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post #161 of 206
9/17/06 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by mbaynham

ok, look right at the bottom of this page. remind you of anything? the 'shuffle' icon has been turned 90 degrees. OMG!!! the innovation!!! and the playback controls, a direct lift, plus a bit of moving around. jesus..... this is just the stupidest thing i have ever seen. apple, SUE!!! of course you're going to win!!

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...11/design.aspx



yeah I don't know why they changed it. I liked the old shuffle and repeat buttons better. ( trying to find a link to them )

edit: found one. This was so much easier. cause you could visually tell when something was shuffled or not. hopefully apple will sue them so they will change it back to the old way.
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post #162 of 206
9/17/06 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by Woody56292

edit: found one. This was so much easier. cause you could visually tell when something was shuffled or not. hopefully apple will sue them so they will change it back to the old way.
http://flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif

You need to learn to use Flickr
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post #163 of 206
9/17/06 at 8:32am
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Originally Posted by Chucker

You need to learn to use Flickr

oops I copied the picture instead of link... (noob)
WMP11 Beta 1
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post #164 of 206
9/17/06 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

Heh, you http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/noob ...!!!

yer i no what that means, i just ent a computer geek, i just show a passing interest. i do have other things in life to do, unlike some...
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post #165 of 206
9/17/06 at 9:18am
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Originally Posted by Woody56292

yeah I don't know why they changed it. I liked the old shuffle and repeat buttons better.

i was making the point that its a direct rip-off from itunes, not that they should use the old one lol.
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post #166 of 206
9/17/06 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by Woody56292

you do realize that creative sells more mp3 players than apple sells ipods right?
they are the most popular mp3 brand in asia.

You do realise that you are wrong?

http://www.instat.com/newmk.asp?ID=1649

Notice that 49% is a worldwide figure.

EDIT: add this.

http://playlistmag.com/news/2006/08/...tive/index.php

Notice Creatives total sales figures. for the quarter. This includes mp3 players, audio boards, speakers, accessories, etc.

Digital music players and their accessories are 65% of that total. Then go look at Apple's numbers for the ipod.
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post #167 of 206
9/17/06 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by Woody56292

Why are people saying it is an ipod-ripoff?
It isn't the same color, doesn't have the same layout, doesn't have a scroll wheel, and isn't as thin as an ipod. So how is it coping it? cause it actually looks good? ( lol I know I am going to get denied for that, but I think it looks good )

Why the heck do you think that i am comparing iPod and Zune?
I am strictly refering to the two stores.
Though I never would compare an Apple device to an MS device.
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post #168 of 206
9/17/06 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by melgross

You do realise that you are wrong?

http://www.instat.com/newmk.asp?ID=1649

Notice that 49% is a worldwide figure.

EDIT: add this.

http://playlistmag.com/news/2006/08/...tive/index.php

Notice Creatives total sales figures. for the quarter. This includes mp3 players, audio boards, speakers, accessories, etc.

Digital music players and their accessories are 65% of that total. Then go look at Apple's numbers for the ipod.


I'm sorry I guess I stand corrected.
Thanks for the info.
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post #169 of 206
9/17/06 at 3:25pm
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Originally Posted by mbaynham

i was making the point that its a direct rip-off from itunes, not that they should use the old one lol.

I know but I just wanted to mention that the new buttons ( while probably familiar to those that use itunes ) doesn't look good on the wmp11 interface. It used to be visually changed if it was in shuffle mode, now it just glows a strange hue of blue. ( looks horrible )

which I guess just goes to show that MS shouldn't copy people, because they aren't very good at it.
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post #170 of 206
9/17/06 at 6:13pm
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Originally Posted by mbaynham

yer i no what that means, i just ent a computer geek, i just show a passing interest. i do have other things in live to do, unlike some...

Typical n00b excuses.
Look, I didn't really learn about ROFL until maybe a year+ ago
And I don't know WTF is up with myspace, youtube, and all that exhibitionism.

