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Isn't that an emery board for your feet?
post #82 of 200
Oriental originally means "to rise" as in "where the sun rises" (aka East). This means the same as the Chinese word for Japan, and I'm sure the Japanese refer to themselves as the land of the rising sun?

Oh yes, according to the Wikipedia article, the idea that the term is derogatory seems to be an issue for North America, not an issue in many other parts of the world.

So sucks to you prejudiced gits with an American-centric view putting forward your imperialist views onto us!
post #83 of 200
I'm a Chinese here. Although I didn't read all the comments, it's indeed getting out of hand.
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post #85 of 200
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Originally Posted by Chucker

Their loss. It's an accurate term, more so than "Asian", as Booga pointed out.

It's a Euro-centric term. It pretty much means "the East," implying that Europe is hierarchically better than Asia, and that Asia is merely "that place to the East."
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Is it just me or did Balmer go on record as a child pornographer, offering to show us all pictures of him squirting on kids? Claiming it's an"excerience"?
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post #91 of 200
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Originally Posted by tbsstunta

Australia is part of Oceania, not Asia, and Australasia is a region of Oceania.

If it helps you sleep at night you are Australasian.

oh, ok...yeah time for sleep
wont take long now, thanks good advice
post #92 of 200
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post #93 of 200
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Originally Posted by icfireball

What the hell? I have never heard the slang "I'm going to [s]quirt you a picture of my (kids, vacation, etc)... WTF?^^

ROFLMAO You missed a fantabulous discussion we were having on this when he first said this like, just over a month ago or so...!!
post #94 of 200
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Originally Posted by tbsstunta

Australia is part of Oceania, not Asia, and Australasia is a region of Oceania.
If it helps you sleep at night you are Australasian.

Australia could be part of Asia but yeah some Australians don't like it. That's why rather than Oceania (Oceanic Airlines? Y'all been watching too much Lost)... Generally Australia is just referred to as part of "AsiaPacific" - most people sleep well with this. Also, Australasia is not commonly used. That's my take. I'd input some cultural and ethnic and residency and education background here so y'all understand where I'm coming from but for most people that have seen it, it's a pretty long complex situation with who I am, where I've been...
post #95 of 200
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Originally Posted by gregmightdothat

It's a Euro-centric term. It pretty much means "the East," implying that Europe is hierarchically better than Asia, and that Asia is merely "that place to the East."

That's so stupid.

It implies no such thing.

Using that logic, is a "Central European" hierarchically better than a "West European"?

How about those who live in the US' "South"?

"Where's your girlfriend from?"
"The Pacific Northwest."
"Watch your tongue! A lot of people are offended by archaic terms like that!"
"Huh?"

Not to mention that any Chinese couldn't possibly be offended by cultural centrism. What's the freaking Chinese name for China?

Oh, and Australians should be downright PISSED. Their entire countrinent is named after their geographical location.
post #96 of 200
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Originally Posted by tonton

"The Pacific Northwest."


how dare you use that derogative phrase
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post #99 of 200
A great visual -- Zune unpacking pr0n pics goodness and the utter dissapointment towards the end. I think the problem occurs even with XPee? I don't know. But anyways: http://www.flx-tech.net/2006/11/zune...bestbuy_1.html
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post #100 of 200
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Originally Posted by tonton

That's so stupid.

It implies no such thing.

Using that logic, is a "Central European" hierarchically better than a "West European"?

How about those who live in the US' "South"?

"Where's your girlfriend from?"
"The Pacific Northwest."
"Watch your tongue! A lot of people are offended by archaic terms like that!"
"Huh?"

Not to mention that any Chinese couldn't possibly be offended by cultural centrism. What's the freaking Chinese name for China?

Oh, and Australians should be downright PISSED. Their entire countrinent is named after their geographical location.

Because a country like, say the United States, has a finite area. There's clearly an East Coast and a West Coast.

The globe, as you may have heard, is round. China isn't on the "Eastern" part of the world, it's to the east of Europe.

