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Adobe Systems earlier this month offered attendees at the Photoshop World conference proof that it is progressing swiftly in transitioning its Creative Suite line of software applications to Apple's new Intel Mac platform.

Adobe previews next-gen Photoshop

"During the Photoshop World keynote, Adobe's Sr. Vice President of Creative Solutions provided a quick look at Photoshop CS3, apparently running on an Intel-based Mac," PiperJaffray analyst Gene Munster wrote in a note to clients on Monday.

"While the presentation did not reveal any of the CS3 features, it provided evidence that the company has already successfully moved this core application to the Intel-Mac platform."

Photoshop CS3, code-named "Red Pill," is just one of several graphics and content creation applications due as part of CS3 in the spring of 2007. The new software suite will also combine software technologies from Macromedia Corp., which Adobe acquired for $3.4 billion last year.

The September Photoshop World attracted the highest attendance in the show's history, with approximately 3,000 attendees (up from 2,600 last year). "We believe the increased attendance at the event is another indication that the creative pro industry is strong," Munster wrote.

According to the analyst, 87 percent of the customers he spoke to during the conference said there is a greater than 50 percent likelihood they will buy the combined Adobe/Macromedia suite within 12 months of release. Meanwhile, 52 percent indicated there was a greater than 70 percent likelihood that they buy the product during the same timeframe.

Next year's Photoshop World is scheduled for April 4-6 at the John B. Hynes Convention Center in Boston, Mass., suggesting a release of Adobe Creative Suite 3.0 may precede the conference.

Adobe announces Creative Suite 2.3

In related news, Adobe on Monday announced Creative Suite 2.3 Premium, the next version of its professional bundle of Adobe applications.

Version 2.3 will include its Acrobat 8 Professional software, the newly released version of its PDF workflow software. In addition to supporting industry-standard PDF/X-1a and PDF/X-3 files, Acrobat 8 Professional now outputs PDF/X-4 for native transparency support, as well as PDF/A for long-term archiving.

Adobe Creative Suite 2.3 Premium also bundles Dreamweaver 8, the Web design and development tool acquired from Macromedia.

Adobe expects to ship Creative Suite 2.3 plus Dreamweaver 8 (in English, French, German, and Japanese) in the fourth quarter 2006. Estimated street prices will be $1200 for the full version of Adobe Creative Suite 2.3 Premium, $160 for an upgrade from Adobe Creative Suite 2 Premium, and $550 for an upgrade from Creative Suite 1.x Premium and Standard.
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i love it

'Meanwhile, 52 percent indicated there was a greater than 70 percent likelihood that they buy the product during the same timeframe.'

Silly analysts...
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need universal photoshop
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i love it

'Meanwhile, 52 percent indicated there was a greater than 70 percent likelihood that they buy the product during the same timeframe.'

Silly analysts...

I was just going to quote that. That line is just great.
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When CS3 arrives, there should be a combined upgrade deal: if you have older versions of Photoshop AND Dreamweaver for instance, you should be able to get CS3 for reduced cost.

And they'd better not demand that you be upgrading from a recent version: the REASON I have been waiting (with Adobe and Macromedia both) is for Universal versions.
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No word on the fate of Fireworks?
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Version 2.3 will include its Acrobat 8 Professional software, the newly released version of its PDF workflow software. In addition to supporting industry-standard PDF/X-1a and PDF/X-3 files, Acrobat 8 Professional now outputs PDF/X-4 for native transparency support, as well as PDF/A for long-term archiving.
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Long term archival needs a special format? what the heck for? a PDF made with acrobat 2 can load in acrobat 7, thats the whole point of the pdf standard, why do we need a seperate offshoot as an "archival format"?
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Long term archival needs a special format? what the heck for? a PDF made with acrobat 2 can load in acrobat 7, thats the whole point of the pdf standard, why do we need a seperate offshoot as an "archival format"?

Acrobat 2 documents can be loaded in Acrobat 7, but who's to say that Acrobat 7 documents will be able to load in Acrobat 12? The PDF format in Acrobat 2's day was very simple, but it's since evolved to support embedded audio and video, JavaScript, and other features that may not be well supported (if at all) in the years to come. The PDF/A format solves this problem, but it's not actually a new format. It's simply a restricted version of the PDF 1.4 format. For example, it disallows audio and video, it requires that fonts must be embedded and licensed for universal display, colorspaces must be specified in a device-independent manner, that sort of thing. If you make sure your PDFs meet the restrictions specified in the PDF/A standard, then your data should be viewable for decades to come.

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"Codename: Red Pill" huh? Sounds like someone likes the Matrix.
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Version 2.3 will include its Acrobat 8 Professional software, the newly released version of its PDF workflow software.

Described in more detail at Adobe's product page.
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Silly analysts...

'Tricks are for kids'
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No word on the fate of Fireworks?

Adobe released a survey to users back in April to test reaction to various pricing structures and application bundles with CS3 after the whole Macromedia merger. They were listing "Adobe Fireworks 3" as part of the proposed CS3 Web Suite, along with Dreamweaver 9, Acrobat 8, Flash Pro 9, Photoshop CS3, Illustrator CS3, and Contribute 4. Unless they've changed their plans since then, Fireworks should be alive and well, used as a replacement for ImageReady.
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Fireworks is so much better than Photoshop.
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Originally Posted by Placebo

Fireworks is so much better than Photoshop.