I'm caught in the middle - semigeek, I would say. Somewhere between
n00b and 1337 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet)

I absorb dribbles of different things like a sponge so when I talk about them it seems like I know a lot about the subject. Useful when bullsh*ting my way into jobs but not so good when I have to learn up fast to actually do the job.
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post #171 of 206
9/17/06 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by mbaynham

yer i no what that means, i just ent a computer geek, i just show a passing interest. i do have other things in live to do, unlike some...

Yeah, like working on learning how to write English properly.
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post #172 of 206
9/17/06 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

Yeah, like working on learning how to write English properly.

ouch...owned!
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post #173 of 206
9/17/06 at 8:00pm
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Originally Posted by Woody56292

I'm sorry I guess I stand corrected.
Thanks for the info.

Hi Woody. I'm not trying to rub this in, but I spent almost two hours looking for this article earlier, before I posted to you, but I couldn't find it.

Now that I was looking for something completely different, it popped up!

I figured I should post it. These numbers are from 2005, a year before, so take Apple's number given (26%), and change it to the newer number from this year (49%).

The rest of the numbers can then be changed accordingly, though SanDisks can be increased to about 6%.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1770
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post #174 of 206
9/17/06 at 8:11pm
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Originally Posted by melgross

Hi Woody. I'm not trying to rub this in, but I spent almost two hours looking for this article earlier, before I posted to you, but I couldn't find it.

Now that I was looking for something completely different, it popped up!

I figured I should post it. These numbers are from 2005, a year before, so take Apple's number given (26%), and change it to the newer number from this year (49%).

The rest of the numbers can then be changed accordingly, though SanDisks can be increased to about 6%.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1770

sweet a pie chart, I can handle that.8)

evidently my source was completely wrong. (sueing cnet for making me look like an idiot)
Thanks for the info, I am linking that for future reference.
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post #175 of 206
9/17/06 at 8:34pm
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Originally Posted by melgross

Hi Woody. I'm not trying to rub this in, but I spent almost two hours looking for this article earlier, before I posted to you, but I couldn't find it.

Now that I was looking for something completely different, it popped up!

I figured I should post it. These numbers are from 2005, a year before, so take Apple's number given (26%), and change it to the newer number from this year (49%).

The rest of the numbers can then be changed accordingly, though SanDisks can be increased to about 6%.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1770

1. Interesting. Strong indication that Zune will possibly skim a little off Apple (in terms of stealing a bit of iPod sales... but Apple iPod marketshare worldwide would still increase anyway), and looks like Zune will mostly squeeze out iRiver, Samsung, SanDisk and Creative. DIE CREATIVE!! DIE ALREADY!!!!!!

2. Apple's worldwide mp3 player marketshare 49% for 2006??? Wow, we'll see when the final numbers are compiled, but the 2006 pie chart will be interesting to check out. I read the In-Stat link (http://www.instat.com/newmk.asp?ID=1649) the article is dated May 1, 2006 and says "recent research" shows 49% (I'm assuming that's worldwide the way the article is written)... We'll see the final figure. It could be 55% or more(!) worldwide for 2006 when the final data is compiled. Particularly with iPod nano sexyback and swallow-able iPod shuffle. (I think for the iPod shuffle the stickers "Do not steal music" have been replaced with "Do not eat iPod".
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post #176 of 206
9/17/06 at 8:39pm
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

1. Interesting. Strong indication that Zune will possibly erode a little of Apple, but mostly squeeze out iRiver, Samsung, SanDisk and Creative. DIE CREATIVE!! DIE ALREADY!!!!!!

2. Apple's worldwide mp3 player marketshare 49% for 2006??? Wow, we'll see when the final numbers are compiled, but the 2006 pie chart will be interesting to check out.

I hope they do supply another chart, from whereever they got it from.

I'm subscribed to several invester newsletters that have info like this, but I can't post it. It's tough therefore, to always come up with those numbers, so I get into arguments. AI, and others, have to step up to the plate on this.
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post #177 of 206
9/17/06 at 8:46pm
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Originally Posted by melgross

I hope they do supply another chart, from whereever they got it from.

I'm subscribed to several invester newsletters that have info like this, but I can't post it. It's tough therefore, to always come up with those numbers, so I get into arguments. AI, and others, have to step up to the plate on this.

