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post #41 of 78
9/13/06 at 4:03pm
K -

What camera and lens is that?

I am looking for a good macro capable one..
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post #42 of 78
9/13/06 at 4:20pm
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Originally Posted by melgross

It doesn't have to be quite that bad, even without a tilt lens.

I don't know how you are shooting, but close the aperture down as far as you can, in manual. Let the shutter speed go to where it needs to, and make sure that you are using a good tripod. You will get more depth that way.


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post #43 of 78
9/13/06 at 4:34pm
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Originally Posted by Kasper

Those photos are macro shots... that's how macro focus is....

Best,

Kasper

Not really. At this distance you can still get your crisp unboxing close ups.

If he dialled the aperature from what looks like 2.8 down to 8 or so.

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Originally Posted by LGnome

K -

What camera and lens is that?

I am looking for a good macro capable one..

I have a Sigma 150mm Macro and it's the best lens I've ever had. Just awesome... look it up on fredmiranda.com or similar...


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post #44 of 78
9/13/06 at 5:38pm
i miss the sleek and "bling" feeling of the 1st gen Nano.. nice and shiny..

maybe they resorted to aluminum because they cant get the coatings right or something?

I mean, come on.. every cell phone manufacturer can get it right but high and mighty Apple doesn't know how to make scratch proof coatings??

I never figured that one out...

PS Whats up with the Macro???
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post #45 of 78
9/13/06 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by ZO

i miss the sleek and "bling" feeling of the 1st gen Nano.. nice and shiny..

maybe they resorted to aluminum because they cant get the coatings right or something?

I mean, come on.. every cell phone manufacturer can get it right but high and mighty Apple doesn't know how to make scratch proof coatings??

I never figured that one out...

PS Whats up with the Macro???

Maybe the Aluminium is lighter... Anyone have the weights on them?

Some of those photos already show some tiny nicks and dents on the edge of the Aluminium too.
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post #46 of 78
9/13/06 at 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by WhetWurm

I think i'm the only one who doesn't like the new Nano look. I MUCH preferred the sexier nano with the super-scratchable coating. I really don't like the colored aluminium... i never liked the old minis either. Oh well, good thing I'm not in the market for a nano.

yeah I didn't like ipod minis either. but the black one looks hot! kind of like the original but somehow better because of the aluminum finish. And the silver one doesn't look bad either. although looks too minish.
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post #47 of 78
9/13/06 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by Ireland

Why didn't you guys shoot the blue one

Someone else did here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/carpeaq...7594282958843/
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post #48 of 78
9/13/06 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by rtdunham

"Although the new nano is precisely the same height and width of its predecessor, Apple has conveniently (for its margins) offset the dock connector by about a millimeter, making the new nano completely incompatible with the first-generation iPod nano dock. "

Although i own a considerable number of shares of apple and am sympathetic to the company's profit motive, this strikes me as customer abuse. Doesn't it mean all the second-party devices that dock the 'pod, such as the many different speaker products (I own several iHome units, for example) won't function with the new nanos until the devices' manufacturers produce new dock adapters--if at all?

IF this is the case, it's just bad business. If it were any company but apple, i'd say they deserved a punishing customer response--a reluctance to buy, for example, because of the consequences of the changes. No, wait: even if it's apple, that'd be deserved. I look forward to learning more about the consequences of the changes. Say it ain't so.

well, it's nonsense. it's not correct. I have very old dock which was come with 4G 20GB ipod. even new nano completely fit into old dock. don't tell us before you try out.
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post #49 of 78
9/13/06 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by archurban

well, it's nonsense. it's not correct. I have very old dock which was come with 4G 20GB ipod. even new nano completely fit into old dock. don't tell us before you try out.

He was comparing using the 2nd Gen nano when put in the tiny dock made just for the 1st Gen nano, not just any old dock.
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post #50 of 78
9/13/06 at 7:48pm
Hooray, the ugly mini colors are back...
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post #51 of 78
9/13/06 at 9:08pm
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Originally Posted by rahrens

They'll only need a new connection if they are not using the specs for Apple's Universal dock. That's another reason Apple made those specs available to all accessory makers that ponied up to be iPod partners, or whatever they called it. Most accessories do not use the headphone jack and the connector for the dock, just the dock connector.

