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Apple Computer on Thursday issues an update to its Aperture professional photography workflow application and also made available for download a fully-functional free trial of the software.

Aperture 1.5.1 (125MB), which is recommended for all users, addresses more than 100 issues related to overall reliability and performance in all areas of the application, Apple said.

Specifically, the update offers improvements to keywords, loupe, cropping, previews, metadata presets, versions, file renaming, iPhoto Library import and watermarks.

In an effort to get Aperture "in the hands of as many photographers as possible" the Cupertino, Calif.-based Mac maker also offering potential customers the opportunity to take Aperture 1.5 for a free test drive.

The trial provides users with a fully-functional version of Aperture 1.5 that they can use and experiment with.

"While it includes all the features available in a licensed copy, the trial version will expire 30 days after you launch it for the first time," Apple said. "Try it, and you’ll see how easy it is to import, manage, edit, catalog, organize, adjust, publish, export, and archive your RAW, JPEG, TIFF, and PSD images."

Separately on Thursday, the company released digital camera RAW support updates in PowerPC (1.4MB) and Universal (2.4MB) formats.

The updates improve RAW file format compatibility for certain digital SLR cameras, including the Nikon D80, Pentax *ist DS, and Canon Digital Rebel XTi / 400D / Kiss X Digital. It also addresses issues with handling of large Canon RAW files, DNG compatibility on Intel-based Macs, and lines that sometimes appearing in images exported from Aperture.
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The demo allows photographers to try out every aspect of the program, which has not been crippled in any[way]

This is excellent news. Many people have been clamoring for a demo version of Aperture.
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Apple is the king of demo software, they don't take stuff out or nerf the functionality in anyway when they release demos. I don't know of any other major software company that does that.
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ah well, ive only got a macbook but ill try it any way lol
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Apple is the king of demo software, they don't take stuff out or nerf the functionality in anyway when they release demos. I don't know of any other major software company that does that.

Macromedia (I don't think Adobe has changed this) does full unlimited demos too.
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I'm leaving for the show right after this post. I'll be there tomorrow as well. I'll tell what I see, later tonight.
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Sick! I'm looking forward to trying out a an aperture demo.
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Sick! I'm looking forward to trying out a an aperture demo.

yeah same here, but where is it?!
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post #9 of 32
The update is now available through Software Update.
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yeah same here, but where is it?!

http://www.apple.com/aperture/trial/
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http://www.apple.com/aperture/trial/

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post #12 of 32
Great move by Apple.

I've been watching Aperture for some time. v1 was too buggy, so I don't want to jump in blindly.

But this move will probably make me an Aperture customer 31 days from now. (Assuming the quality is good.)
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I got back from the PhotoExpo a few minutes ago.

Apple has one of the largest booths at the show. Canon has the largest by far, and has two, to boot.

Apaterture runs much faster on the Mac Pro then it did on the Quad.

For new 64 bit MBP users, there is good news as well. The program ran well. not as fast as on a Mac Pro, of course, but much much better than on Powerbooks, and it seemed to be noticably faster than when running on the older Yonah machine. I didn't check the amount of RAM, but I'm pretty sure it had at least 2GB.

Not much was done to the corrective capabilities over 1.5, but that was to be expected. most photogs will be moving files to PS as soon as they have them sorted anyway.

All in all, it was pretty good.

I was surprised that they didn't have much seating. Adobe must have eight times as much.

Well, it's almost official, wet photography is about gone.

Both Kodak and Fuji were almost all about digital. Fuji, for example had one counter with their film. It was about five feet long. They had a much larger area for printing paper, but still a minority of the space.
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Well, it's almost official, wet photography is about gone.

Both Kodak and Fuji were almost all about digital. Fuji, for example had one counter with their film. It was about five feet long. They had a much larger area for printing paper, but still a minority of the space.

Fantastic. I've always hated working with film. And with RED just around the corner (in a manner of speaking), we'll be set!

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Is this software even worth looking at if I don't have a camera that supports RAW? I think it only saves jpgs, the only choices I get are low medium and high.
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Is this software even worth looking at if I don't have a camera that supports RAW? I think it only saves jpgs, the only choices I get are low medium and high.

Well, put it this way: if you paid even less for your camera than you'd pay for Aperture, Aperture probably isn't worth it.

It works fine with non-RAW images, but RAW is where it actually thrives.
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Well, put it this way: if you paid even less for your camera than you'd pay for Aperture, Aperture probably isn't worth it.

It works fine with non-RAW images, but RAW is where it actually thrives.