That's cool, when you're duking it out with others, not only is it fun to watch, but public data like you posted somehow gets trawled and brought to the surface.

But screw your newsletter policies, just post the info from them! I guess it's a big breach of your subscription agreement though \
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post #178 of 206
9/17/06 at 9:05pm
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

That's cool, when you're duking it out with others, not only is it fun to watch, but public data like you posted somehow gets trawled and brought to the surface.

But screw your newsletter policies, just post the info from them! I guess it's a big breach of your subscription agreement though \

Unfortunately, yes. You can't just post data that you agreed to not make public.

The problem with the internet is that according to an article (that I don't remember the name of), more than 66% of all pages on the internet are in private databases not reachable by any search engine.

In that case, you need to have the actual address. In many cases, once data on a page that has been "expired", it is in one of those databases. You "might" be able to access it by typing the address, but usually once it been relegated to that status, a password is needed.

I'm sure that all of us have been in the situation where we read an article that we didn't think to bookmark, that was useful in some discussion days, weeks, or even months later. If others are like me , they won't always remember the name of the article, who wrote it, or even on what site they read it.

Then good luck finding it again! Sometimes I spend hours looking for something that just seems buried. Sometimes I find other articles that are "sorta, kinda" ok, but leave things open to interpretation, so I don't like to use them.

It can be frustrating. Sometimes I don't even bother to post because I know I can't find the info I need to back up what I'm saying.
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post #179 of 206
9/18/06 at 1:48am
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

Typical n00b excuses.
...
I absorb dribbles of different things like a sponge so when I talk about them it seems like I know a lot about the subject. Useful when bullsh*ting my way into jobs but not so good when I have to learn up fast to actually do the job.

I like this aproach. Reminds me of myself.
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post #180 of 206
9/18/06 at 1:49am
Heh.
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post #181 of 206
9/18/06 at 5:04am
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

swallow-able iPod shuffle. (I think for the iPod shuffle the stickers "Do not steal music" have been replaced with "Do not eat iPod".

This brings to mind one of my favorite AtAT scenes ever.

Unfortunately, Apple got rid of that footnote on the new shuffle page, I think because there aren't all those "pack of chewing gum" references anymore.
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post #182 of 206
9/18/06 at 6:18am
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Originally Posted by Woody56292

yes?? show me.


Christ! They even chose the same album art! See "More of the Music you Love" link on this WMP page
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post #183 of 206
9/18/06 at 8:22am
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

Yeah, like working on learning how to write English properly.

haha woops!!
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post #184 of 206
9/18/06 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by Archstudent

I predict that people will be too embarrassed to buy this. Imagine turning up to work or to school with a Zune!

OMG imagine having a pink nano in your hand, will they think you're gay!!!

come on, it's just an mp3 player.
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post #185 of 206
9/18/06 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut

OMG imagine having a pink nano in your hand, will they think you're gay!!!

come on, it's just an mp3 player.

well you cant hide it in your pocket, its too bloody big lol
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post #186 of 206
9/18/06 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by mbaynham

well you cant hide it in your pocket, its too bloody big lol

maybe they're planning a backpack straps add-on so you can carry it on your back. 8)
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post #187 of 206
9/18/06 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut

maybe they're planning a backpack straps add-on so you can carry it on your back. 8)

hahaha brilliant. hope its not brown!!
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post #188 of 206
9/18/06 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut

maybe they're planning a backpack straps add-on so you can carry it on your back. 8)

yeah cause ipods are sooo big....\



"When it comes to Zune's physical size, it is pretty much the same width as iPod, but a bit longer. This image accurately shows their relative sizes:"

* Height: 4.4 inches;
* Width: 2.4 inches;
* Depth: 0.58 inches;


# Height: 4.1 inches
# Width: 2.4 inches
# Depth: 0.55 inch
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post #189 of 206
9/18/06 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut

OMG imagine having a pink nano in your hand, will they think you're gay!!!

come on, it's just an mp3 player.

It's also a fashion statement. Can you see Gucci cases made for a Zune?