There may be some, but as far as Apple is concerned, they should be using the Universal dock, so customers can use the dock adapter for their specific model.

What I'm sayimg is that there have been a few devices that used both connectors on the bottom. since the distance between them has changed, those docks (if they are still around) won't work.
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post #52 of 78
9/13/06 at 9:11pm
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Originally Posted by bdj21ya

Unfortunately, all iPod Nanos, first and second gen, are female. Though that might just make the pictures more exciting for some, they are definitely not making babies.

Some animals change their sex according to need. Some are asexual. So, you never know. They have to come from somewhere.
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post #53 of 78
9/13/06 at 9:14pm
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Originally Posted by psionic001

Maybe the Aluminium is lighter... Anyone have the weights on them?

Some of those photos already show some tiny nicks and dents on the edge of the Aluminium too.

That's probably dust. When you shoot macro's, you have to be extremely careful about static and other dust producing and attracting objects. A static eliminating gun, and a can of air will help enormously.
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post #54 of 78
9/13/06 at 9:36pm
Ian,

That was my first thought as well.

However, take a look at the third image down that shows the rear of the packaging - at the very bottom in the middle of the box you'll see the PET recycled/recyclable symbol.

That means that the box is either made from recycled PET plastic or is first use PET that can then be recycled into future products.

The process is actually really interesting.

Add to this the fact that less paper (and therefore trees - plantation pine or similar) is used and that it's much smaller in size allowing for greater numbers to be shipped at one time leading to a reduction in the number of shipments required for same quantity, you have something that's more environmentally friendly.

Even though it's plastic, I guess you'd have to call it 'good' plastic - or at least 'less bad' plastic!

Have a look at: http://container-recycling.org/plasfact/PETstraight.htm

This site gives some insight into the whole process of recycled plastics.

Kim.

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Originally Posted by parky

Steve said the packaging was more environmentally friendly than the old Nano packaging.
I can't really see that being the case as this new case is plastic and the old one was cardboard.
While it may be smaller and therefore cheaper to ship (and save some fuel in the process), it must be not as environmentally easy to make or more importantly dispose of.

The old box was biodegradable (cardboard), this is plastic and will never degrade I suspect. Well not for many, many years. Seems a backward environmental step to me.

Ian
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post #55 of 78
9/13/06 at 10:00pm
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Originally Posted by melgross

Some animals change their sex according to need. Some are asexual. So, you never know. They have to come from somewhere.

Fortunately in this case there is no need for gender bending or any of that boring asexual stuff, as the Nanos' male counterparts--the white earbuds--are in good supply and are eager to mate.

Ok. I think I've taken this too far now.
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post #56 of 78
9/13/06 at 10:18pm
ipod porn. hehe.

hey where's the "don't steal music * ne volez pas la musique * no robar música" sticker?

also, looks like apple is no longer including cds with itunes.

and no extra accessory. the mini had the clip. the 1st gen nano had the sleeve. i hope they still include the apple stickers, which are VERY important (free advertising on ipod owner's cars). can anyone confirm the stickers are included?
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post #57 of 78
9/14/06 at 12:15am
There are stickers but they're smaller than before.
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post #58 of 78
9/14/06 at 1:20am
someone open up the aperture on that camera...
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post #59 of 78
9/14/06 at 1:26am
I hate the aluminum...

Just the other day a couple of friends were listening to music on their old Minis and I said to myself how badly they aged and how great the new design was...

Wtf? Going retro so quickly?

Is it possible to smooth out the alu? Or maybe add somekind of glossy cover?
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post #60 of 78
9/14/06 at 1:27am
PS I'm going to the Expo in a few hours, does anyone want pictures of anything specific?
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post #61 of 78
9/14/06 at 6:51am
I tell you something Apple knows exactly what it's doing with these nano's. I've never seen packing like this on anything I've bought before (black and male btw - the nano not me!) - but then I'm tight!. It's displayed in the case like a wedding gift (ring) or fancy watch - perfect for christmas again!.


