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post #81 of 135
12/4/06 at 1:13pm
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post #82 of 135
12/4/06 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by JupiterOne

Which is why I still have this 3 year old phone. No one has made one the same size with a full keyboard. \


i have the same phone, well similar, slightly older version, the 6820, then the 6822 came out, recently nokia brought out the E70 which is about as close to the 682x as you can get.
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post #83 of 135
12/4/06 at 2:27pm
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Originally Posted by 1984

An evil necessity for some, not most.

Honestly, in my circle of NYC younger professionals, land lines are unnecessary and a waste of money. I, personally, don't have one and I would have no reason, since when I am not at work or studying, I am either asleep or out. Not being an obnoxious jerk has become a big thing for me and others, since everyone has so many gadgets, but there are still plenty out there to fuel rants.

And getting tied to the phone is a silly complaint, because a) you're tied to a phone at work and at home, and b) you just don't have to pick up. If a person keeps calling you, it damn well better be an emergency, or they are just not reasonable people.

So I wholeheartedly support the etiquette cards - get some responsibility into consumer products. If Apple put it on a card, people would follow the rules. The worst is in (live) theaters, when people just have no respect for what is going on onstage and the strain their ringing puts on the actors.

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post #84 of 135
12/4/06 at 2:27pm
This rumor is very believable. If the phone is truly available to any carrier and not just Cingular, I'll rejoice because I can finally replace my now-dead 1G iPod Mini and Sanyo SCP-6000 (0.33" thin) that I've had for the last 4.5 years...all in one fell swoop.



Heck yeah on the etiquette card idea although I agree with the poster who said it's not a cell phone thing, just a modern culture thing (at least in America).
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post #85 of 135
12/4/06 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by Slewis

I never did understand Text Messages

I'd rather use a Keyboard, and send an Email or an IM. Even more preferable is Voice or Video chat and what's even better then that is talking in person, though that isn't always possible.

It all comes down to...drum roll please....convenience! How is one supposed to write a message to someone if a) they don't have the internet b) have the internet and dont have a computer, c) are in a situation where they can't talk or, d) are in a situation where they know the recipient can't talk? Text messaging - perfect solution... No internet, computer, or "talk space" are needed - just type away and send!

Now, one might argue that if you are in a situation where you can't talk, you don't need to type a message. I say go back to college and sit in class and try to go 2 hours without feeling the urge to talk to someone in the "outside"

Anyways - people are so ignorant when it comes to phone usage. It's horrible. I worked at my college's library and some GIRL (typical..) waltzed through the building with SPEAKER phone on, and talking like the recipient was 10 feet away.... Sadly, its the norm nowadays...
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post #86 of 135
12/4/06 at 2:37pm
. . .so it seems as though the question is not whether or not to have a cell phone, but if the machine will be as useful, unobtrusive. . .and as cool as is possible.

Even poor cell phones are somewhat useful, if awkward to use; and the smaller the better, at least to me--but very few cell phones are actually cool and give the user that "wow" factor. . .and that is why we need Apple to bring this product out soon.

Also agree with the poster above who laments waiting till 2007 and missing the next 3 weeks of holiday buying. I'd buy 2 myself.
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post #87 of 135
12/4/06 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by wirc

Honestly, in my circle of NYC younger professionals, land lines are unnecessary and a waste of money. I, personally, don't have one and I would have no reason, since when I am not at work or studying, I am either asleep or out. . . .

Seriously. I put on about 120 mins a month, but I need to have a mobile phone because I'm out most of the time, and because at this stage it's expected that I have one. But at 120 mins a month, there's absolutely no reason for me to get a POTS or VOIP phone at home, and pay money for something I'm never going to use.

But I am eagerly awaiting the iPhone. I sometimes go for long walks at night, and it would be nice if I didn't have to fumble around when someone calls. Plus, Sprint only carries flip phones and blackberries right now -- the former of which I don't like and the latter of which I don't need -- but I'm not willing to ditch the unbeatable voice quality and data-speed that Sprint has. It would be great if the iPhone works with Sprint. The GSM networks have such awful voice quality, and I'm not a big fan of Verizon.
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post #88 of 135
12/4/06 at 3:01pm
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post #89 of 135
12/4/06 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by MacCentric

This is more the result of people who let the technology control them rather than remain in control of the technology and use it as a tool.

