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post #41 of 97
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Originally Posted by maimezvous

You should totally do it. I think it would be amazing. What is your plan for you future? You're about the same age as me right?

Heading into junior year here. I'm not really into the whole dying young thing yet.
post #42 of 97
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Originally Posted by Placebo

I wish I wanted to be a dentist, would make my life a whole lot easier. But no, I want to be a game designer or fighter pilot!

I wanted to be a doctor. I got into med school in Australia. But then I decided that seeing sick people all the time sucked b*lls. So I did a final year in *medical research*. Then I decided that killing mice everyday and doing repetitive lab work in a biohazardous environment sucked b*lls. Actually all along I wanted to be an astronaut, not through flying (fighter pilot would be cool) but through mission specialists - such as phDs who were doctors as well.

Then in 1999 final year of uni I thought f**k all this shit, I haven't even kissed a girl. End of 1999, okay, sorted. Then 2000-2004 got into web design, project management some web advertising design. Burnt out end of 2004. 2005 did 3 months of lecturing Interactive Media (Flash and conceptual interactive design) to Diploma/Degree-graphicdesign-programme kids out of high skool.

Somewhere in there I wanted to be a Trance music producer/ performer.

Yeah, F**K passion and following your dreams, I wish I just wanted to be an accountant. Would make my life whole lot easier and you're bloody employable no matter how good or bad businesses are doing.

Boo hoo. Maim, do you really really want to be a dentist and look at people's mouths all day 5 days a week 350 days a year every year for at least the next 15 years of your life?

Apologies for the "downish" nature of my post.
post #43 of 97
I sure hope you've kissed a girl by now.
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post #44 of 97
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Originally Posted by Placebo

I'm not really into the whole dying young thing yet.

I'm 28. If the time comes, I say, let's go. But actually it's just the part in between starting to die and actually dying that's very scary.
post #45 of 97
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Originally Posted by midwinter

I sure hope you've kissed a girl by now.

Oh, done much much more since the tragedy of 1999 and before. Other priorities now like supportive partner, sustainable career, enlightenment, etc. Not starting a family though.
post #46 of 97
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Yeah, I do actually want to be a dentist. I'm very sure. I love people and science. Dentistry seems the right balance of both for me.
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post #47 of 97
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Originally Posted by Placebo

Heading into junior year here. I'm not really into the whole dying young thing yet.

I didn't realize that you were a year below me. I was under the impression for awhile that you were older. Has school not started for you yet?
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post #48 of 97
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Originally Posted by maimezvous

Yeah, I do actually want to be a dentist. I'm very sure. I love people and science. Dentistry seems the right balance of both for me.

Dentistry? Science? PFFT muah hah ha hah hh a ...Ignore me. To me Science is stuff like quantum physics, or molecular biology. Flossing or pulling out wisdom teeth isn't a Science.

BTW have you all come up with a marching band version of Sexyback? http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...92911&s=143441

post #49 of 97
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

Dentistry? Science? PFFT muah hah ha hah hh a ...Ignore me. To me Science is stuff like quantum physics, or molecular biology. Flossing or pulling out wisdom teeth isn't a Science.

BTW have you all come up with a marching band version of Sexyback? http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...92911&s=143441


You are ridiculous sunil. Molecular biology isn't hard. Besides I don't want to just pull out and floss teeth. I really want to eventually get into endodontics and just do root canals all day. Root canals are amazing. I've had two done on myself and I enjoyed every bit of it. Especially the painkillers.
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post #50 of 97
Heh. I got nothing to say... except Sexyback is going to be the opening song as Steve comes on stage for the Sep 12 event....!!! ARGHGHGH can't get the song out of my head and it's bloody CONSTANTLY on the radio.
post #51 of 97
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Originally Posted by maimezvous

I didn't realize that you were a year below me. I was under the impression for awhile that you were older. Has school not started for you yet?

It started on September 6th for me.
post #52 of 97
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

I wanted to be a doctor. I got into med school in Australia. But then I decided that seeing sick people all the time sucked b*lls. So I did a final year in *medical research*. Then I decided that killing mice everyday and doing repetitive lab work in a biohazardous environment sucked b*lls. Actually all along I wanted to be an astronaut, not through flying (fighter pilot would be cool) but through mission specialists - such as phDs who were doctors as well.