I expect there are millions who have been waiting for an update (same as me). The delay will just make the buying now more frenzied...

10-20 million b4 christmas and iPhone after the inevitable slow down...
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post #62 of 78
9/14/06 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by OfficerDigby

I tell you something Apple knows exactly what it's doing with these nano's. I've never seen packing like this on anything I've bought before (black and male btw - the nano not me!) - but then I'm tight!. It's displayed in the case like a wedding gift (ring) or fancy watch - perfect for christmas again!.

some palms are packaged like that. and ipod socks. and video game controllers. etc etc.
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post #63 of 78
9/21/06 at 10:03am
hurray, iPod mini is back! i like the new nano look more than the old one, what i dislike are iTunes 7..... btw, where is CD with iTunes
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post #64 of 78
9/21/06 at 10:04am
ok i posted this message by mistake, is there any way to delete it, not only change it?
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post #65 of 78
9/21/06 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by running

hurray, iPod mini is back! i like the new nano look more than the old one, what i dislike are iTunes 7..... btw, where is CD with iTunes

???

To burn a CD, make a playlist or smart playlist, select the playlist and click "burn CD" in the lower right corner. Or right click a playlist and select "burn playlist to CD".

To import a CD, it will show up under the devices listing when the CD is in the drive. I haven't imported a CD yet in iTunes 7, but I think its button might show up in the lower right corner too, when you've selected the CD.
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post #66 of 78
9/21/06 at 10:09am
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Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut

some palms are packaged like that. and ipod socks. and video game controllers. etc etc.

The iPod sock container is thin folded plastic, not thick molded plastic like the nano's box. So are a lot of game controller boxes. I don't know about Palms, mine was in a cardboard box more like the old packaging.
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post #67 of 78
9/21/06 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by JeffDM

???

To burn a CD, make a playlist or smart playlist, select the playlist and click "burn CD" in the lower right corner. Or right click a playlist and select "burn playlist to CD".

To import a CD, it will show up under the devices listing when the CD is in the drive. I haven't imported a CD yet in iTunes 7, but I think its button might show up in the lower right corner too, when you've selected the CD.

I think the question is whether iTunes 7 comes on a CD. Answer: nope, you have to download it. I imagine that you could find a way of getting Apple to mail one out, but it doesn't come with the iPods anymore.
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post #68 of 78
9/21/06 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by psychboy

I think the question is whether iTunes 7 comes on a CD. Answer: nope, you have to download it. I imagine that you could find a way of getting Apple to mail one out, but it doesn't come with the iPods anymore.


yes, english is not my mothertongue so, if I dont have an internet connection, i cant even put songs on iPod? wow, thats kind of stupid....
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post #69 of 78
9/21/06 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by running

yes, english is not my mothertongue so, if I dont have an internet connection, i cant even put songs on iPod? wow, thats kind of stupid....

Well, it does look like you need iTunes 7 in order to sync with the new iPods. So here are a few options:
1) if you have a laptop, take it to some place that has a connection that you can use (public hotspot, friend's house, etc.) and download it there
2) if you can't do that, get a blank CD and put a copy of iTunes on it that you or someone else downloaded from another internet-connected computer.
3) or call Apple and beg them to mail a copy to you
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post #70 of 78
9/21/06 at 6:44pm
Let me just start out by saying that I was SOOOO excited for the new nano that I went and purchased one the day after they were announced from the apple store. I got the VERY sexy black 8 Gb version. After two days of normal use, and I mean nothing that should have been damaging, it was in my pocket alone and if it wasnt there it was on my desk the damn thing got all scratched. They did a good job of rounding out the nano but the top has a sharp edge. This edge is going to be a problem for many people. Not only did it scratch after two days of use but since it is aluminum when it scratches it exposes the aluminum color which does not contrast very well with the black paint. I was so pissed that I returned it for a refund. I just dont get y they cant get this correct, you should not spend 300 dollars on a piece of equiptment that cant withstand two days of normal use.
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post #71 of 78
9/21/06 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by Red Delicious

