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Apple Computer's new Core 2 Duo MacBooks are selling like popsicles on a hot summer day, with orders for the month of November likely to reach 300,000 units.

According to the Chinese-language Commercial Times, Apple's build orders the 13-inch notebooks to Taiwanese manufacturing partner Asustek Computer are expected to rebound to 300,000 units this month.

Overall, Asustek's notebook shipments for the month -- including its own brand of systems -- are expected to reach 700,000, the Times said.

The paper added that the manufacturer's shipments dropped to 450,000-500,000 units in October, missing an original target of of 600,000 units because Apple was in the process of upgrading its MacBook line to faster Intel processors.

By shipping similar quantities of MacBooks in December, it's almost assured that Apple will handily eclipse the 1 million milestone for notebook shipments during its current quarter after sales of its professional MacBook Pro systems are factored into the mix.

In August, AppleInsider cited insiders as saying the Cupertino, Calif.-based Mac maker was tracking for shipments of 1 million notebooks systems during its December quarter.

The latest MacBook tallies also suggest the Street's current forecast for total Mac unit shipments during the quarter could once again prove to be conservative.

On average, analysts have been modeling Apple to sell between 1.6 million and 1.8 million during the three-month period ending December.
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Soon you can add uno mas from macrr on that number!
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wow, it's much much better than zune. 8) of course.
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wow, it's much much better than zune. 8) of course.

yeah but they don't come in brown !
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yeah but they don't come in brown !

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I just wish Apple would put a better GPU in the MacBook. That would get me to order one.
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Originally Posted by Macvault

I just wish Apple would put a better GPU in the MacBook. That would get me to order one.

So that means you're ordering one next year, right?
/I'm gonna wait till mid-end 2007 to join the Book world.
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The Zune is brown!!!11! Like poo!!!1!

Some jokes just get better each time you hear them!!
8) 8) 8)
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Originally Posted by Macvault

I just wish Apple would put a better GPU in the MacBook. That would get me to order one.

If they put a better GPU in the MacBook, the MacBook Pro would become almost pointless. It's not going to happen. Sure, they might put a *SLIGHTLY* better GPU in the MacBook over time, but if you want to do anything graphics-heavy, you're going to want a MacBook Pro, and that won't change.
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If they put a better GPU in the MacBook, the MacBook Pro would become almost pointless. It's not going to happen. Sure, they might put a *SLIGHTLY* better GPU in the MacBook over time, but if you want to do anything graphics-heavy, you're going to want a MacBook Pro, and that won't change.

I guess "consumers" don't play games on their MacBooks. Gaming must be something only "professionals" with MacBook Pros do.
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Originally Posted by Phizz

If they put a better GPU in the MacBook, the MacBook Pro would become almost pointless. It's not going to happen. Sure, they might put a *SLIGHTLY* better GPU in the MacBook over time, but if you want to do anything graphics-heavy, you're going to want a MacBook Pro, and that won't change.

You're wrong, only a matter of time before the MacBook gets a real GPU. The Pro book will just get a better one, and up to 4GB of RAM, 4MB L2/L3 cache, bigger screen, Pro styling, and faster proc. etc.
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mines 3 days old now.....i love it.
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I guess "consumers" don't play games on their MacBooks. Gaming must be something only "professionals" with MacBook Pros do.

The unfortunate thing about that is that a good gaming gpu can obviously do pro apps as well, so it works out to become a werid situation.

I believe that integrated gpus are here to stay in the mbs but integrated gpu tech will just get better, hopefuly to point of being pretty good to play the average game.
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that's 300,002 both of mine come tomorrow as per tracking and i will be
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The unfortunate thing about that is that a good gaming gpu can obviously do pro apps as well, so it works out to become a werid situation.

I believe that integrated gpus are here to stay in the mbs but integrated gpu tech will just get better, hopefuly to point of being pretty good to play the average game.

