 series and small business line...Do you think they will just push Yonah down to the Mini and eMac? This would make sense.



Huh? Their commitment to Intel on the Yonah Solo is probably quite sensible since it only goes into the lowest end Mac, the Mac Mini Core Solo.

The Yonah Core Duos, assuming they've committed to even something like 6 months, that inventory will be easy-peasy to finish off - by keeping the Yonah Core Duos in the Mac Mini Core Duo, MacBook, and iMac EDU version. If MacBookPros and iMac go Merom fast (in the next few months) then the higher speed Yonahs (2.16ghz) can be offered at a slight premium to MacBook buyers to clear those out. Or 2.16ghz Yonah and 2ghz Yonah offered to "MacBook standard" buyers, 1.83ghz Yonah cleared out via possible price drops on Mac Mini Core Duo and "MacBook low end". Once they clear out the Mac Mini Core Solo we could even see in the next few months ALL Mac Minis be Core Duo through to the end of the year.

I think Intel in its aggressive push won't be holding Apple back though, they'll be quite generous to Apple in the sense of "okay, we'll drain out your Yonah chips in the next two months then bump you up to Merom" or something like that.

The Intel-Apple partnership is looking good so I think it is very unlikely Apple will be left with its thumb up its a$$ sitting on a whole mountain of outdated Yonahs. Wow. My imagery is quite stunning, no?
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Originally posted by furious_
Something that scares me about apple is . . . they do not have a budget line to rid themselves of excess stock, of Yonah chips if they wanted to use Merom, and Conroe. Dell has the dimension 1000 series and small business line.

Do you think they will just push Yonah down to the Mini and eMac? This would make sense.

I'd like to see Apple broaden out their product line - but if they simply chose to sell superceded MacBook Pros with a 20% discount until they sold out, I'm sure they'd sell easily.
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Originally posted by 1984
Obviously they kept the basic PowerBook G4 enclosure for the MacBook Pro because they were in a rush to get the Intel transition moving. I'm sure they have been working on a new enclosure for it along side the MacBook so hopefully they are now ready to use it. On the other hand Merom is pin compatible so they could just take the easy way out.

I don't think they kept the MacBook Pro enclosure because they were in a rush... it just doesn't make sense.

However, I do think there's a good chance of a new enclosure coming along. Apple kept the enclosures the same for ALL their products' Intel switch (so far)... and the average consumer felt just that little bit safer (IMO). That's not required in the 2nd generation.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by fuyutsuki
"Originally posted by Steve Jobs
Apparently Michael Smell himself called Billy Boy last night and chewed his ass but good. And you know what? You think this is bad? Q3 and Q4 are gonna look like downtown Beirut compared to this. These morons have nothing to sell."



ROFLMAO The Beirut reference is so not politically correct but funny as hell... Sigh. Waiting on Vista to show up to drive PC sales is like waiting for your kickboxing- marathon-running great-grand-aunt to die so you can pick up some inheritance. Vista is going to be, if not already, the most constipated piece of overpromised bloatware ever to come out of Redmond. Even if Michael Dell was really riding Bill's ass hard, Dell's not going to make thing go any faster, are they?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sunilraman
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The Beirut reference is so not politically correct but funny as hell...

Yeah... I'd have preferred something like "are gonna look like the World Trade Center on 9/12/2001".
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Originally posted by philby
Yeah... I'd have preferred something like "are gonna look like the World Trade Center on 9/12/2001".

Hey it wasn't me, it was "Steve" who said it. He can be quite colourful at times.
http://secretdiaryofstevejobs.blogspot.com/

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Better cooling system - is water cooling possible in a notebook?

Did we get a PowerBook G5 last year? Do the radiators go on the back of the screen? How about the asbestos layer on the palm rests? Somehow, I think if it were possible we would have seen it, and SOMETHING serious had to be behind the move to higher performance per watt as the mantra of the Intel transition. So, in a word: hell no. In a sentence: a Christmas general release for Vista, and PlayStation 3's coming with Leopard preinstalled are both more likely.
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I don't think they kept the MacBook Pro enclosure because they were in a rush... it just doesn't make sense.

However, I do think there's a good chance of a new enclosure coming along. Apple kept the enclosures the same for ALL their products' Intel switch (so far)... and the average consumer felt just that little bit safer (IMO). That's not required in the 2nd generation.

DOH! MacBook!

Also MBP was apparently 3mm thinner! Which apparently is really important.....


New MBP must have replaceable HD's for me - to keep up with spanky MB's. Perhaps, after countless hours of re-engineerig they put back the 3mm width the DL burning and the FW800..?... But give buyers the Black option...
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Originally posted by OfficerDigby
DOH! MacBook!

Also MBP was apparently 3mm thinner! Which apparently is really important.....

