For the fun of it, enter your Mock-ups for an Apple HD TV here!!

Rolo?

Oh, Rolo?

Weeeee... it has to have a razor-thin black bezel around the entire frame, which is completely transparent save for a ghost of a frosted Apple logo right smack in the bottom middle of the frame. There are no visible buttons, but when operational, the logo goes dark, instead of glowing, as to not distract the viewer from the video. The wall-mount is unique... Due to the ultra-thin flexible membrane used for the screen, the entire HDTV slides into the mount from the side, like an old fashioned large format camera negative, and the entire screen can be carried with one hand. All of the connections other than a single power cable to the set are ultra wideband wireless. That was fun... now, anyone with the time, try to render that.

JP.

But for real...



I did a crude mock up. Had I tried harder, it would be white/black glossy, because I think if Apple did a TV, it would not be pro-silver.

How 'bout my Apple HDTV, Ireland? Give it a render.

Humm.... don't think so


I doubt Apple will ever make a TV.
I think they will make a larger Cinema Display monitor (40"+) that could be used as TV if you want.
Nothing besides that. Sorry.

OK, let's see who will be wrong down the road.
Just give me a good reason or argument why Apple would make a TV.

What do you mean by we? Have you actually looked at the market for flatpanel TV sets? It is very, very soft. You find flat panels everywhere. Drive by Rent-A-Center, Office Depot, Sears, Wal-Mart, Radio Shack, and almost every other retailer. Prices have been dropping like a stone with no bottom in sight. Certainly Apple has a contribution to make to these devices. It can bring sanity to the complexity of their remote controls. However, there is no way that Apple can make a profit in this market. If Apple can't profit in the market, Apple won't enter the market.

Hi Mr. Me,
Yes you are right. This is one reason.
Here a few more reasons why I think there is no interest of Apple in joining this market.

• We have many HDTV sets out there that are outstanding. Pioneer Elite 1080 is one. Just fantastic. It's a crowded market with great products and like you said prices are falling fast.

• Steve is not TV number one fan.

• Apple is focusing in what will drive Mac sales. Period. Ipod came to drive that, maybe the iPhone will do the same. The integration between software and hardware is what Apple wants to bring customers to switch to Macs.
Why would a television fall in this category? What benefit would an Apple TV bring to the table?

• Apple in the past did printers and digital cameras. They dropped their development when they saw the competitors were doing great products and the prices of these things were falling. I remember the LaserWriter was great product. But now with so many cheap and great printer choices out there. Would that be really profitable to still in that market? Talk about digital cameras!

• Apple needs to focus on Computers. I am not crazy of the idea of venturing too far on consumer electronics. Let's please keep the focus on hardware and software for the Macintosh.

Like I said earlier, I believe a larger Cinema display will eventually show up. Apple could bring a TV capability to the same to drive more sales. But I have hard time imagining Apple making a HDTV set just for the sake of watching TV.

Cheers!

Yes, and Apple will still charge twice what it costs from other vendors...

Humm... OK if you want to believe that, that's fine.
I don't see a huge compeling reason at all in your list.

but hey,
Have fun with your mock-ups.

Yeah, probably. But I'll try my best to get one!

... or not.

to be honest i dont see the point of this... sorry mate but i dont.

IF they make a TV it will have a screen,

it will be userfriendly but likely have an ADVANCED setting for adding a computer input, or accessing extra features like freeview recording (do you get freeview down there? im too lazy to search) -- actually thats a whole other topic... oh well why not, but ill do it at the end

it will look stylish.

the last point is where i see that they WONT do it.

everyone can justify upgrading a monitor every few years for reasons of a bigger screen, a fading back light etc. but who wants to justify another 1000 plus notes ?? every so often.. assuming you can get the screen size you want and your backlight has a VERY long life.. it WONT be fashionable for long... look at the fequancy of updates in the ipod range as example.

i realise aTV is not an ipod, but i feel that what im saying has merit.

ok so you get an Apple TV and access to "advanced features" and so can add features in the form of OS updates, that would be interesting and keep a loyal user base happy PLUS give Apple some more headline grabbing news.
but then thats basically what the xbox ps3 and to a lesser extent the Wii are doing... and THEY will have a limited shelf life.

ok i know in Ireland one tends to hold on to a TV till the cows have came home been milked slaughtered and the farm down sized and maybe im just not in step... but i think at least SOME of that, is why theres no TV.. and their wont be for a long time YET.

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ARGH my eyes are going and i cant see right.. ok Freeview, has RTE bought up bandwidth or not? ive heard different things frm different scources, the TV3 reception here is "snowy" to say the least and TG4 is pointless so it would be REALLY cool to be able to go digital with them any news greatfully accepted!

Not at all. If the Apple TV is great why not buy it?

You not getting my point. I am not against the Apple TV, I just see no reason at all for Apple to make one. Like I said, The market is crowded with great TVs, it's the opposite of the mp3 market when Apple saw an opportunity to make the iPod. That's why Apple won't go after the camcorder, digital cameras, printer, etc markets. They are all crowded with great products and low prices and joining these markets will not bring Apple new switchers to buy their Macs.

That's why the iPhone if ever come out, might help Apple with the halo effect to bring more people into the Macintosh. Just like the iPod did. It's all about the integration of software and hardware.

wow, man you don't get it.
I know if Apple makes a TV will be cool. yes, I probably would buy it, if the price is right, etc.

What I am saying there's no reason to do it. It won't bring more switchers to buy Macs. Just go back a read my posts and reflect a bit.

Cell phone market is entirely different than the TV market. People upgrade their cell phones usually every 2 years (not TVs.). The phones on the market now, some are cool but there is not a seamless way and cool way to sync your phone info to a computer. People would like the idea of carrying one device instead of two. that's why iPod and a phone would be nice combo. It's an opportunity to Apple to bring more switchers.

Like I said if you want to believe the Apple TV is coming, good for you. keep having fun with your mock-ups.
Cheers dude!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The Cell Phone market, here in the US anyways, is a JOKE!! I'm sick of trying to find the perfect phone that does what I need because there is none. Maybe if I took all the models that come close and put them together like a Jig Saw Puzzle it would come close, but mainly I need something that Works with my Mac via Bluetooth and I need to easily install applications. The first one I could find easily, but Palm is fading to black which means the only compelling Smartphones are using Windows Mobile.

You're both arguing the wrong thing though, Apple is already entering the TV market, ahem... iTV. It's just not the way you imagine they would, but it actually makes much more sense because they can rely on the iPod/iTunes fanbase for that "Halo" effect.

Sebastian

May I suggest a Universal Remote?

Man, you sound like Rolo!

Slewis is correct. There is nothing inherent in an Apple TV which would solve your problem. You need a universal remote that is truly universal.

Black bezel. Improves visible contrast.

Apologies if this sounds a bit dumb... but.

Apple HDTV = iMac (screwed to wall) + digital audio out (to your av amp) + version of elgato

therefore - all apple beauty, cd player, dvd player, itunes, tv, internet on one screen.

they just need to make a 32" one.

-al

hahahaha, you make me laugh.
Actually Rolo is back after a long hiatus.
You should say hello to him. He might create a mock-up for you!

Sorry, my Photoshop CS3 trial is now dead