Yea, but why can't Apple build me exactly what I want??? Maybe I want a "pro" GPU, but I prefer 13 inch design over the 15 inch, I also prefer the plastic case over the metal Pro cases, etc. Come on Apple! Give us some fricken build-to-order options! I'll take the white Macbook, add a real GPU, and I'll pay you the extra $$$ for it. What's so hard about that?
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that's 300,002 both of mine come tomorrow as per tracking and i will be
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But you can run WINBLOZ if you want
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Originally Posted by Macvault

Yea, but why can't Apple build me exactly what I want??? Maybe I want a "pro" GPU, but I prefer 13 inch design over the 15 inch, I also prefer the plastic case over the metal Pro cases, etc. Come on Apple! Give us some fricken build-to-order options! I'll take the white Macbook, add a real GPU, and I'll pay you the extra $$$ for it. What's so hard about that?

I agree. Its pretty silly that they don't offer that. \

Its not like Apple's going to browbeat me into getting a $900 more expensive MacBook Pro just to get the better GPU. Uncharacteristically lame that they'd even want to try.

While I'm sure there's a lot of cute marketing and inventory reasons we can spout as to why Apple is being inflexible here, fact is more and more people are giving the Mac a look-see, and if what they find on the other side of the fence is inflexibility and sky-high pricing for what they really want, they'll just shrug and go back to the Evil Empire. That's just the way of it.

We're doing well but we could be doing better, if you know what I mean.

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Originally Posted by Macvault

Yea, but why can't Apple build me exactly what I want??? Maybe I want a "pro" GPU, but I prefer 13 inch design over the 15 inch, I also prefer the plastic case over the metal Pro cases, etc. Come on Apple! Give us some fricken build-to-order options! I'll take the white Macbook, add a real GPU, and I'll pay you the extra $$$ for it. What's so hard about that?

There's no way Apple can satisfy every possible custom desire - the products and SKUs they have chosen provide a simple understandable choice, and is enough for the vast majority of comsumers. They are not going to build a model in between the MacBook and MacBook Pro, and they are not going to offer technically unfeasible BTO option in the MacBook (e.g. serperate GPU card vs inegrated GPU). Your desire is valid, but it looks like you will have to make a choice between what they have.
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Originally Posted by Ireland

You're wrong, only a matter of time before the MacBook gets a real GPU. The Pro book will just get a better one, and up to 4GB of RAM, 4MB L2/L3 cache, bigger screen, Pro styling, and faster proc. etc.

Is this speculation or do you have a source? IMO, the MacBook GPU will always be integrated. I reckon they'll probably upgrade it to the (integrated) GMA3000 next, which is actually a lot better than the 950.
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Your desire is valid, but it looks like you will have to make a choice between what they have.

Or go to the PC side, which is offering more flexibility here, sadly.

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Or go to the PC side, which is offering more flexibility here, sadly.

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Exactly! If they're doing this then why can't Apple figure out how to do it?
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Exactly! If they're doing this then why can't Apple figure out how to do it?

Apple figure out what exactly?

Apple is a single vendor, yet you compare them to the entire offering of the pc world. There is not a single Major PC vendor where you can custom built PC with absolutely any compent that you want added.

Sure there are smaller shops that may build a pc to your exact standards, but they are not a major vendor like Dell, HP, ect...

So why are you trying to hold Apple to a standard that you don't Hold Dell, HP, Gateway (and on and on).

Surely you're not trying to say that you can go to Dell's website, pick out the cheapest notebook model and tell them that you want it with 2.33 GHz C2D, throw in an ATI X1950, DVD Burner, 802.11 Draft N, or anything else you can think of.

Nevermind, you can't. So stop bashing Apple because they can't do it either!
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Exactly! If they're doing this then why can't Apple figure out how to do it?

You're talking about Apple trying to match the combined offerings of all the PC manufacturers in the world. Yes, they could follow suit to a certain degree and offer the MacBook 3000, MacBook 3500, MacBook 4000, MacBook 4000GT, MacBook 4000GTS, etc, in which your desire would probably be catered for, but Apple's product emphasis is always on simplicity, consumer-awareness and clarity of choice. By doing this, I guess they do alienate the small minority of consumers who want a very custom BTO computer, but i think they'd lose out financially if they turned these priorities around.