I have a cell phone, but there are plenty of times when I have it set to silent or left in my car. For instance if I am on a date or something, I will not answer. The same thing with the land line phone on my desk at work, if I am having a meeting with someone, I set the phone to do not disturb.

I believe that there is a way to live with the technology without it controlling you. I also believe that you can get along without it. Many places where I rock climb have no service and I don't miss it one bit.

I couldn't agree with you more. I hate when technology "intrudes" into my life or my work. However, the interesting little side-effect of NOT picking up my phone everytime it rings is that I now get irate and/or irritable callers who leave testy messages, "I tried your work phone and your cell phone...I even IM'd you...I need you to respond ASAP."
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post #90 of 135
12/4/06 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich

Expect Steve to put out a contract on Kevin Rose, and Boba Fett, Dengar, Bossk, IG-88, 4-LOM, Zuckuss and Aurra Sing to answer the call.


I have $20.00 on Boba Fett...heck make it $50.
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post #91 of 135
12/4/06 at 5:12pm
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Originally Posted by Slewis

You connect to i(internet)Tunes which downloads Tunes off the Internet.

I've never heard the i(internet)mac deal before. Who thought of it? It makes no sense at all. Sure you could stretch a bit and it could apply to some "i" products, but most of them it doesn't. ipod has nothing to do with internet. iphoto has nothing to do with internet (not as it's main purpose anyways, and it certainly didn't when it was first released). same with imovie and idvd.

maybe instead of safari it should be called "i", short for internet...
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post #92 of 135
12/4/06 at 5:27pm
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post #93 of 135
12/4/06 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by -dF

That JUST happened to my 60GB iPod Photo. I was just riding in my car and it quit, gave me the sad iPod face.

It was doing the sad face for 4 days until I could find time to take it to the Apple Store. I swear the girl behind the Genius Bar had the proverbial "magic touch" because as soon as she touched it it turned on fine and played music and all that good stuff iPods are supposed to do. And I was all like, "I swear it was sad just a minute ago!"

Anyway, it's better now, which is good since I didn't get Apple Care for it (stupid). But it was strange. It happened just after I upgraded to iTunes 7, which made me a bit suspicious. I hope it works out for you, though.

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uh oh, thats how mine started. I don't live close to a genius bar so i googled it and found, what I call, the brute force fix. Next time you get the sad face, drop your ipod from about 1.5-2 feet on a CARPETED surface. I bet it gets it working for you.

Mine did that for the first time a few months ago and it started happenning more and more often. Now it's totally kaput.

Through all this I found out how to get to a "system menu" or something ON the iPod. When you reset it, AS SOON as the apple logo appears, press and hold 'select' and 'back' or 'rewind' you have to do it right after you reset it. It will reset again and enter a diagnostic menu. I'm pretty sure this is what they do to see whats wrong with it when you send it in for repairs. You can do everything from checking the LCD to checking the click wheel and running full harddrive and memory scans.

It's pretty neat and I've never heard of it before, I jsut happened to get there by button mashing.
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post #94 of 135
12/4/06 at 5:42pm
I'm on the side of hoping Apple is not offering this to all mobile carriers.

The entire reason I would want an Apple phone is for it to be an extension of my computer. I want all of the functionality of my phone to be open and usable. That would be more in line with Apple's way of working.

Its far more likely Apple can negotiate to work with one carrier and have all of the phones functionality working without having to pay an extra charge for everything.

There is no way Apple could negotiate such a plan with all of the mobile carriers. That would make the Apple phone pretty much like all the other phones.

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I've never heard the i(internet)mac deal before.

Yes originally the "i" in iMac was for the internet. Later Apple used "i" for all consumer level products.
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post #95 of 135
12/4/06 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by psilopsyche

I'm most excited about having integrated iCal to help me get things done rather than having 8 million post-it's in my pocket. Plus of course it would be nice to have my favorite music at my fingertips plus a phone in just one device.