Then in 1999 final year of uni I thought f**k all this shit, I haven't even kissed a girl. End of 1999, okay, sorted. Then 2000-2004 got into web design, project management some web advertising design. Burnt out end of 2004. 2005 did 3 months of lecturing Interactive Media (Flash and conceptual interactive design) to Diploma/Degree-graphicdesign-programme kids out of high skool.

Somewhere in there I wanted to be a Trance music producer/ performer.

Yeah, F**K passion and following your dreams, I wish I just wanted to be an accountant. Would make my life whole lot easier and you're bloody employable no matter how good or bad businesses are doing.

Boo hoo. Maim, do you really really want to be a dentist and look at people's mouths all day 5 days a week 350 days a year every year for at least the next 15 years of your life?

Apologies for the "downish" nature of my post.

Im nearly 31, and still I have the same thoughts that i did when i was 16 wondering what it is that I want to do in life. I still dont know - and I guess I never will. I've often wished i was dumb and shallow like everyone else and just did the same things everyone else does, I'd probably be doing quite well, have a wife and a few kids, a house and a nice car. But I know now, that I wouldn't be happy unless I was borderline schizo and fighting my was out of a corner everyday.
post #53 of 97
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

Heh. I got nothing to say... except Sexyback is going to be the opening song as Steve comes on stage for the Sep 12 event....!!! ARGHGHGH can't get the song out of my head and it's bloody CONSTANTLY on the radio.

You're the one who wanted it back, man.
post #54 of 97
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Originally Posted by maimezvous

Yeah, I do actually want to be a dentist. I'm very sure. I love people and science. Dentistry seems the right balance of both for me.

Have you ever spent a day in a dental office shadowing a dentist? You really should. It's very enlightening to see the profession from the othe side. BTW you've got plenty of time to decide. Get a good basic science background while in college, no matter what your major is. It's helpful to have a biology or chemisry major from college but not necessary. If you have any other questions about dentisry PM me, I'm an oral surgeon.
post #55 of 97
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Originally Posted by gregmightdothat

You're the one who wanted it back, man.

Honestly I still have no fracking clue what the song is about. Particularly when watching the music video - it's like who's sexy is needed back? Looks like everyone is having sex (well the lightcore-porn style of music videos these days) including JT himself. My sexy is okay, just need to have a bit of a shave this morning
post #56 of 97
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Originally Posted by MarcUK

Im nearly 31, and still I have the same thoughts that i did when i was 16 wondering what it is that I want to do in life. I still dont know - and I guess I never will. I've often wished i was dumb and shallow like everyone else and just did the same things everyone else does, I'd probably be doing quite well, have a wife and a few kids, a house and a nice car. But I know now, that I wouldn't be happy unless I was borderline schizo and fighting my was out of a corner everyday.

I understand you very much. I had a comfortable upbringing, full scholarship for Year/Grade 7 to 10 at a good boarding school in Singapore. Then final year of high skool and 4 years of university, all paid for by my parents, with my pocket money coming from some tutoring to first- and second- year students at university and part-time web design and Cold Fusion (old skool man - CFML and MSAccess DB)

After my major depression in 1999, since then yeah, I've enjoyed fighting my way everyday - to stay "afloat". But it got too intense and took its toll, with my bipolar eventually getting to me in a big way.

I don't think people that do the "normal thing" in their late 20s and early/mid-30s are "dumb and shallow". I've seen them, and I've seen them happy and quite settled. I've also seen people like you and me, and if you thrive and are happy with a high level of challenges, that's cool too.

Certainly some 30-something career-women that I've worked with, they seem to be cool without a man or baby in their life, and 30-something men on the career track or particularly living in major cities, have a partner or are dating around - don't start families till their late late 30s or early 40s.

It is stunning to me that people can settle in and do something same all the time, looks like you have been moving around quite a bit in terms of jobs?

For me it's weird, I guess I've always been a bit of an idiot savant, that I can get into something if it strikes me, but the interest does not hold, and overall in terms of regular jobs, besides the 4+ years of getting in the groove of web design, I eventually burnt out of it and now I feel sooo left behind in terms of IT and stuff. With the medication now or just stress I do feel a bit "dumbed" down actually so maybe I soon will streamline into those boring people who do their one job day in day out and have a family and stuff. Maybe this is the "next life" for me, the next level of my spiritual growth - being "boring"

Good luck mate.
post #57 of 97
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So what do you do now sunilraman?
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post #58 of 97
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Originally Posted by maimezvous

So what do you do now sunilraman?