It also grew 11mm and 3mm in size.
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New MBP must have replaceable HD's for me - to keep up with spanky MB's. Perhaps, after countless hours of re-engineerig they put back the 3mm width the DL burning and the FW800..?...

Indeed, would be nice to have a better enginered and more feature rich MacBook Pro.
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But give buyers the Black option...

As in "Black anodized aluminium" or as in "Black plastics"?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by fuyutsuki
Hey it wasn't me, it was "Steve" who said it. He can be quite colourful at times.
http://secretdiaryofstevejobs.blogspot.com/


"Steve" is on a roll. FINALLLY someone else talks about WHAT A PIECE OF ABSOLUTE GARBAGE Lotus Notes is. And I just read up about "Groove" (http://www.microsoft.com/office/groove/default.mspx)

"Ray Ozzie. Uh, right.
Don't get me wrong. I like the guy. But the moment I knew that Microsoft was truly doomed was when they announced they were putting Ozzie in charge. Hello, Microsoft? Have you looked at a calendar lately? You do realize that the year is 2006? Now you've got Mr. Lotus Notes who's gonna drag you kicking and screaming into the 1980s. I mean, Notes was a cool product -- in 1985. But do you not realize that your own marketing people have spent the past 10 years telling everyone what a bloated horrible piece of shizzle Notes is? And Groove. Man. Don't get me started. What is it? Who the frig knows? Oh, the CIA uses it to track bad guys. Great. There's a good reference customer for you. The guys who a) don't talk to the press; and b) have basically frigged up everything they've touched in the past 5 years. Microsoft, you need someone more evil in charge. Like Charles Wang of CA. I'm pretty sure he's not going to jail."

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"Steve Jobs" reveals more: "Then, like two months ago, or whenever they announced that Vista is gonna slip into 2007 -- and believe me, we're talking waaaaay into 2007 -- I set up a meeting with Gates and I'm like, Dude, I've got OS X working on an Intel processor. Why don't you just drop this piece of crap Vista code base and just roll over to OS X? Forget the OS business and move up the stack into ERP apps or whatever. I mean, I've got it right here, Unix based, solid as a friggin rock, nice user interface, all wrapped up with a bow on it, I've even ported it to Intel for you, I mean what more do I have to do? It's like I'm teetering next to you at the bar in my miniskirt and high heels and opening one button after another on my blouse and telling you, Dude, I am soooooo wasted, let's go to your place and take some Roofies -- and you just don't friggin get it! I mean, you've got thousands of drones slaving away trying to make a knock-off of my operating system! Why? I'll friggin give it to you, okay? Or not quite give but you know. The dollars can work themselves out, as my friend Michael Ovitz (who totally loves our new MacBook Pro) likes to say. Gates just sat there rocking back and forth in his chair and then said in this really low voice that he was gonna stick to Windows. I thought maybe he was gonna cry. Because it was clear that he knew how frigged he is. I mean, he's seen the code. He knows it won't run. I swear, I felt almost sorry for him. Almost."
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The best part is that he tries to get the line "I invented the friggin iPod, OK? Have you heard of it? I thought so." slipped in seamlessly in almost every post.

Okay, last one from the blog, I swear.

"And I have a totally cool house and no, you cannot come over, in fact you cannot even know where my house is located, and I have so much money that I can't even remember how much of it there is, but it's a lot, not that I care, because I don't, I could wipe my ass with hundred dollar bills and not even care, that's how little I care about money. And in fact I actually did that once. The ass thing, I mean. Seriously. I used to feel guilty about how much money I have because there is just so friggin much of it, but one day I was meditating and I'm sitting there moaning my syllable or whatever and it occurs to me that, Shit, man, guilt is just, like, this huge energy blocker and it's just so totally negative and it just really frigs up your creativity, which is what I'm all about, in fact, is the creativity. So then I just opened my eyes and came out of my trance and I said, out loud, in this really booming voice, to this imaginary like critic guy that I imagined was standing there criticizing me for having too much money or whatever, I just shouted right at him, as loud as I could: Frig you, ass-munch, because I'm smarter than you, and I deserve this. And you know that? It felt friggin great. It was liberating. Two days later I woke up and invented iTunes. True story."
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I hope the Merom MBP has an updated design. It needs:

Magnetic Latch (like MB)
DL Superdrive across the line
FW800
Better video card - X1900???
Better cooling system - is water cooling possible in a notebook?
Bigger HDD's (100gb, 120gb, 160gb)
More battery life

I hope Apple reduces the power usage to 75 watts, instead of the current 85 watts - for airplane use.

Many of these can be implemented without any design change.

I'm sure someone should be making a slim enough DL superdrive by now Apple more than likely is just not using it yet.

They would only need to add FW 800 to the board.

The MBP runs no hotter than any other laptop with the same form factor and same processor.

The possible problem with the better video card is battery life and heat.

It would be difficult to use a faster CPU and faster GPU and lower the power usage. These are contradictory goals.
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