Let me just start out by saying that I was SOOOO excited for the new nano that I went and purchased one the day after they were announced from the apple store. I got the VERY sexy black 8 Gb version. After two days of normal use, and I mean nothing that should have been damaging, it was in my pocket alone and if it wasnt there it was on my desk the damn thing got all scratched. They did a good job of rounding out the nano but the top has a sharp edge. This edge is going to be a problem for many people. Not only did it scratch after two days of use but since it is aluminum when it scratches it exposes the aluminum color which does not contrast very well with the black paint. I was so pissed that I returned it for a refund. I just dont get y they cant get this correct, you should not spend 300 dollars on a piece of equiptment that cant withstand two days of normal use.

oh man are you serious? I thought the new nanos would be alot more scratch-resistant.
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post #72 of 78
9/21/06 at 7:06pm
Maybe the black one is different from the rest, but my silver nano has held up just fine in the short time that I've had it. Not a scratch on it yet.
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post #73 of 78
9/21/06 at 8:05pm
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Originally Posted by psychboy

Maybe the black one is different from the rest, but my silver nano has held up just fine in the short time that I've had it. Not a scratch on it yet.

so maybe I should just get a silver 2gb. ( wanted a black but the more I think about it, I would only use it for podcasts;because of great podcasts integration and support; and maybe a few songs. It would basically be just a gym and school mp3 player.
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post #74 of 78
9/21/06 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by Red Delicious

Let me just start out by saying that I was SOOOO excited for the new nano that I went and purchased one the day after they were announced from the apple store. I got the VERY sexy black 8 Gb version. After two days of normal use, and I mean nothing that should have been damaging, it was in my pocket alone and if it wasnt there it was on my desk the damn thing got all scratched. They did a good job of rounding out the nano but the top has a sharp edge. This edge is going to be a problem for many people. Not only did it scratch after two days of use but since it is aluminum when it scratches it exposes the aluminum color which does not contrast very well with the black paint.

I thought Apple said it was hard anodized, not paint. I would think you would have to scratch it pretty hard because anodization actually "seeps" color into the metal. It would have been nice to see photos of this.
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post #75 of 78
9/21/06 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by psychboy

I think the question is whether iTunes 7 comes on a CD. Answer: nope, you have to download it. I imagine that you could find a way of getting Apple to mail one out, but it doesn't come with the iPods anymore.

Oops, I forgot that, and I think I was the first in this forum to point out there was no CD! You can't very well fold a CD into that case, though I would think that a "business card" type CD would fit, just not on the slot-loading drives that Apple likes to use.

Yeah, that really stinks. iTunes is such a huge program that downloading using dial-up would be impractical.
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post #76 of 78
9/21/06 at 9:43pm
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Originally Posted by deckard

Ian,

That was my first thought as well.

However, take a look at the third image down that shows the rear of the packaging - at the very bottom in the middle of the box you'll see the PET recycled/recyclable symbol.

That means that the box is either made from recycled PET plastic or is first use PET that can then be recycled into future products.

The process is actually really interesting.

Add to this the fact that less paper (and therefore trees - plantation pine or similar) is used and that it's much smaller in size allowing for greater numbers to be shipped at one time leading to a reduction in the number of shipments required for same quantity, you have something that's more environmentally friendly.

Even though it's plastic, I guess you'd have to call it 'good' plastic - or at least 'less bad' plastic!

Have a look at: http://container-recycling.org/plasfact/PETstraight.htm

This site gives some insight into the whole process of recycled plastics.

Kim.



Did a little googling on resin symbols, SPI, ISO-1043, etetera. So don't quote me on this but, from my brief search the "PC" stands for polycarbonate NOT polyester (it's common trade name) or "PET" (it's chemical abbreviation), and the "7" is usually used for "Other" meaning it isn't in the first 6 plastic categories (i. e. PET is resin type "1", I believe). According to greenpeace.org, "PC" types of plastics fall near the top of the hazardous plastics pyramid, NOT the bottom. But are ANY plastics good from a biodegradable standpoint? Several sites seem to indicate that type "7" plastics are NOT recyclable (or should not be recycled, just bury them).