Hi, I can't say too much about this year at this stage, except that I've been trying to get better, and be useful, while living with my parents. This year I have been through a few different treatments for my bipolar disorder, after a not so successful course of treatments with a different psychiatrist in 2005.

The meaningful thing that I've been happy to achieve is to help my parents in Malaysia sort out a lot of their Australian interests - visa, tax and property. The place I was staying in while I was at university in Brisbane, Australia is now done-up and on the market, to be auctioned on the 30th of this month:

http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin...687&c=65892213



Currently I will be in Australia for a while as I have a residency visa here, which can be renewed for another 5 years in a few months time. However my parents and I are waiting for the property to be sold and settled over the next month or so.

I aim to try and look for some part-time work here in Melbourne in the meantime, though this may still be a challenge.
post #59 of 97
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That's cool. My horn teacher is bi-polar and he is going through a very rough bit right now, because his wife left him a few weeks ago. I think I might look into it a little bit so I know more of what's going on. Do you know of any good sites that I can get good information from? I also hope that you keep getting better.
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post #60 of 97
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Originally Posted by Placebo

I wish I wanted to be a dentist, would make my life a whole lot easier. But no, I want to be a game designer or fighter pilot!

really? me too... But after taking flight physiology I decided to be a game designer. ( or programmer in general, because I am most interested in developing good gui for programs ).
post #61 of 97
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Originally Posted by maimezvous

That's cool. My horn teacher is bi-polar and he is going through a very rough bit right now, because his wife left him a few weeks ago. I think I might look into it a little bit so I know more of what's going on. Do you know of any good sites that I can get good information from? I also hope that you keep getting better.

Thanks. This Australian site is a good starting off point.
http://www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx?link_id=91

It has basic information and then a lot of links to global sites.

I have read up some on bipolar but I'm not going to read too much too fast 'coz I might psych myself into thinking certain things that might not be relevant to me.

But if you do read it up I am in the "rapid cycling" or "mixed episodes" type. That's so far what I read up and also what I looked into with my new medication I am on since Feb 2006.

Sorry to hear that about your horn teacher. Wife leaving and all that, not good. Hope he gets extra(?) treatment soon or is already on good medication. He may have to take a break from work, though music is very therapeutic.
post #62 of 97
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Ok, I found my SAT scores. 1160 combined math and english (the old scoring way that most people are used to.) I think somebody mentioned early that 1200 is what you need to be a shoe in for college. I also found out my GPA. Right now it's 3.085, but I can raise it by just talking to the AP Biology teacher I had last year. Since I earned a 5 on the AP test she will raise my first semester grade to an A, effectively raising my GPA to around 3.1. Anyway, my question this time is what requirements do I need to meet to receive student loans and gov't grants? There is no way I will be able to get through college without scholarships and loans.
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post #63 of 97
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Just as an update for everyone that took interest in this thread, I was just accepted into IU. I'm absolutely ecstatic. This week has been great.
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post #64 of 97
Indiana??

Congrats dude. Seriously... 8)

I hope you give the same effort as your last year in high school at IU for your entire career there. You have a fresh new start now. But don't worry, you'll have fun regardless. My motto I took out of college was, "Work hard. Play harder."
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post #65 of 97
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It is stunning to me that people can settle in and do something same all the time, looks like you have been moving around quite a bit in terms of jobs?

Good luck mate.

I think I'm going to be due a new job shortly, on Sunday, I wrote my boss a 14 page grievance letter and handed it to him monday morning.

So far there has been no responce
post #66 of 97
I would pay to see that greivance letter...
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post #67 of 97
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Indiana??

Congrats dude. Seriously... 8)

I hope you give the same effort as your last year in high school at IU for your entire career there. You have a fresh new start now. But don't worry, you'll have fun regardless. My motto I took out of college was, "Work hard. Play harder."

Thanks! That's sound advice too. I've enjoyed working harder this year actually. I managed to ace my AP Chem final. That is the only one I was worried about. I can't wait for next year.
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post #68 of 97
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I would pay to see that greivance letter...

