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post #1 of 42
8/1/02 at 6:32pm
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Coming from the PC world, very few PC users I know user Photoshop. Most use the different hodgepodge of photo editing programs that's available for Windows or whatever that came with their camera, scanner, etc.

Here in the Mac world, it seems everyone uses Photoshop! Wouldn't it be a bit feature-rich for everyday use if you are not in the graphics biz? And where do you guys get it from as I do not want to pay the $$$ for it and don't feel right pirating it? What are other low cost or free alternatives to PS?

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post #2 of 42
8/1/02 at 6:39pm
Photoshop Elements for $99 is coming out for X in a few weeks.

But yes, Photoshop has got to be the most pirated software in Macdom.
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post #3 of 42
8/1/02 at 6:41pm
[quote]Coming from the PC world, very few PC users I know user Photoshop. Most use the different hodgepodge of photo editing programs that's available for Windows or whatever that came with their camera, scanner, etc. <hr></blockquote>

I know so many PC users that use Photoshop! Like heaps on them!

[quote] Here in the Mac world, it seems everyone uses Photoshop! Wouldn't it be a bit feature-rich for everyday use if you are not in the graphics biz? And where do you guys get it from as I do not want to pay the $$$ for it and don't feel right pirating it? What are other low cost or free alternatives to PS? <hr></blockquote>

Perhaps something like the Corel version of Photoshop or perhaps Photoshop elements (????) may be an option but I think the best option would be Graphic Converter its a very good application and allows you to edit and save in what ever format you wish!
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post #4 of 42
8/1/02 at 6:45pm
Off the top of my head:

<a href="http://www.microfrontier.com/" target="_blank">ColorIt!</a> (Shareware, $49.95)

<a href="http://www.caffeinesoft.com/products/pnh/pnh_index.html" target="_blank">PixelNHance</a> (Freeware)

<a href="http://www.lemkesoft.de/us_gcabout.html" target="_blank">GraphicConverter</a> (Shareware, $35, free updates)

<a href="http://www.macgimp.org" target="_blank">MacGIMP</a> (Freeware, or $29.95 for a CD - requires X Windows)

Also, Adobe offers <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopel/main.html" target="_blank">Photoshop Elements</a> (Commercial, $99).

Pricier options:

Deneba's Swiss-army-knife <a href="http://www.deneba.com/products/canvas8/default2.html" target="_blank">Canvas</a> (Commercial, $349.95)

CaffeineSoft's <a href="http://www.caffeinesoft.com/products/tiffany/tiffany_index.html" target="_blank">TIFFany</a> (Shareware, $111 - $444 depending on version)

Stone Design's <a href="http://www.stone.com/Create/Create.html" target="_blank">Create</a> (Timed shareware, $149)

Corel's <a href="http://www3.corel.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=Corel/Product/Details&id=CC1ZZSACD11" target="_blank">CorelDRAW</a> (Commercial, $399)

[all prices are in US dollars]

I've been a Mac user since 1986, and I've never owned Photoshop. It is true, however, that a lot more Mac users than PC users depend on it, because of the Mac presence in the graphics profession.

Welcome aboard.

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post #5 of 42
8/1/02 at 7:00pm
I use it at work for at a photography studio...also at home for average work because it so useful. I have to say even if you are just making cd labels its the best!
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post #6 of 42
8/1/02 at 7:09pm
Photoshop is awesome, indeed. I still have to upgrade to the OS X version, though.

I know that some major discounts are available through education pricing. Try checking that out if you are eligible or know someone who is...
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post #7 of 42
8/1/02 at 7:14pm
Just got Photoshop 7. Has anybody tried Deneba Canvas 8? I don't think Photoshop is really what I'm looking for to do my stuff and I have no experience with it. Maybe I should get Illustrator or Canvas.
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post #8 of 42
8/1/02 at 7:14pm
Adobe seems to have implemented a near-floolproof anti-piracy scheme with version 7.

All serials have to be checked with a central server. Skipping it is not an option. Apparently, it is impossible to find a serial out there that will work.

I think this will have a major impact on the number of Mac users who run Photoshop.

And no, I do not run Photoshop. Though I always wanted to create the kind of Photoshops you see at SomethingAwful.