And yes, I'm well aware that China calls itself the Middle Country.
post #101 of 200
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Originally Posted by gregmightdothat

Because a country like, say the United States, has a finite area. There's clearly an East Coast and a West Coast.

The globe, as you may have heard, is round. China isn't on the "Eastern" part of the world, it's to the east of Europe.

And yes, I'm well aware that China calls itself the Middle Country.

Well, I'm not offended when a Chinese, a person from the "Middle Country", calls me a Westerner. Even Australians are called "Westerners" in China. And I don't know a single one who is offended by that.
post #102 of 200
wow, what a delightful discussion about language! to add to the confusion: if you say oriental over here in continental europe, it will neither be derogative by any means nor even understood to refer to people from china, japan or other countries in the region. it will rather be used as a friendly, somewhat traditionalistic description for people from the area around turkey, syria, lebanon and so on. china and japan (among others) are referred to as the far east.

hope to not accidentally have hit another p.c.-sensitive spot now ... btw: "oriental" has been removed from the article in the meantime.

keep squirtin'
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Hmm Ive got a couple:

1. Ooh I cant believe their paying me this much to send out such crap...mmh squirting :P
2. Yay, Stevie said he would squirt me over the blueprints for the next great iPod.
3. Woot Im so happy I was able to shit that brick out and sell it to everyone.
4. Squirt on people, Squirt on
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post #104 of 200
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Originally Posted by tonton

Well, I'm not offended when a Chinese, a person from the "Middle Country", calls me a Westerner. Even Australians are called "Westerners" in China. And I don't know a single one who is offended by that.

Historically, "Westerner" has never been used pejoratively.
post #105 of 200
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Originally Posted by gregmightdothat

Historically, "Westerner" has never been used pejoratively.

Does that mean it was never lied about in a court of law?
post #106 of 200
You mean it was never used in a derogatory manner?

Well, neither has "Oriental". One day it was just like some white people in California were a little too sensitive PC wise and said "ooh... I think 'Oriental' is an un-pc term because it is Euro-centric!" and they told their Chinese friends at UC Berkeley, and the Chinese friends said, "yeah, you're right!" and a trend was started... just sayin'...
post #107 of 200
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Originally Posted by tonton

You mean it was never used in a derogatory manner?

Well, neither has "Oriental". One day it was just like some white people in California were a little too sensitive PC wise and said "ooh... I think 'Oriental' is an un-pc term because it is Euro-centric!" and they told their Chinese friends at UC Berkeley, and the Chinese friends said, "yeah, you're right!" and a trend was started... just sayin'...

Yes, I do mean in a derogatory manner. Good thing that pejorative and derogatory are synonymous :P

Look, I don't have a problem with the term oriental, but some people do, precisely because it is Eurocentric. I was just pointing that out. I'm not into getting into arguments are anything over it :P
post #108 of 200
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Originally Posted by pmoeser

Does that mean it was never lied about in a court of law?

You're thinking of "perjury." Pejorative is an entirely different term.
post #109 of 200
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Originally Posted by elroth

Blame it on Columbus - the idiot thought he found India, so he named Native Americans 'Indians'. Do you wonder why they don't like being called 'Indians'?

"Oriental" is a name given by white men to describe Chinese and other people. What is so hard to understand that people would like to be referred to by names of their own choosing, and not by the names given them by European colonizers?

It has nothing to do with 'political correctness', it has to do with respect. Understand, honky?

What a load of BS. So I have to be offended when I travel in China and the locals refer to me as a 'long nose' and not a name of my own choosing, i.e.English? If that's how the Chinese choose to refer to me then that's just fine.
post #110 of 200
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Originally Posted by chromos

'Asia' is more geographically correct. It is the name of a continent. 'The Orient' is like saying 'Never Never Land' -- you can't say where the boundaries are. It is also, as others have pointed out, a term relative to Europe.

And I like to call Caucasians 'caca-san'.