It's the same story for the many users in these forums who want an Apple mid-range tower with no monitor. I'm sure if Apple saw a viable market and strategy in custom BTO Apple computers they would take it, but i reckon they may be happy enough where they are at the minute - and the share price ain't disagreeing.
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Intel will have better integrated video with Santa Rosa a few months from now.

BTW, doesn't Apple have more than one manufacturer besides Asustek making the MacBook now?
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Originally Posted by TBaggins

Or go to the PC side, which is offering more flexibility here, sadly.

That's in part because there are a half dozen major manufacturers, and if you don't have a preference for brand, then you get a lot of choices. If you chose on brand first, then that's quite limiting, isn't it? One valid point is that many makers, even those with a market a lot smaller than Apple, seem to offer more models, whereas Apple basically only has three notebook models, one or two of them simply priced out of the typical notebook market, depending on your point of view.
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Originally Posted by Phizz

Is this speculation or do you have a source? IMO, the MacBook GPU will always be integrated. I reckon they'll probably upgrade it to the (integrated) GMA3000 next, which is actually a lot better than the 950.

That's like saying Mac's will always have 4MB of RAM.
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Apple figure out what exactly?

Apple is a single vendor, yet you compare them to the entire offering of the pc world. There is not a single Major PC vendor where you can custom built PC with absolutely any compent that you want added.

Sure there are smaller shops that may build a pc to your exact standards, but they are not a major vendor like Dell, HP, ect...

So why are you trying to hold Apple to a standard that you don't Hold Dell, HP, Gateway (and on and on).

Surely you're not trying to say that you can go to Dell's website, pick out the cheapest notebook model and tell them that you want it with 2.33 GHz C2D, throw in an ATI X1950, DVD Burner, 802.11 Draft N, or anything else you can think of.

Nevermind, you can't. So stop bashing Apple because they can't do it either!

Oh, please.

The guy isn't asking for a notebook custom-configured to the subatomic level, he just wants a better GPU than stock. This is NOT that hard to do. Wander on over to Dell's site... you can order a laptop similar in price to the MacBook, but WITH a better (Nvidia) GPU than the stock Intel one if you so choose, and not for a back-breaking cost delta either ($129).

It's easy to cry "Oh no, we're only Apple, we can't do it", but that's just going to hold us back. Apple does a great many things that Dell can't do, or can't do right, and yet we argue for our limitations, why?

It's certainly not 'bashing' to point out that there are some things Apple could be doing better to cater to what potential customers actually WANT. Good lord man, it isn't chair-chucking Steve Ballmer saying these things, its people who WANT TO BUY MACS.


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That's in part because there are a half dozen major manufacturers, and if you don't have a preference for brand, then you get a lot of choices. If you chose on brand first, then that's quite limiting, isn't it? One valid point is that many makers, even those with a market a lot smaller than Apple, seem to offer more models, whereas Apple basically only has three notebook models, one or two of them simply priced out of the typical notebook market, depending on your point of view.

It isn't even that, really. It isn't a matter of having a lot of models, more being willing to customize to a good extent what models you do offer

Dell does. Apple could. But it chooses not to, beyond the most basic options. They could do better here, but I guess they figure that since they're selling all they can make right now, they do not HAVE to. That's short-sighted, IMO. \

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Oh, please.

The guy isn't asking for a notebook custom-configured to the subatomic level, he just wants a better GPU than stock. This is NOT that hard to do. Wander on over to Dell's site... you can order a laptop similar in price to the MacBook, but WITH a better (Nvidia) GPU than the stock Intel one if you so choose, and not for a back-breaking cost delta either ($129).

It's easy to cry "Oh no, we're only Apple, we can't do it", but that's just going to hold us back. Apple does a great many things that Dell can't do, or can't do right, and yet we argue for our limitations, why?

Because there are compromises that are needed to be made to make a notebook that someone wants to buy. Apple's notebooks are often a half an inch thinner than a Dell equivalent, I imagine that puts a damper on the ability to fit connectors and modules in.
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I think they feel the need to differentiate it from the Pro line of laptops.
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Originally Posted by Macvault

I just wish Apple would put a better GPU in the MacBook. That would get me to order one.

