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Estimated wait times for Apple Computer's 15-inch MacBook Pro Intel notebooks have been pushed out in some regions as rumors of impending revisions persist ahead of the holiday shopping season.

In particular, the Apple online store in France now lists both 15-inch MacBook Pro models with estimated delivery times of 3 business days, up from the 24 hour lead times listed over the weekend. The 17-inch model continues to reflect immediate availability.

Those findings were joined by several reports Monday, which imply that Cupertino, Calif.-based company is preparing to introduce Core 2 Duo-based MacBook Pro revisions at existing price points as early as Tuesday.

Although AppleInsider has been unable to confirm Monday's reports with any degree of certainty, two new Apple manufacturer part numbers have also been making the rounds alongside reports of MacBook Pro updates within the next week and a half: MA609LL/A and MA610LL/A.

Apple's two existing 15-inch MacBook Pro retail configurations carry manufacturer part numbers MA600LL/A and MA601LL/A. On the other hand, the 17-inch MacBook Pro bears a completely different part number in MA092LL/A.

Unfortunately, the most reliable information on Apple's forthcoming notebook revisions continues to be an earlier published report, which indicated the company has plans of updating all of its existing notebook models with Core 2 Duo chips by the second half of November.
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What more is there to say on this topic? The updates are coming, and everyone's ready. At least I am! Now, Apple, let's get on with it!
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post #3 of 38
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Those findings were joined by several reports Monday, which imply that Cupertino, Calif.-based company is preparing to introduce Core 2 Duo-based MacBook Pro revisions at existing price points as early as Tuesday.

Tomorrow, or next Tuesday?
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Tomorrow, or next Tuesday?

yes. \
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Given my luck with buying Apple products and then to have it refreshed within a month, I'd say I'm going to wait. Anyway I have one of the first 15" MBP so I think I will be waiting awhile for a new one,
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I'm not buying it. Sounds like there's a shortage on French keyboards to me. Why none of the other countries around France? Also, the French MB ship time is 3 days for the high and low end models, but not the middle one. There may be upgrades tomorrow, but I don't think this is an indicator.
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What if they skipped using core 2 duo and went to quad core. We can only hope.
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Originally Posted by mrpiddly

What if they skipped using core 2 duo and went to quad core. We can only hope.

Except, of course, that there is no quad-core laptop CPU from Intel, and won't be for a while.
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Except, of course, that there is no quad-core laptop CPU from Intel, and won't be for a while.

I'm sure if Apple made a laptop Dell sized they could fit a Woodcrest in it!
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I really want a tablet notebook. Other computer makers have done this already, but none of their products have impressed me and windows xp tablet edition is a joke. Apple also makes inkwell.
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Originally Posted by mrpiddly

I really want a tablet notebook. Other computer makers have done this already, but none of their products have impressed me and windows xp tablet edition is a joke. Apple also makes inkwell.

Have you used Inkwell? It's not something that I consider to be that impressive.
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Originally Posted by mrpiddly

What if they skipped using core 2 duo and went to quad core. We can only hope.

I doubt that you'll see a quad core laptop any time soon. The Desktop Core 2 Quadro may have twice the cores, but it also has twice the power consumption to go with it. About the same as a Pentium D.
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig

I doubt that you'll see a quad core laptop any time soon. The Desktop Core 2 Quadro may have twice the cores, but it also has twice the power consumption to go with it. About the same as a Pentium D.

Kentsfield hasn't been shown to be twice the power consumption that I remember. But even so, it's far too much. The notebook quad core is probably about a year away, after a die shrink and putting them all on a single die.
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Can I get a TOMMORROW BABY?

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post #15 of 38
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Originally Posted by mrpiddly

What if they skipped using core 2 duo and went to quad core. We can only hope.

There is no mobile quad core.

But, I assume you know that.
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Originally Posted by bdj21ya

I'm not buying it. Sounds like there's a shortage on French keyboards to me. Why none of the other countries around France? Also, the French MB ship time is 3 days for the high and low end models, but not the middle one. There may be upgrades tomorrow, but I don't think this is an indicator.

Apple to revise French keyboards! I wonder what they'll change - will they become qwerty, to match others around the world, or will they just have the size of their spacebar bumped?
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post #17 of 38
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Originally Posted by mrpiddly

I really want a tablet notebook. Other computer makers have done this already, but none of their products have impressed me and windows xp tablet edition is a joke. Apple also makes inkwell.

If every computer-maker fails to sell this product isn't that an indication that (almost) no one want's a tablet notebook?
They are available for a while now and still doesn't sell.

Why should Apple have a product in it's portfolio that doesn't sell in a market 45 times as big as its own?
It's a niche to small for Apple to release a product in that actually sells.

A MacTablet is a pipe dream.
Some extra functionality in other portable solutions probably not.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider

Unfortunately, the most reliable information on Apple's forthcoming notebook revisions continues to be an earlier published report, which indicated the company has plans of updating all of its existing notebook models with Core 2 Duo chips by the second half of November.

Second half of November!? Isn't that when Playstation 3 is gonna be released?! Oh yezz, Blu Ray is in the offing! Together with the 64BIT treat, it's gonna be future proof for years to come

So, I'm expecting an announcment on my Bday (Halloween) and a roll out around Poppy day (November 11). I can live with that 8)

PS I am not a gamer!
post #19 of 38
I am praying for today, it is in Apples best interest to release it sooner than later!
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In the UK Apple store, All Macbooks except the black one have been on 3 day delivery for over a week at least. Macbook Pros are 24 hour shipping.