I don't know if I would pay, but I sure would love to read it.
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post #69 of 97
Congrats. Now you get to cultivate your taste in Ramen.
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post #70 of 97
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Originally Posted by Guybrush Threepwood View Post

I would pay to see that greivance letter...

you can have a paragraph from it for free, I'll look through it and see if I can find some more. Obviously I've had to edit out some names.

While I welcome constructive or genuine concerns about improving working practice, as has all too often been the case with XXX, XXX will only hear what he wants to hear, and incessantly keeps asking the same questions over and over, while demonstrating little comprehension of what he is being told or how machinery works, despite reasonable and satisfactory answers being given. This is not the first time I have had to explain my working practice over and over again. It is a shame that he generally holds such contempt for myself and other staffs judgements and capabilities that we need a Spanish inquisition every time he looks at a job. All of the above has already been calculated and planned by myself through intelligence, judgement and testing years ago, and was deemed to be the most effective way of producing, by myself, explained by myself to YYY (previous boss -edited) and we were all satisfied that this was the best way to continue. XXX has nothing to offer to the working practise, except foolish criticism.
post #71 of 97
just incase you are thinking I am being an arse, here's a snippet where I outlined the consequences of my bosses behavior over the last 6 months. Names edited XXX is the one I have a grievance with.

Regardless of his opinion of whether YYY had been a successful MD or not, the quarrel over the financial situation, and how the company had been running, should have started and ended with XXX and YYY. Unfortunately, we then experienced several months of extremely unreasonable behavior by XXX, where instead of conducting himself properly as required by law, or even as common sense would suggest, he proceeded to be rude and abrasive to everyone and the general operational conditions were severely compromised by his abusive actions. This resulted in the book keeper AAA reduced to tears through no fault of her own and she resigned. BBB, the receptionist couldn't stand to work with him and resigned, even after several times I personally asked her to stay and see out this difficult period. He unlawfully fired CCC, and subsequently lost an employment tribunal because he followed ill advice from the manager DDD in making false accusations, including theft, and subsequently couldn't be bothered to follow correct lawful procedure to dismiss someone, or even reply to the lawyers representing CCC in his tribunal. The replacement book keeper was fired because of incompetance, the replacement receptionist left through ill health. The third replacement book keeper left after 2-3 weeks telling me she couldn't stand XXX or YYY, and was subsequently accused of theft. The driver EEE left unexpectedly citing reasons that XXX has kept to himself, but EEE made it clear to me at least ,that the behavior of XXX and YYY was absurd and unreasonable. The replacement driver FFF left after an argument with YYY, the works manager DDD resigned after his holiday telling me that he couldn't face seeing YYY anymore, and was none too impressed with XXX conduct. And XXX had an argument with FFF which resulted in him resigning instantly. More recently GGG resigned at least with some dignity. Which just leaves myself and HHH, yet another Book Keeper, XXX and YYY, to operate a company that was previously staffed by at least 10.
post #72 of 97
Next time I see you I will give you a dollar.

Wait, no. Better yet a Euro.

Nope, not even that. Even better a Guiness...

P.S. I am sorry you have such a shitty boss.
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Next time I see you I will give you a dollar.

Wait, no. Better yet a Euro.

Nope, not even that. Even better a Guiness...

P.S. I am sorry you have such a shitty boss.

I might be needing a dollar next time we meet.....
post #74 of 97
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P.S. I am sorry you have such a shitty boss.

I think deep down I want to be sacked - or fired as you call it. I originally promised my previous boss, YYY, that I would stay with the company for 5 years, that was 4 years and 11 months ago, and because he was the loveliest man you could hope to meet, im determined to stay for the duration of my promise. Unfortunately, he left last Feb, because he had a nervous breakdown following several meeting with my new boss, when things were not going so well for the company. He had been there for 15 years and basically turned it into what it is/was. There was a very bad reaction in our field as a result of the oil/energy price hikes during 2005/2006 and things went wrong quite quickly, through little fault of my previous boss imo. Unfortunately, when XXX got wind of this - he is the owner of the company, albeit not involved, and YYY was acting director on his behalf, he came down and basically crucified YYY.