I second this! Most phones (non-smart) have poor calendar function even for simple scheduling. Smart phones are nice, but most aren't really compatible (none?) with iCal (not the way I'd like them to be). I've been holding off on upgrading for a phone that really works well. Here's to hoping the iPhone is everything I'm looking for!
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post #96 of 135
12/4/06 at 8:28pm
Logically it makes sense for Apple to start selling cell phones that are good at playing music because they might be able to get a pretty big slice of pie, but for some reason it seems a little awkward for a company like Apple. They just don't strike me as a cell-phone/communications company. Motorola, LG, Sony, etc have a long line up of phones... what makes anybody thing that Apples line up of one phone in two models will be THAT much improved so as to make people buy it. And how is Apple going to deal with discounts? Most phones, no matter how nice, even the RAZR and Chocolate, were bought because they were deeply discounted, even to the point where the provider company looses money on the phone to gain money on the plan. This just dosn't seem like something that is very Apple with their strict pricing. Do you think Apple will sell the phones to providers allowing them to make their own extreme discounts with signing of a contract, where Apple profits off of the sale of the phone but the company subsided the phone to rake in a contract?

And random thought: 1111 posts!
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post #97 of 135
12/4/06 at 8:49pm
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Originally Posted by TenoBell

I'm on the side of hoping Apple is not offering this to all mobile carriers.

The entire reason I would want an Apple phone is for it to be an extension of my computer. I want all of the functionality of my phone to be open and usable. That would be more in line with Apple's way of working.

Its far more likely Apple can negotiate to work with one carrier and have all of the phones functionality working without having to pay an extra charge for everything.

There is no way Apple could negotiate such a plan with all of the mobile carriers. That would make the Apple phone pretty much like all the other phones.

Apple will most likely be selling unlocked phones.
You will not be able to get an iPhone directly from Cingular, tmobile or verizon.

The bad thing is you will pay full price for these phones.
The good news is they won't be mucked up with junk software by your carrier or crazy limitations on the bluetooth(yes! i'm looking at you verizon)

I was hoping Apple would go MVNO right off the bat.
Now I'm thinking they will sell unlocked iPhones first and gauge the success.
Then based on the feedback design the 2nd gen iPhones and negotiate a better MVNO deal.
I think Apple will launch their MVNO in 2008 along a full assortment of phones and express cards for our MacBook Pros.
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post #98 of 135
12/4/06 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by icfireball

Logically it makes sense for Apple to start selling cell phones that are good at playing music because they might be able to get a pretty big slice of pie, but for some reason it seems a little awkward for a company like Apple. They just don't strike me as a cell-phone/communications company. Motorola, LG, Sony, etc have a long line up of phones... what makes anybody thing that Apples line up of one phone in two models will be THAT much improved so as to make people buy it. And how is Apple going to deal with discounts? Most phones, no matter how nice, even the RAZR and Chocolate, were bought because they were deeply discounted, even to the point where the provider company looses money on the phone to gain money on the plan. This just dosn't seem like something that is very Apple with their strict pricing. Do you think Apple will sell the phones to providers allowing them to make their own extreme discounts with signing of a contract, where Apple profits off of the sale of the phone but the company subsided the phone to rake in a contract?

And random thought: 1111 posts!

Congrats on 1111!

As for contracts, they suck. For my second time in a row I got suckered into a contract. I think Apple is going to do what Apple does best and control it's own Enviornment. If not then I'll continue looking for a phone I actually want to use
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post #99 of 135
12/4/06 at 8:58pm
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Congrats on 1111!

As for contracts, they suck. For my second time in a row I got suckered into a contract. I think Apple is going to do what Apple does best and control it's own Enviornment. If not then I'll continue looking for a phone I actually want to use

But they cant really afford to do this for two reasons:

1) The carriers want to control the environment. Period.
--- the way Apple MIGHT be able to get away with controlling the market is the fact that they now have control of the content distribution patent, that that is not likely that will have much of an influence.

2) The vast majority of people bought their phone on a contract, continue to buy their phones on contracts, and will continue to do so because nice phones become suddenly cheap and in most cases, there is no real reason to switch anyways.
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post #100 of 135
12/4/06 at 10:20pm
I like the idea but somehow I don't think an etiquette card will be enough...

J.J. Payne, a 17-year-old senior at Mission High School in San Francisco, carries two cell phones with him wherever he goes. He uses his white Nokia phone with a MetroPCS plan to make local calls and his silver Motorola phone with a Cingular plan to make long-distance calls.