Except it doesn't support RAW files from quite a lot of important cameras! And the DNG support is flaky as well!
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Sure, but those are continuously improved.
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Except it doesn't support RAW files from quite a lot of important cameras! And the DNG support is flaky as well!

For clarification, could you name the cameras that you are so concerned about?
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Except it doesn't support RAW files from quite a lot of important cameras! And the DNG support is flaky as well!

And why are you dumping on Apple re DNG support?
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Is this software even worth looking at if I don't have a camera that supports RAW? I think it only saves jpgs, the only choices I get are low medium and high.

As this is SUPPOSED to be pro software, the answer is no. There are no cameras that this program makes worth using with it that don't have RAW.

A jpeg only camera is just made for snapshots. Stick with iPhoto.
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Except it doesn't support RAW files from quite a lot of important cameras! And the DNG support is flaky as well!

None of the semi- pro or pro converter programs support all RAW cameras. That's almost impossible. But, they add cameras every few months. Apple just added more, as did Adobe, and Photo Mechanic.
post #23 of 32
Updated to 1.51; it is much better. The loupe had been really jumpy on my G5 dual core, but not it is smooth. Now if they would just accept RAW data from my new Canon; supposedly the hyave added it, but I haven't checked with any new images (it does not work with previously imported one).

For me, my Canon XTi photos come in a little underexposed and not sharp enough. A preset takes care of this and I also make good use of the shadows enhancer (lots of my shots are in mountainous valleys where there are wide varieties in lighting). Tonight I will be setting up storage on external HDs, which Aperture allows.

 

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post #24 of 32
Apple's DNG support is lacking because there are essentially two kinds of DNG files: There are DNG files which contain the original Bayer sensor readout from the RAW file, and there are DNG files that have been converted to linear mode (not totally sure what that means). The second option is meant to ensure that you can use your DNG files with an application even if that application does not support the bayer matrix in your camera... It's a compatibility option - and Apple simply doesn't support linear DNG files.

So, essentially, Apple only supports DNG files made from supported RAW files, which eliminates one of the main advantages of DNG - improved compatibility and being able to use raw data in applications that haven't been patched to support your specific camera.
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Apple's DNG support is lacking because there are essentially two kinds of DNG files: There are DNG files which contain the original Bayer sensor readout from the RAW file, and there are DNG files that have been converted to linear mode (not totally sure what that means). The second option is meant to ensure that you can use your DNG files with an application even if that application does not support the bayer matrix in your camera... It's a compatibility option - and Apple simply doesn't support linear DNG files.

So, essentially, Apple only supports DNG files made from supported RAW files, which eliminates one of the main advantages of DNG - improved compatibility and being able to use raw data in applications that haven't been patched to support your specific camera.

rminkler, if your response was in reply to my question.

Considering the lack of a standard and the ongoing debates surrounding DNG, I just don't think that it is appropriate that Apple be centred out.

To me, Aperature is like many of Apple's phenomenons, that has triggered others to partake and either enhance its development and/or solicit others. Developing a solution to satisfy everybody is impossible. Giving one a choice go or bad, is not giving license to maliciously critique it as the language used by some seem to be doing.
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Apple's DNG support is lacking because there are essentially two kinds of DNG files: There are DNG files which contain the original Bayer sensor readout from the RAW file, and there are DNG files that have been converted to linear mode (not totally sure what that means). The second option is meant to ensure that you can use your DNG files with an application even if that application does not support the bayer matrix in your camera... It's a compatibility option - and Apple simply doesn't support linear DNG files.

So, essentially, Apple only supports DNG files made from supported RAW files, which eliminates one of the main advantages of DNG - improved compatibility and being able to use raw data in applications that haven't been patched to support your specific camera.

DNG Linear is retarded: at that point, you just have a TIFF file.

Why create a new file format for something that contains the same exact data as the most compatible lossless file format on the planet?
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JeffDM: There are some functions in Aperture that are fantastic that are not in iPhoto, and Aperture works great with jpeg (at the moment it doesn't read my cam's RAW output, so I am using it to work with my jpeg images).

The one funtion I am finding the most useful (outside of sharpen which I apply to every image as a default) is the adjust brightness and darkness of shadows. I live in a rather mountainous area and it is common for images to have bright sunlight at the top but dark shadow at the bottom, sometimes to the degree that the bottom is not very visible. Using Aperture, I can adjust all of this to make a clear photo with ease. Most importantly, I have things set to create a version of the phot to be edited, so the original stays unchanged incase Idon't like what I do to it.