It's also what your friends get. Especially if one is a teen.
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post #190 of 206
9/18/06 at 8:36pm
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Originally Posted by Woody56292

yeah cause ipods are sooo big....\



"When it comes to Zune's physical size, it is pretty much the same width as iPod, but a bit longer. This image accurately shows their relative sizes:"

* Height: 4.4 inches;
* Width: 2.4 inches;
* Depth: 0.58 inches;


# Height: 4.1 inches
# Width: 2.4 inches
# Depth: 0.55 inch

Um... the iPod is .43 inches. The Zune is 35% thicker.
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post #191 of 206
9/18/06 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by Woody56292

# Height: 4.1 inches
# Width: 2.4 inches
# Depth: 0.55 inch

That's for the 80 GB model. Since the Zune is 30 GB, you want to compare to the 30 GB iPod. Therefore, the comparison becomes:

Quote:
* Height: 4.4 inches;
* Width: 2.4 inches;
* Depth: 0.58 inches;

# Height: 4.1 inches
# Width: 2.4 inches
# Depth: 0.43 inch

Which means that the Zune has 44.75% more volume than the same-capacity iPod.
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post #192 of 206
9/18/06 at 9:52pm
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Originally Posted by meelash

This brings to mind one of my favorite AtAT scenes ever.

Unfortunately, Apple got rid of that footnote on the new shuffle page, I think because there aren't all those "pack of chewing gum" references anymore.

Yes, I remember now, it was actually on the Apple pages. Pity they took it off. Instead of "do not eat" though there should be a warning now about "Keep your earbuds connected to iPod Shuffle. This way if you accidentally swallow it [for example, if your really hot step mom comes out of her room with only her lingerie on while you are closely examining your iPod Shuffle] just pull on white cable to dislodge from throat."
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post #193 of 206
9/18/06 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by monkeyastronaut

OMG imagine having a pink nano in your hand, will they think you're gay!!!

Actually, if you are in a gay neighbourhood flashing your pink nano, you'd get hit on if you're a guy. If you are a girl, you'd just get some sass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sass) from them. If you are in a "macho" neighbourhood flashing your pink nano and you are a guy, you'd get beat up... [To paraphrase Chris Rock: if you're in a white neighbourhood, they'll beat you up. If you're in a black neighbourhood, they'll beat you up and steal your pink nano. And your shoes.]
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post #194 of 206
9/18/06 at 10:13pm
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

Yes, I remember now, it was actually on the Apple pages. Pity they took it off. Instead of "do not eat" though there should be a warning now about "Keep your earbuds connected to iPod Shuffle. This way if you accidentally swallow it [for example, if your really hot step mom comes out of her room with only her lingerie on while you are closely examining your iPod Shuffle] just pull on white cable to dislodge from throat."

Oh, gee, Sunil!
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post #195 of 206
9/18/06 at 10:14pm
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

Actually, if you are in a gay neighbourhood flashing your pink nano, you'd get hit on if you're a guy. If you are a girl, you'd just get some sass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sass) from them. If you are in a "macho" neighbourhood flashing your pink nano and you are a guy, you'd get beat up... [To paraphrase Chris Rock: if you're in a white neighbourhood, they'll beat you up. If you're in a black neighbourhood, they'll beat you up and steal your pink nano. And your shoes.]

Now you've really done it!
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post #196 of 206
9/18/06 at 11:34pm
You're lucky I haven't followed through with my inspiration about iPorn and Apple strategy. Seriously though, I've got an idea on iPod phone MVNO etc. We'll see what happens.
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post #197 of 206
9/19/06 at 8:25am
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Originally Posted by Woody56292

yeah cause ipods are sooo big....\

what is it with this guy?
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post #198 of 206
9/19/06 at 1:03pm
Heh. Never post when drunk, angry or frustrated. Also, never post when you have a woody.
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post #199 of 206
9/19/06 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by mbaynham

what is it with this guy?

Either a MS fanboy, or some kind of MS evangelist sent out to troll forums :P
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post #200 of 206
9/19/06 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by sunilraman

Heh. Never post when drunk, angry or frustrated. Also, never post when you have a woody.

What about a Woody56292?
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