Throw in his text messages, which he sends "every 5 minutes," and his downloaded ring tones -- the current tune of choice being a Snoop Dogg hit - - and Payne regularly owes well over $100 a month in cell phone charges.

Sometimes he goes without lunch so he can pay the bills. Making the payments, Payne says, is more stressful than getting good grades or applying for college.

"I feel like sometimes I could do without the phones -- that I could be more productive putting it toward my needs instead of my wants," he said.

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post #101 of 135
12/4/06 at 10:53pm
me wants an iPhone... besides the calander tool my Razr is a piece of crap, no brand loyalty here, if Apple made the razr, it'd still be a piece of crap.

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post #102 of 135
12/5/06 at 1:16am
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Originally Posted by benvon

I don't know... this one has been a rumor so long that beer + rumor-mongering + too-good-to-be-true doesn't leave me with much confidence.

You got to take the buzzz up a notch: I prescribe a dash of 6 shots of Jaegermeister within a 5-minute period, and you'll believe the Zune will beat the iPod in sales next month... and that this iPhone stuff is true... and that AppleInsider is actually run by an alien from the future.
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post #103 of 135
12/5/06 at 1:18am
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Originally Posted by Ireland

me wants an iPhone... besides the calander tool my Razr is a piece of crap, no brand loyalty here, if Apple made the razr, it'd still be a piece of crap.

To all those with Motos and Nokias --- SONY ERICSSON....!!!! Try it!! You won't regret it. Unless of course the iPhone rocks and comes out two days after you buy your SonyE. phone. muah hah aha hhaha h aah ha
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post #104 of 135
12/5/06 at 2:58am
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella

I doubt there will be a single iPhone that works with all these standards.
More likely there will be seperate GSM, CDMA and PCS versions.

Why? Just about every CDMA phone in the UK can revert to GSM automatically when there is no CDMA network available. (The GSM network had about 98% of the UK covered before CDMA came along).
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post #105 of 135
12/5/06 at 3:21am
i don't understand you overseas people, back in europe GSM is huge. Just because all providers use the same system (General Standard for Mobile) there is a lot of competition on contracts, so you pay less when you phone/SMS. SMS is all over the place.
I don't understand people nagging 'bout locked phones, in Holland there's a whole industry unlocking every phone (easy enough with the right software). In Belgium it's even illegal to sell a phone which is locked with one provider.

Don't be a slave to cell phone providers, buy the phone of your choice. And let's all hope Apple comes out with GSM/SMS/GPRS/3G compatible IPhone.
BTW Sony Ericsson is proving right now flash based MP3 player/phone with good battery life is possible.
Just give me ITunes compatibility and i'll buy one!
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post #106 of 135
12/5/06 at 3:31am
I'm hoping to see no keyboard on this it's hardly Apple's style. Surely using OS X/Newton's Ink technology is more likely.

One thing for sure is that we are all going to be disappointed with the specs. I really don't believe Apple can walk in to the market day one and match the features packed in to a SonyEricsson.
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post #107 of 135
12/5/06 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by mrtotes

Why? Just about every CDMA phone in the UK can revert to GSM automatically when there is no CDMA network available. (The GSM network had about 98% of the UK covered before CDMA came along).

Are you talking about GPRS? That's not the same thing as CDMA in America.
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post #108 of 135
12/5/06 at 4:41am
any one counting for MWSF? Sunil are you there?

what will be the compatibility with PC? first version will be Mac Only lik the initial iPod?

Moto silver is nice phone with good form factor and sleek and sexy...(of course it is not that smart)

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post #109 of 135
12/5/06 at 5:17am
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella

Kevin only has deets on the hardware...not that interesting other than the dual battery thing.
The real juicy stuff is going to be done in software.
Verizon, Cingular and Sprint aren't software companies thats why their phones are all mucked up.
Apple is a software company and this phone will have an amazing OS/user experience.