Also, the recycle symbol just identifies basically which bin you should through the waste into (i. e. it just identifies the generic type of plastic for POTENTIAL re-processing purposes).

I doesn't mean that it was made from recycled plastic, and it doesn't mean that it can be recycled. It's just a symbol for identification purposes! And given it's purpose for identification, it isn't used in a consistent (i. e. same symbols) universal (i. e. worldwide) fashion!

So no, I don't think Jobs et. al. are walking-the-walk but just talking-the-talk, I just received my G2 nano today, packaging is VERY attractive versus the 1G nano, but from an environmental standpoint, the 2G nano packaging is VERY unattractive versus the 1G nano packaging! And we all know that Jobs, et. al. pride aesthetics above all else, to quote Steve, "Where's my jet, to hell with the environment." He really did say it, I was there, at an Outback Steakhouse, he was eating a 22 oz. prime rib after eating 2 of those fried onion thingies! He was wearing a pair of those fake thick rimmed black eyeglasses with mustache, but his black mock turtleneck and blue jeans were a dead giveaway!

And I just threw my plastic box into the ocean with a message inside, the message reads "Dispose of plastic waste products responsibly!"

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post #77 of 78
9/21/06 at 9:49pm
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Originally Posted by JeffDM

I thought Apple said it was hard anodized, not paint. I would think you would have to scratch it pretty hard because anodization actually "seeps" color into the metal. It would have been nice to see photos of this.

It's anodized. I don't know if it's hard anodized though.

The difference is the thickness of the layer. Standard anodizing is just a couple of ten's thick. At most three. It's purely for decorative purposes, where light wear is expected, like a music player.

Hard anodizing is between eight tens and a thousandth. This is used when a seriously hard wearing surface is needed, as on a tool surface.

The coatings are equally hard, but, of course, the thinner one wears off more easily. On a corner, or edge, where it will get the hardest usage, it will wear off first. But, the only way that will happen is if it it rubbed against something hard. So, no matter what is said, cloth won't do it. The coating is harder than hardened steel.

It will scratch if something hard and sharp is run across it with some force though, because the aluminum underneath is soft, and compresses, thereby allowing the very hard, and brittle, surface to rip.

Hard tempered grades of aluminum are normally used for wearing surfaces. Those alloys are too expensive for use in a music player.
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post #78 of 78
9/21/06 at 10:23pm
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Originally Posted by melgross

It's anodized. I don't know if it's hard anodized though.

The difference is the thickness of the layer. Standard anodizing is just a couple of ten's thick. At most three. It's purely for decorative purposes, where light wear is expected, like a music player.

Hard anodizing is between eight tens and a thousandth. This is used when a seriously hard wearing surface is needed, as on a tool surface.

The coatings are equally hard, but, of course, the thinner one wears off more easily. On a corner, or edge, where it will get the hardest usage, it will wear off first. But, the only way that will happen is if it it rubbed against something hard. So, no matter what is said, cloth won't do it. The coating is harder than hardened steel.

It will scratch if something hard and sharp is run across it with some force though, because the aluminum underneath is soft, and compresses, thereby allowing the very hard, and brittle, surface to rip.

Hard tempered grades of aluminum are normally used for wearing surfaces. Those alloys are too expensive for use in a music player.



Yeah, the black one I got today sure looks anodized, NOT willing to scratch it though! About to head over to Wal-Fart to get a case for it.

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but the hub of the click wheel makes a distinct audible hardware "click" sound when pushed, and the scroll wheel makes a distinct audible software "clicky" sound when spinning the wheel. Sweet! The finish on the hub exactly matches the finish of the aluminum enclosure, methinks the hub may also be aluminum.

Also, upon plugging in the 2G nano, iTunes installs a 1.01 update. What's up with that?

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