Originally Posted by aegisdesign
What? I quoted you figures for the UK as an example that it will grow from 7% to 20% THIS YEAR. That's nearly 200% growth in market share in a market that's exploding.
I said that you changed, because your first statement was that in the rest of the world more songs are sold through phones than through the iPod/iTunes combo, which is not true for most of the world.
I agree about Japan. But it's been a short time for Apple and iTunes, and Apple's sales have jumped as well. So have iPod sales, so we'll just have to see what happens there. But, remenber that the number is from 2005, before iTunes really got off the ground. I'd like to know the numbers at the end of 2006. I'm sure it's pretty different.
But that same report shows that 40% of the digital song revenue is from mobile phones—with MOST of that being song ring tones, not real song buying. So that doesn't really count.
They will converge as phone capabilities improve.
Of course they will. That's why Apple has to do something that is better than what the phone companies are doing in that area, which is not much.
And you get them.... a decade later. I've been able to use my phone as a modem since my Ericsson GS18 in 96/97.
As I've said, they are different markets. Most people here haven't been interested in this feature until recently, so now they are being accommodated.
I've never heard of a a carrier disabling a feature and the talk on the net of 'Will Verizon/Cinqular/etc allow an iPhone?' is frankly puzzling to us Europeans. It's just not a question that would come up, ever.[quote]
I'm sure that question will come up. European Governments are very protective of their home grown corporations. You can see it in the merger agreements that have been stopped, particularly when American companies are the principal factor. Same thing is true for products. I've seen that over the years as well.
Do you really think that the French would have put that law through if it was a French company that was involved, rather thas Apple? I doubt it very much.
Text messaging is a classic example where in the US you couldn't send a message to someone else on a different network and IIRC at one point people had to pay to receive messages?
No wonder it isn't popular.
But, cell calls were cheaper here than elsewhere for a long time, especially than those in Japan where calls were very expensive until reletively recently. That's why they came out with texting in the first place. It uses less network bandwidth, so it was a less expensive alternative to calls. No one here needed that, so it wasn't offered. Only when the Japanese craze started here amongst kids did texting gain interest a few years ago. The networks had to add it on as an extra servive that they weren't set-up to offer, so some of them (not all) charge extra. But those charges are disappearing, ironically, just as the interest in the service is waning.
This never comes up in Europe. You get a PAC code from your phone company, pass that to your new phone company and that's it. Costs nothing, same phone, same number, takes a couple of hours.
It hardly matters anymore, though it was a pisser when it did. All of that is, or has, changed. Most people here would rather get a new phone anyway than change a card on an old phone.
What do you think we do badly/strangely?
Well, that's a whole 'nother conversation.
Not really. Europe has been one market for quite a long time, unless you're Apple or the music industry who seem happy to ignore EC rules.
On the phone front, the whole of Europe uses one phone standard so a phone bought in Italy will work with a Portuguese carrier with an Irish SIM card accessing a French music sales company.
By different markets, I mean the whole language, cultural, political situation that makes it so difficult to get licensing for almost any business. The phone companies have one technical standard, but everything else is broken down into different pricing markets, etc. You can't buy some items in one country at the same equivalent price in another, etc. Auto buying is a mess, etc.
I had some German engineers working on a major machine installation for me. They were telling me that when they come to the US, they buy as much as they can, and send it back, because pricing is so much less here, because of VAT and local laws as to how much something is allowed to sell for as opposed to the same item in another country.