So if a 3 day delay is an indicator of new models then in the UK, it's the opposite of France and the MacBooks are getting an update. It's not really that unusual for them to go to 3 days. Happens all the time.

It'd be cool if the lower end MacBooks get an update however as I've got to buy one in the next week or so for my parents. It makes no difference really to them if it's updated or not as the current model is more than adequate. Believe it or not but they're upgrading from a Pentium 66Mhz Windows 95 PC!

Incidentally, I was in PC World over the weekend (UK chain of computer stores). The staff there aren't expecting stock for a week. The were out of stock of MacBooks entirely. That's not to say there's anything coming though. It's a PC dominated store and 'about a week' is usual for them when asked if they're getting something in.

For shoppers, a quick hint too. In PC World, they price new models of computers at £nnn.99 pence. If it's due to be replaced on the shelf, they change the price to £nnn.97 on the label on the shelf rail so that staff on the floor know it's to be replaced shortly with a new model. All the Macs were .99 btw.
post #21 of 38
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider

In particular, the Apple online store in France now lists both 15-inch MacBook Pro models with estimated delivery times of 3 business days, up from the 24 hour lead times listed over the weekend. The 17-inch model continues to reflect immediate availability.

OK guys, today is the day. The european stores are closing and the US one soon I think (it is always closing last).
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Originally Posted by aegisdesign

In the UK Apple store, All Macbooks except the black one have been on 3 day delivery for over a week at least. Macbook Pros are 24 hour shipping.

UK too is down now.
post #23 of 38
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Originally Posted by PB

UK too is down now.

US too. So new hardware is a lock now.
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might just be Shuffles and Xserves... BUT i hope for C2D MBP, I am like a kid waiting to open Christmas presents
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Originally Posted by timmillwood

might just be Shuffles and Xserves... BUT i hope for C2D MBP, I am like a kid waiting to open Christmas presents

With you on that all the way.
post #26 of 38
Australia store down ;->
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"We are busy updating the store for you and will be back shortly"
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The game's afoot!
post #29 of 38
Is it just me or is it taking longer to update the store than normal?
post #30 of 38
they are here

2GB ram standard on the highend
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post #31 of 38
Well, it's really happened - from Apple.com:

A 2.16GHz or 2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. Up to 39% faster than its predecessor.(1) A built-in iSight for instant video conferencing on the move. Front Row with Apple Remote to dazzle everyone in the room. Now available in 15- and 17-inch models starting at just $1999. Start your engines.




Performance squared

MacBook Pro is built on the revolutionary Intel Core 2 Duo — which packs the power of two processor cores (up to 2.33GHz) inside a single chip. It provides 4MB of Smart Cache, L2 cache that can be shared between the cores as needed. It delivers higher performance in 2D and 3D graphics, video editing, and music encoding. But the new engine is only part of the story. MacBook Pro supports hard drives up to 200GB and up to 3GB of 667MHz DDR2 memory. And now every MacBook Pro boasts both a FireWire 800 port and a double-layer burning SuperDrive. Ultimate speed, performance, and connectivity. To go. That’s MacBook Pro.

Check it out. They look sweeeeeeeeeet!

I'm just waiting for the Australian store to come back online and I'll order mine!

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post #32 of 38
Nice. But only 2 RAM slots, and therefore extremely costly to update to over 2GB RAM. Everything else is really nice, though.
post #33 of 38
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Originally Posted by philby

Nice. But only 2 RAM slots, and therefore extremely costly to update to over 2GB RAM. Everything else is really nice, though.

What notebooks have more than two RAM slots? This isn't a challenge, simply a question. When I spec'd out a Dell or HP with higher memory than 2GB, the memory cost skyrockets, so I assume that they too are only offering two slots. I do wonder why Apple stopped at 3GB, it's possible for the chipset to use 4GB, just expensive.
post #34 of 38
Actually, I didn't check other notebooks... I was simply hoping for 4 RAM slots and a 4 GB RAM limit. RAMJET sells 2GB DDR-667 SO-DIMMs for $269, so the cost is not all that prohibitive (at the Swiss Apple store, going from 2 to 3 GB is around $600).
The strange 3GB limit is also there in the 24" iMac. Why that is, I have no idea.
post #35 of 38
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Originally Posted by JeffDM

What notebooks have more than two RAM slots?

Here is an example. Apple will probably do it next year, unless there is no really interest in this market. SPARCbooks are a completely different story.
post #36 of 38
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Originally Posted by philby

Actually, I didn't check other notebooks... I was simply hoping for 4 RAM slots and a 4 GB RAM limit. RAMJET sells 2GB DDR-667 SO-DIMMs for $269, so the cost is not all that prohibitive (at the Swiss Apple store, going from 2 to 3 GB is around $600).
The strange 3GB limit is also there in the 24" iMac. Why that is, I have no idea.

The Apple US price is close to that too. I wasn't aware that the memory price dropped that much. I looked out of curiosity several months ago and the price of that memory was more than $1k per stick.
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Originally Posted by PB

Here is an example. Apple will probably do it next year, unless there is no really interest in this market. SPARCbooks are a completely different story.

Apple has no interest in the portable workstation or DTR markets. Not elegant enough for them.
post #38 of 38
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig

Apple has no interest in the portable workstation or DTR markets. Not elegant enough for them.

Too small a market.
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