Anybody try Aperture on a MacBook, yet? I'm planning to upgrade my old PB 15 (1.5GHz G4) and wisht to save the cash and go for the MB. I do not do intensive editing, but would like to have a first good look at my images in a coffee shot on the day of the shoot.

 

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JeffDM: There are some functions in Aperture that are fantastic that are not in iPhoto, and Aperture works great with jpeg (at the moment it doesn't read my cam's RAW output, so I am using it to work with my jpeg images).

The one funtion I am finding the most useful (outside of sharpen which I apply to every image as a default) is the adjust brightness and darkness of shadows. I live in a rather mountainous area and it is common for images to have bright sunlight at the top but dark shadow at the bottom, sometimes to the degree that the bottom is not very visible. Using Aperture, I can adjust all of this to make a clear photo with ease. Most importantly, I have things set to create a version of the phot to be edited, so the original stays unchanged incase Idon't like what I do to it.

Anybody try Aperture on a MacBook, yet? I'm planning to upgrade my old PB 15 (1.5GHz G4) and wisht to save the cash and go for the MB. I do not do intensive editing, but would like to have a first good look at my images in a coffee shot on the day of the shoot.

Unfortunately, it's those very functions, sharpen, and high light/shadow correction that are the most poorly implemented in Aperture.

PS does a far better job.
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Mmmm... they work well enough for me and they are within the app, so I don't need to launch PS; can do everything in one package, but I know that there is auto save or something like that so I will give it a try (PS, that is, form within Aperture).

I have honestly never really used PS, but I will have a try now that I have a new camera that is too much for iPhoto.

 

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Mmmm... they work well enough for me and they are within the app, so I don't need to launch PS; can do everything in one package, but I know that there is auto save or something like that so I will give it a try (PS, that is, form within Aperture).

I have honestly never really used PS, but I will have a try now that I have a new camera that is too much for iPhoto.

As long as you don't require the highest quality, then it's fine.
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I'm not a professional photographer and I also no longer get an academic discount on Adobe, which is a major factor in my choice to use Aperture. Organization, simplicity are others. I also simply like the UI better, but that is personal choice. Just want to make my photos look a little better than when they are imported (they all come in slightly under exposed and not as sharp as I would like) and to be able to organize them well and quickly compare between a couple of images when choosing which to print, all fo which Aperature does great for me.

Melgross: would you recommened a MB or a MBP for running Aperature in the field for lite editing but mainly just having a preview of the images taken and to give me something to do while I enjoy a cofffee? Or I should rephrase: how well will Aperature fair on a new Core 2 Duo MacBook?

 

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post #32 of 32
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I'm not a professional photographer and I also no longer get an academic discount on Adobe, which is a major factor in my choice to use Aperture. Organization, simplicity are others. I also simply like the UI better, but that is personal choice. Just want to make my photos look a little better than when they are imported (they all come in slightly under exposed and not as sharp as I would like) and to be able to organize them well and quickly compare between a couple of images when choosing which to print, all fo which Aperature does great for me.

Melgross: would you recommened a MB or a MBP for running Aperture in the field for lite editing but mainly just having a preview of the images taken and to give me something to do while I enjoy a cofffee? Or I should rephrase: how well will Aperature fair on a new Core 2 Duo MacBook?

What we saw at the Pro Photo Expo, here in NYC last week was the MBP running Aperture. They didn't, as far as I know have any Mac Book there. Even if they did it would have been the old model, even though the show would have been a good place to intro it, if it did run Aperture well. But, it's not a pro machine, so they didn't.

It seems to be a pretty fast machine, as long as you get a 2 GHz or faster chip with the 4MB of cache rather than the 1.83 and slower with the 2 MB.

Also you would need 2 GB RAM for best performance, particularly if Rosetta is important now. It really does run much faster with 2 GB.

If you are not doing pro work, you probably don't need the fastest machine, because you are not on a deadline, where your reputation is at stake. Therefore, a Mac Book should be fine.

The other thing is related to screen rez, and size. As you will see on the page linked to below, there is a big difference between the screens. Whatever you get, the screen will be very different. The Mac Book has only a glossy screen, not one I prefer for serious work, but possibly better for viewing DVD's where reflections aren't a problem. The screen is also smaller, and has less resolution on the Mac Books.

That's all up to you. If you don't mind scrolling around a lot, and magnifying a lot as well, then the smaller screen will also be fine.

Here is the spec page for both lines.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...D&nclm=MacBook
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