The black MacBook should have had a real GPU.
There are enough things missing from the MacBook that differentiate it from the Pro line...
Express Card slot, FW800, illuminated keyboard, full size DVI connector
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Because there are compromises that are needed to be made to make a notebook that someone wants to buy. Apple's notebooks are often a half an inch thinner than a Dell equivalent, I imagine that puts a damper on the ability to fit connectors and modules in.

More like less than an eighth of an inch.

The Dell notebook I cite is 1.20 inches thick. The MacBook is 1.08. If less than an eighth of an inch is what's holding us back, I'd take a sliver thicker MacBook that had more customizability, thanks. I imagine I'd be far from alone in that. 8)




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How are the pros selling any numbers
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The black MacBook should have had a real GPU.
There are enough things missing from the MacBook that differentiate it from the Pro line...
Express Card slot, FW800, illuminated keyboard, full size DVI connector

Not to mention the much better speakers on the Pro line.

And I fully agree. Right now the 'black tax' on the MacBook isn't worth paying.

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Apple does a great many things that Dell can't do, or can't do right, and yet we argue for our limitations, why?

In assessing in what what Apple should do with its notebooks you need to look past your own personal wish list and realize Apple is making these for the hundreds of thousands of other people buying them.

I agree Apple could operate more the way Dell does. But should it?

You cannot just look at what Dell does and suggest Apple should do the same. The two companies work with completely different philosophies and use different business practices.

Dell is a success at dominating market share, its production is geared towards being an efficient distributor, but does not make much profit and its stock is stagnant.

Apple's strength is nearly the exact opposite.

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The black MacBook should have had a real GPU.
There are enough things missing from the MacBook that differentiate it from the Pro line...
Express Card slot, FW800, illuminated keyboard, full size DVI connector.

I doubt Apple could add all of this keeping the black Macbook at the same price with the same profit margin.


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And I fully agree. Right now the 'black tax' on the MacBook isn't worth paying.

That may be true for you, but seeing the Macbook sales this is not true for everyone else.
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I do find it interesting though that under an article that states Apple will continue to sell more laptops than it ever has before. People set out to criticize that very laptop responsible for the record breaking sales.
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popular laptop. is the pro really any better for the avg user. minus GPU not much different. blackbook is a cool looking machine
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I do find it interesting though that under an article that states Apple will continue to sell more laptops than it ever has before. People set out to criticize that very laptop responsible for the record breaking sales.

That's a non-issue for purposes of the current discussion, though. It may very well be that Apple would sell even MORE laptops if only it would address some of the criticisms that we've been discussing.

What's the old adage? "Success obscures a variety of sins." Let's not be Apple apologists or bashers here- let's be happy that Apple is doing well, while at the same time realizing that they could be doing even better. 8)


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We can take it back to the fact that the far majority of laptops today are using integrated graphics. Even when Dell offers an dedicated graphics for additional price most people don't take it.

Its highly doubtful Apple would sell more Macbook's simply because of the GPU. Apple knows this which is the reason for the current configurations. Which also why Apple is currently making money hand over fist.
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We can take it back to the fact that the far majority of laptops today are using integrated graphics. Even when Dell offers an dedicated graphics for additional price most people don't take it.

That's why they call it 'customizing'. If everyone chose it, it would be stock. Everyone doesn't choose Apple's customization of larger hard drives either, yet Apple still offers it. Why? Because a significant minority of users want it, and are willing to pay for it.

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Its highly doubtful Apple would sell more Macbook's simply because of the GPU.

Interesting, considering that Apple seems to feel that it would sell more iMacs by offering a choice on GPU.

You do know that Apple ALREADY offers a choice to upgrade the GPU in the iMac line, for both the 20-inch and 24-inch models, right? These are not prohibitively expensive 'pro' machines either, but consumer desktops. So it's not really a big leap to 'extend the love' to the consumer MacBook line-up. 8)

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