I hope someday I'll get 70 billion dollars and be able to use it.
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post #9 of 42
8/1/02 at 8:03pm
Yeah, every person I know that has a Mac has a pirated version of Photoshop, even if they don't use it at all. I actually have a copy on my computer because I backed up someone elses computer while they did a reformat, and they had a copy on their drive. Gives me two errors when I start it saying something is missing, reinstall, blah, blah. But it works anyway. I usually just use Graphic Converter though.
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post #10 of 42
8/1/02 at 8:04pm
[quote]Originally posted by DoctorGonzo:
<strong>Adobe seems to have implemented a near-floolproof anti-piracy scheme with version 7.

All serials have to be checked with a central server. Skipping it is not an option. Apparently, it is impossible to find a serial out there that will work.

I think this will have a major impact on the number of Mac users who run Photoshop.

And no, I do not run Photoshop. Though I always wanted to create the kind of Photoshops you see at SomethingAwful.

I hope someday I'll get 70 billion dollars and be able to use it.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Give it time you will see a crack out I am sure. Although I have yet to get a PS7 for OSX to work on my computer and I have tried many times, I just gave up I figure if I really want it I will just go buy it.
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post #11 of 42
8/1/02 at 8:07pm
no, you can crack 7..... i wont say how though cause i think thats a bootable offense.
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post #12 of 42
8/1/02 at 8:23pm
Cecil is right.

Talking *about* piracy is okay, but helping other members with piracy is strictly verboten.

Be careful, guys. We're watching.
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post #13 of 42
8/1/02 at 8:29pm
[quote]Adobe seems to have implemented a near-floolproof anti-piracy scheme with version 7.

All serials have to be checked with a central server. Skipping it is not an option. Apparently, it is impossible to find a serial out there that will work.<hr></blockquote>

Um, that's not true (and I didn't have to use a crack either )...
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post #14 of 42
8/1/02 at 8:56pm
[quote]Originally posted by klinux:
<strong>Here in the Mac world, it seems everyone uses Photoshop!</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, it's not the whole Mac world, just the Future Hardware forum
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post #15 of 42
8/1/02 at 9:11pm
[quote]Cecil is right.

Talking *about* piracy is okay, but helping other members with piracy is strictly verboten.

Be careful, guys. We're watching.<hr></blockquote>

Don't worry about me, I've just always known about the rampant piracy of Photoshop and was surprised to hear that Adobe might actually be able to curtail it after so many years.

"The warezd copy of Photoshop" has become somewhat of a comic cliche in the Mac community.
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post #16 of 42
8/1/02 at 11:06pm
if people you know dont use photoshop, you arent hanging around the right people.

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post #17 of 42
8/2/02 at 12:00am
Photoshop is the industry standard. Others have tried to compete with it, but have failed. Anyone here remembers LivePicture or xRes??

I can't even think of any other program that can compete with it today. Maybe Macromedia Fireworks if you're doing only web graphics.

So for what it does I think it's very reasonably priced. Version 6 sucked, used 5.5 until 7 came out and it rocks.
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post #18 of 42
8/2/02 at 12:15am
Actually, there's a new kid on the block and it's called PhotoRetouch. It does colourcorrection/modification and retouchework better than Photoshop, and easier too. Mind you, it's not cheap, but in this case you really get what you pay for.

<a href="http://www.binuscan.com/us/prp/" target="_blank">PhotoRetouch</a>

You can also read about it on the Apple site: <a href="http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/imaging_3d/photoretouchpro.html" target="_blank">here</a>

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post #19 of 42
8/2/02 at 12:37am
[quote]Originally posted by macanoid:
<strong>Actually, there's a new kid on the block and it's called PhotoRetouch. It does colourcorrection/modification and retouchework better than Photoshop, and easier too. Mind you, it's not cheap, but in this case you really get what you pay for.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Good link. What's your experience with it so far?
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post #20 of 42
8/2/02 at 12:55am
It's a totally amazing program. I use it full time (instead of PS) to do colour correction and stuff. Much easier and more powerful than PS I think. It does some unbelievably complex stuff relatively easy. Took me about a day or two to get used to the interface, and now wouldn't wanna be without it. Totally stable, ok speed (PS is slightly faster though) and simply the best tool to get the most out of your scans. I'd say, check it out and download the demo. You won't be disappointed if you delve into the very powerful options - please note, this is not a consumer program!!!!
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post #21 of 42
8/2/02 at 2:03am
I am a Photoshop ADDICT!
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post #22 of 42
8/2/02 at 5:10am
I am using Photoshop 7.