LOL
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'Meanwhile, 90 percent indicated there was a greater than 100 percent likelihood that they buy the product as soon as it becomes available for Intel-Mac's!'

Where is that figure.
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And yet no feature information? I have this nagging fear that all CS3 will be is Intel compatible and "integrated" with Macromedia apps, but technically virtually indistinguishable from CS2—aside from maybe integrating acquired RAW technology. The "2.3" update only confirms that fear (what the hell is that, anyway? $550 for Dreamweaver and Acrobat for CS2 Standard users? Calling it 2.3? Adobe should be embarrassed).

I get the distinct impression Adobe is in a corporate Ivory Tower and completely disconnected from its actual users. Talk to us Adobe! Prove otherwise.
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87 per cent said there is greater than 50 per cent likelihood, while 52 per cent said there is greater than 70 per cent likelihood - STOP! My head is spinning.
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If Adobe had any decency they'd release a public beta of CS3 Photoshop so we'd have something to use for the next eight months...
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LOL

Re: Fireworks vs PS

When it the specifics of web graphics, it stacks up rather heartily.

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Originally Posted by Cory Bauer

If Adobe had any decency they'd release a public beta of CS3 Photoshop so we'd have something to use for the next eight months...

you will use a beta for pro work?
If you are on a tight deadline a crash wipeing out your work is the last thing that you want.
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Depends on the definition of Beta. If it's Adobe's Lightroom definition of Beta (ie, Alpha), then certainly not. If it is feature complete with no output related bugs, then likely. It's not as if random crashes in Illustrator haven't taught us to save frequently.
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Most people who use Illustrator that I know did not buy CS2, and I didn't buy it either. It's a dog of an upgrade. We're all waiting for CS3. Adobe is really looking bad now... I've even used "Expression3 X" occasionally for vector art... it ain't bad for natural looking brush strokes. Nice '50s styling.

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Originally Posted by Placebo

Fireworks is so much better than Photoshop.

Interesting, though unusual, viewpoint.
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you will use a beta for pro work?
If you are on a tight deadline a crash wipeing out your work is the last thing that you want.

We wouldn't even use a new version for work until it was around for a couple of months on our machines, and checked out. And I beta test it!
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Originally Posted by Placebo

Fireworks is so much better than Photoshop.

I think Fireworks has much room for improvement (or it's just me being unable to find the proper functions).

Take gradients as an example: When configuring it, you see the gradient with sliders above and underneath it, but there is a button that opens a popup with exactly the same controlls.

I could not find another way to make a vertical linear gradient but to rotate the canvas by 90 degress and apply the horizontal one. And I am unable to move the center of a radial gradient.

How mature is Illustrator's feature set?
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Screw photoshop, where is my illustrator with web-friendly functionality? Merge in some fireworks and I'm the happiest camper.
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Illustrator handles gradients quite different, but very well I would say. Except for fading to transparency, which is a hassle.
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you will use a beta for pro work?
If you are on a tight deadline a crash wipeing out your work is the last thing that you want.

Like the Current version of PS doesn't do that already!
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich

Most people who use Illustrator that I know did not buy CS2, and I didn't buy it either. It's a dog of an upgrade. We're all waiting for CS3. Adobe is really looking bad now... I've even used "Expression3 X" occasionally for vector art... it ain't bad for natural looking brush strokes. Nice '50s styling.

I'm not an illustrator, so I don't quite know what to make of this.

However, it's new, built in Cocoa and available now.
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As for a Photoshop competitor, I don't know what this timing means for Greg's secret challenger.

If they could release something by MWSF - even if it's not full featured, they might pick up some marketshare.
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Like the Current version of PS doesn't do that already!

PS is one of the more reliable programs out there. But, saving your work is always required on a regular basic. Every time you complete some process, you should save.
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Originally Posted by Frank777

I'm not an illustrator, so I don't quite know what to make of this.

However, it's new, built in Cocoa and available now.

I've heard mention of it, but have never seen it. For $79 bucks, it's worth a try. I'll think about it, and maybe get it tomorrow.
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Adobe is like a pregnant horse waiting to give birth to it's offspring. It just needs someone to give it an enema.
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Adobe is like a pregnant horse waiting to give birth to it's offspring. It just needs someone to give it an enema.

And, just how would that work?
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A very large elevated water tank with several thousand small houses dangling underneath?
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Breaking the water works better.
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Breaking the water works better.

Yeah, that was the point.
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And, While I haven't gotten my beta from Adobe yet, I'm expecting it to arrive before the end of the year (this year, that is).

The release usually comes out between 4 and 6 months after I get my first beta.
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And, While I haven't gotten my beta from Adobe yet, I'm expecting it to arrive before the end of the year (this year, that is).

The release usually comes out between 4 and 6 months after I get my first beta.

Will you be able to tell us what you think of it or will you be restricted by a NDA?
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Originally Posted by backtomac

Will you be able to tell us what you think of it or will you be restricted by a NDA?

There are some things that can be said. But most others have to be kept under wraps.

The good thing about Adobe, is that unlike Apple, they give more info as time goes on. They gave away a number of features at the PS Expo. There are a few things that they always threaten us with death about.

But, they listen to their beta testers when it comes to features and usability. That's because most of the testers are pro's in the field, and that's their market.
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