He is the biggest ass I have ever met.
post #75 of 97
You don't seem like the type to just take it though. I'm surprised you've waited this long and all you're doing is writing a letter.

I figured you would of crucified this guy yourself in front of everyone.
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You don't seem like the type to just take it though. I'm surprised you've waited this long and all you're doing is writing a letter.

I figured you would of crucified this guy yourself in front of everyone.

Im probably not quite the person in real life as I come across here sometimes. Though I did let rip once when a fundie told me I couldn't play my CD's at work because they were immoral! Infact, I blame it on the person who taught me about 'philosophical reflection'. You bad man, you know who you are I have been trying very hard to find something positive, anything, to keep things together under testing circumstances.

In writing this letter, I may well have the last laugh. It would be too easy to let one rip, but that would be the easy way out, and the outcome is likely to achieve nothing more than me getting fired with no recompense, because my actions might be deemed as gross misconduct. I dont know how it works in the US, but here, if you write a letter of grievance, it has legally, to be taken very seriously, especially with the claims I have been making. - and there is a set procedure for dealing with them, which if an employer doesn't follow, can be taken to court for and basically lose a claim by default.

I doubt XXX takes it as more than a joke, I am off work soon for 6 weeks, in which time I will have surpassed my promise, and then basically I will let rip, but Im going to do it smartly, through the correct procedure through the court.

Considering I am now carrying the whole fortune of this whole company on my shoulders, a resignation by me and subsequent win at the court, will be the end of XXX and his company. XXX must know this, but firstly, I dont think he realizes the gravity of what procedure I have set off by writing the grievance letter and im guessing he thinks I dont have the balls.

If I go in tomorrow and get fired, i just dont care. I cant really be fired, because a) it will end up in court, and b) I am too valuable to him. So whatever the outcome, we'll likely to be ending up in court, and there he stands little chance. Even if I lost that, I still win, because I simply just dont care. Without me, he basically cannot operate this company, so his hands are very much tied at the moment.

Sadly, he has basically bought all this upon himself through his own actions.

Though it would be much more fun to let rip in typical AppleInsider style

PS. I was in a 'playful' mood today, I noticed one of our machines had collected a bit of a covering of aluminium dust, in which I drew a 3 foot 'penis'. Like I said, I just dont care.
post #77 of 97
I dunno, maimezvous, are you sure you want to be a dentist?

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For me it's weird, I guess I've always been a bit of an idiot savant, that I can get into something if it strikes me, but the interest does not hold, and overall in terms of regular jobs, besides the 4+ years of getting in the groove of web design, I eventually burnt out of it and now I feel sooo left behind in terms of IT and stuff. With the medication now or just stress I do feel a bit "dumbed" down actually so maybe I soon will streamline into those boring people who do their one job day in day out and have a family and stuff. Maybe this is the "next life" for me, the next level of my spiritual growth - being "boring"

I've gotten into quite a few things to the point of obsession, when my grandfather died at 16, i was left a bit of money, and decided I wanted to get into music production, I had an uncle who played in bands in clubs and stuff, and thought he was pretty cool. I dropped out of school, I was an A+ student, knowing nothing about music, bought myself some kit, held down a few crappy part time jobs to keep the money coming in for more kit, and built myself a recording studio. I did this religiously for about 4 years, spending 6-8 hours a day just learning the craft, dossing at jobs and barely keeping out of trouble from my father. Well infact I was always in trouble with him, but hey!

Then one day I got a demo of Cinema4d, and for no apparent reason, decided to buy the app, completely forgot about the music, sold all the kit, and spent years playing with 4d.

Then I just stopped, then I found this place and met a few people, and got involved in 'religious' debates, and went off for a few years and read as much as I could, concluded that Jesus is a cunt, Then that just fizzled out.

What to do now? I have Cubase sitting here a load of soft synths, but cannot be bothered to install it, I've half installed 4d, but cant be bothered, and Osiris looks about as appealing as a cold wet rag.

My boss is a fucking hole, and yet Im sat here feeling happy and glad that things have been this way.

Contemplating the future, over Christmas, I met a friend from school who I haven't seen for like 10 years, and found out that he's been making bukkake porn movies. So im sat here thinking to myself, what the fuck, just do it.
post #79 of 97
For the record, don't google bukkake while at work.
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Congrats!
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