The "T" key is a good place to start...
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post #23 of 42
8/2/02 at 5:33am
i'm using photoshop at work since allmost ten years - tried other apps - but never found something that could replace ps.

but lets face it:
i depends on what kind of work your up to.

i use it for colorcorrection, retouche, design and webdesign and am happy.

btw: i think ps 7 is great!
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post #24 of 42
8/2/02 at 5:41am
Photoshop Elements 2 is a good low cost alternative. Its coming out in a couple of weeks and is available for preorder from the Adobe website. It seems to contain everything a non professional would need. The only things it seems to be lacking compared with Photoshop are the ability to perform colour separations for repo house reproduction, scripting to automate the work flow etc, hardly things a non professional would need anyway.
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post #25 of 42
8/2/02 at 5:58am
I do a great deal of digital photography, and have found PhotoShop to be indespensible. However, I have <a href="http://www.caffeinesoft.com/" target="_blank">PixelNHance</a> as my default editor in iPhoto because it does just about everything I need for basic color-correction and histogram editing. It is a marvelous piece of freeware. I only launch PhotoShop for serious editing and retouching.
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post #26 of 42
8/2/02 at 3:02pm
People would be less likely to pirate Photoshop if Adobe didn't charge like $500 for a copy. If you're just a single user I think that's ridiculous, as is the price of most software out there today.
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post #27 of 42
8/2/02 at 3:11pm
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Thanks for all the feedback. I think I will try Adobe Elements.
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post #28 of 42
8/2/02 at 5:02pm
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>People would be less likely to pirate Photoshop if Adobe didn't charge like $500 for a copy. If you're just a single user I think that's ridiculous, as is the price of most software out there today.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You definitely don't know how powerful Photoshop is. Saying something like this just show how little you know about photoshop

BTW, don't forget about the student's price. It's around $300

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post #29 of 42
8/2/02 at 5:07pm
I use it several times a week for my own personal projects; it is well worth its price.
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post #30 of 42
8/2/02 at 5:30pm
You're right. I'm only just starting to use it.

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8/2/02 at 5:51pm
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[quote]Originally posted by The Betts Boy:
<strong>TW, don't forget about the student's price. It's around $300</strong><hr></blockquote>

Or buy a scanner with PS bundled....if you are not a student
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post #32 of 42
8/2/02 at 6:37pm
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Of course that begs the question, which scanner bundles Mac PS? I have two scanners and I think neither are compatible with Mac.
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post #33 of 42
8/2/02 at 6:50pm
[quote]Originally posted by Amorph:
<strong>Off the top of my head...

Stone Design's <a href="http://www.stone.com/Create/Create.html" target="_blank">Create</a> (Timed shareware, $149)</strong><hr></blockquote>

Minor correction: Create is a great application, but it's not really an image/bitmap editor. It does illustration (vector graphics), web and print layout. They recommend TIFFany and would rather not compete with it.
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post #34 of 42
8/2/02 at 9:07pm
Bah, PS nuthin' Real geeks use the Gimp

PS is much better than the Gimp I'll admit, but the Gimp is free if you can get it working Check out my guide <a href="http://macteens.com/news/news.php?id=1279452897" target="_blank">here</a>
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post #35 of 42
8/3/02 at 4:36pm
Why would I pay for the student version when it's on my computer for free?
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post #36 of 42
8/3/02 at 5:08pm
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[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>Why would I pay for the student version when it's on my computer for free? </strong><hr></blockquote>

We aren't talking piracy
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post #37 of 42
8/4/02 at 4:57pm
It's not pirated. Legal buddy.
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post #38 of 42
8/4/02 at 6:45pm
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>It's not pirated. Legal buddy.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Sure. . . by the way, ever post that shot of your machine? And maybe you can post that legal copy of Photoshop running in a desktop thread.
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post #39 of 42
8/4/02 at 7:22pm
I just bought Photoshop Elements 2.0, which is OS X native yesterday at the Short Hills, NJ Apple store. It was my first Apple store and I was very impressed! They had the new iMacs, running 10.2, and eMacs. Every unit had PS 7.0 and Office. Anyway PS Elements is really a good program and can do anything a non-pro would need.

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8/4/02 at 9:28pm
No problem jaske. It's comin up shortly.

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