Call me cracker for all I care. I'm "caucasian" and while I know it's supposed to be derogatory, it really doesn't bother me.

Asia really isn't a continent either. Last I remember, Asia was generally considered to be the part of the continent that is east of the Ural mountain range, the European part to the west of same. It's been a long time since I've taken geography, but at least I don't think the magnetic poles have switched yet.
post #111 of 200
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Originally Posted by gregmightdothat

Because a country like, say the United States, has a finite area. There's clearly an East Coast and a West Coast.

The globe, as you may have heard, is round. China isn't on the "Eastern" part of the world, it's to the east of Europe.

And yes, I'm well aware that China calls itself the Middle Country.

It's also to the west of Europe. Just depends on which way you travel to get there.
post #112 of 200
Dude, this Zune stuff is really, insanely, bizarre!! Why would you have a picture like that?>??? :huh:
post #113 of 200
Can't wait till (if) the mainstream press pick's up on this.
post #114 of 200
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Originally Posted by smseedy13

Wow, people are still using the word oriental to describe Asians? This must be the time warp addition of Appleinsider or the writers need to get out and meet more people. What next? Using the word "colored"?

Man, you know it. When I was over in Iraq, some British bastard called me a "Continental"! Man, I almost put a bullet through his head for that! What an insult!

*NOTE FOR THE DIM WITTED* Yes, I'm being facetious.

Chill out guys. Though I don't use use Oriental in that fashion, I don't see any reason that anyone should take offense to it. It's like calling Americans 'Continentals'. Who cares?

I am glad for the original correction though, as I hadn't been aware of that particular grammatical rule before. Very interesting to think about.

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post #115 of 200
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Originally Posted by TenoBell

Some Asian people don't like to be called oriental. Just like black people don't like to be called colored.

Both nouns have a historically derogative context.

Some don't care that much. Some African Americans don't like being called Black either. Colored is correct but too general. Asians are colored too...or more PC "people of color". Hence Asians-Americans can join the NAACP...a mostly African-American organization.

Call people what they want to be called. Oriental and Colored are both archaic terms from a bygone era. Some folks might use them in a derogatory manner but for the most part I choose to believe that folks use them innocently.

Vinea

PS I hadn't been to the NAACP site in a while but they seem to have stripped out the more generic people of color pictures (I vaguely remember those on the membership pages) and its just black folks now. I guess they are concentrating more on their core constituency. Shame that but hey, whatever. Its never been a secret which community they serve and after the debacle of the 90s getting back to the core roots was a good idea.
post #116 of 200
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Originally Posted by countach

Oriental originally means "to rise" as in "where the sun rises" (aka East). This means the same as the Chinese word for Japan, and I'm sure the Japanese refer to themselves as the land of the rising sun?

Oh yes, according to the Wikipedia article, the idea that the term is derogatory seems to be an issue for North America, not an issue in many other parts of the world.

So sucks to you prejudiced gits with an American-centric view putting forward your imperialist views onto us!

Actually, the word Japan comes from the Chinese Jya-pen, which means land of the dwarfs, if I recall correctly. The Japanese word, Nihon means source of the sun.
post #117 of 200
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Originally Posted by bgramer

Can you believe he said "squirt" ???? When I think of squirt, i think of diarrhea.

This site says it best: http://www.microsoftshitbrick.com

No, that site is just low.
post #118 of 200
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Originally Posted by donlphi


This picture only represents the view of the upper half of Ballmer squirting kids.

BTW, funny someone with the name BALLmer coining the phrase "squirt"

too funny.
post #119 of 200
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Originally Posted by MacRR

This picture only represents the view of the upper half of Ballmer squirting kids.

BTW, funny someone with the name BALLmer coining the phrase "squirt"

too funny.

Supposedly, he didn't coin it, the last discussion we had on it, someone said that it was something like a HAM radio phrase. It was probably not a good choice to use it in that context though.
post #120 of 200
Someone said it was a military phrase....meaning what, I cannot imagine.
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