Originally Posted by addabox
UH, right, which is why I said
I was just elaborating.
At any rate, on the particular point of copy control on user generated files, I'm guessing MS didn't even try that hard. Doesn't it seem likely that MS approached the labels explicitly emphasizing their willingness to "work with" the industry, unlike that bastard Steve Jobs and his arrogant high-handedness?
I imagine that Jobs approached the industry the same way. There wasn't any word of the industry being unhappy with Apple when the deal was first done. Just now, that Apple controls the downloads. Can't blame the industry for being nervous about that.
Just seems like a no-brainer: "We will help you break the choke hold that Jobs has got you in. We know you hate it, just tell us what you want and we'll throw the might of MS behind the push and you can get a partner that understands how business is done, instead of some damn hippy who thinks he's all that".
Oh, I'm sure that there was at least the implication of that. I don't know if it was actually said out loud. If so, MS didn't get the best deal out of it.
So when it comes to something like "copy protection on everything wireless" does MS suddenly stand up and say "oh, hell no, the kids won't stand for it- lets work out a solution that protects your assets but allows some flexibility"?
It's been said in articles, and I said it too, that MS has no power in the music download area. They only have a bad history with their "Plays For Sure" software and marketing. They would not likely have had the persuasivie abilities that Jobs had when the industry was swinging in the wind with internat sales. If they hit MS with too much , they wouldn't have lost sales at all, just some possible control, and what's to say that they trust MS all that much?
I'm guessing not, because copy protection at that level is so completely unnecessary, if you're willing to spend a little time engineering a solution. I think I read somewhere that the official explanation is that "there is no way to distinguish between copyrighted and non-copyrighted material", but we know that is nonsense. It's just that it's the easiest solution, and the one that takes the least time to explain to the suits.
I don't know if they can tell the difference, but you are right in that what was done was the easiest solution.
Actually, this is good for Apple.
If they can tell the difference, and it was the easiest solution, then Apple can do their own solution that will put this one to shame. Apple doesn't shy away from doing what is hard, even if it takes longer. MS might have been time limited in needing to have product for this holiday season.
We just have to hope that whatever MS and the industry have done together has locked it in stone for them.