Well, the above aren't hardware companies either. Well, not as far as making phones anyways.
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post #110 of 135
12/5/06 at 5:45am
apple doesnt have to conquer the mobile phone market, right away or at all. They are doing just fine and will survive without an iphone.

further more i'm sure they will release a GOOD product right from the start to fight the uphill battle. Unlike the zune, which is a "five year war" or a lousy excuse to enter the market with a pos. you want to sell product? make it good. and apple gets that
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post #111 of 135
12/5/06 at 6:52am
Apple won't have to control the mobile phone industry, I just hope they provide a good replacement for the seemingly dead Palm OS. Windows Mobile kind of isn't an option and I'm not sure I like the idea of Symbian

If they don't announce/release an iPhone by August though.... I'll be getting a Sony E. like I should've done in the first place.
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post #112 of 135
12/5/06 at 9:23am
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Originally Posted by backtomac

You're right, I'd much rather be tethered to a cord.

Funny that you think having a phone with you all the time *frees" you from a tether, when in fact it is a far more insidious leash. (I won't be buying an iPhone, by the way, because I'm not seduced by the marketing message that I need the world to be permanently in touch with me.)
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post #113 of 135
12/5/06 at 9:39am
So, they found the Kim family... but now Kevin Rose is missing...

*BREAKING NEWS*: The dismembered body of Kevin Rose found scattered around the country randomly scattered in with newly shipping iPod shuffles. More at 11:00, after My Name Is Earl.

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post #114 of 135
12/5/06 at 9:43am
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Funny that you think having a phone with you all the time *frees" you from a tether, when in fact it is a far more insidious leash.

Well let me put it to you this way. As a healthcare provider, I could carry a cell phone and if a patient, nurse or someone else needed to reach me then no problem. Otherwise I could stay at home and sit by the phone. Not a hard decision for me.

You know you could always get voicemail and let it take messages when you wish for privacy. Most people complaining about cell phones don't use them correctly IMO.
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12/5/06 at 10:30am
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Well let me put it to you this way. As a healthcare provider, I could carry a cell phone and if a patient, nurse or someone else needed to reach me then no problem. Otherwise I could stay at home and sit by the phone. Not a hard decision for me.

You know you could always get voicemail and let it take messages when you wish for privacy. Most people complaining about cell phones don't use them correctly IMO.

Are you operating your cell phone in the hospital? They always warn you to turn them off before entering the hospital. Don't tell me it's all an urban myth.

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post #116 of 135
12/5/06 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich

Are you operating your cell phone in the hospital? They always warn you to turn them off before entering the hospital. Don't tell me it's all an urban myth.

No. That's the point. With a cell phone you can leave the hospital.
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post #117 of 135
12/6/06 at 12:07am
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Originally Posted by a-maze

BTW Sony Ericsson is proving right now flash based MP3 player/phone with good battery life is possible... Just give me ITunes compatibility and i'll buy one!

Totally dude. Word. 8)
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post #118 of 135
12/6/06 at 12:10am
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Originally Posted by mrtotes

.... I really don't believe Apple can walk in to the market day one and match the features packed in to a SonyEricsson.

The iPhone may not match all the tons of features packed into the SonyE, but the iPhone can certainly do well on the *most important* of those features, iTunes integration, iPod-like interface and snazzy new phone interface. Steve Jobs has probably bought like the latest 15 models of SE, 15 models of Nokia, 20 models of Moto (who so miserably failed in their "iTunes enabled" rubbish phones) and said to his peoples, "We can do this better, not everything at once, but we sure can do this better...!".
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post #119 of 135
12/6/06 at 12:12am
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Originally Posted by Slewis

Apple won't have to control the mobile phone industry, I just hope they provide a good replacement for the seemingly dead Palm OS. Windows Mobile kind of isn't an option and I'm not sure I like the idea of Symbian

Symbian owns your ass. Period. 8) ...Er... except in the US. ...Image:




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Originally Posted by Slewis

If they don't announce/release an iPhone by August though.... I'll be getting a Sony E. like I should've done in the first place.

Yup.
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post #120 of 135
12/6/06 at 12:15am
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Originally Posted by shanmugam

any one counting for MWSF? Sunil are you there?

Thanks for your thoughts ShanMugam, and we finally know what city you're in now. Oregon - no sales tax. You lucky bastard. 8)

Nah, I've mentioned previously, I'm boycotting myself from doing the MWSF countdown. Too much noise in the signal, so to speak.
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