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Poll Results: 2007 HD-DVD and/or Blue-Ray Buying Plans

 
  • 4% (3)
    I already have a HD-DVD/XB add-on player
  • 9% (7)
    I already have a B-R/PS3 player
  • 1% (1)
    I already have a HD-DVD/XB add-on player and will buy a B-R/PS3 player in 2007
  • 0% (0)
    I already have a B-R/PS3 player and will buy a HD-DVD /XB add-on player in 2007
  • 5% (4)
    I will buy a HD-DVD/XB add-on player in 2007
  • 19% (14)
    I will buy a B-R/PS3 player in 2007
  • 1% (1)
    I will buy both a HD-DVD/XB add-on and B-R/PS3 player in 2007
  • 16% (12)
    If one format wins in 2007 I’ll buy that
  • 31% (23)
    Not buying in 2007, regular DVD is fine for now
  • 9% (7)
    Who cares, I just want to see the poll results
72 Total Votes  
post #1 of 30
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The 2006 HD-DVD - Blue-Ray controversy has generated an extremely active thread and now the one for 2007 has surfaced. Yet, it seems to me from reading through the posts, that most people who express such strong opinions don't even own one of the machines. So, I'm wondering how many people in 2007 are actually going to put their money where their mouth is so to speak.

As for me, now that I've rejoined Netflix, if there is a winner in 2007 I'll most likely buy a player in that format even though upconverted DVDs look pretty darn good
post #2 of 30
To be honest this format war is not going to be decided by coherent technical discussion but rather by whichever groups best sells their technology to laypersons. That, or hybrid drives will become the norm.
post #3 of 30
I need an HD TV first. So regular DVD is perfectly fine.
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post #4 of 30
I answered "Who cares, I just want to see the poll results" because I currently have no HD disc system, and I'm not really sure what I'm going to do about that.

I am beginning to get the itch to get something. I'd sure like to see a clear winner in the format war before taking the plunge, but it's possible I'll break down sooner than that. At this point, player prices and number of titles would have me leaning toward HD-DVD. Since I don't have any interest in gaming consoles, neither Xbox nor PS3 sway me either way.

I just ordered two new reasonably priced HDMI cables (about $25 each, as opposed to the $200 each BS a place like Best Buy would love to sell me) so I'll be ready for the inevitable purchase -- I could break down in as little as a month and it's hard to imagine I'll hold out as long as a year before I get something. I only use HDMI for one component now (my DirecTV HD-DVR) and that's hooked directly from the DVR into my TV, as my current receiver can only switch analog video.

I'll probably get myself a new HDMI-capable receiver soon, even before I've decided on an HD format. I could always punt in the short term and get a new standard DVD player with HDMI output.

I know a lot of people here are big Blu-ray proponents, but I'd be perfectly happy to see HD-DVD win out as the new movie format, leaving Blu-ray for high capacity data storage, and using universal drives on our computers for reading and writing both formats. Since HD-DVD's data capacity is more than adequate for high-def movies, and HD-DVDs are less vulnerable to dust and scratches (that expensive coating Blu-ray needs to make it more durable doesn't fix dust problems, only alleviates the scratching problem a bit), when you add on the ease of updating DVD pressing plants to handle HD-DVD, that makes HD-DVD the one I'm leaning toward as the desired winner of the format wars and the main movie format.
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post #5 of 30
There are, and were too many DVD threads the second soneone put up the first 2007 thread.
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post #6 of 30
I got the PS3 here, but have yet to get a HDTV. May be I'm hard to please, I'm eyeing for the 1080p model.
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I got the PS3 here, but have yet to get a HDTV. May be I'm hard to please, I'm eyeing for the 1080p model.

What's the PS3 like?
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To be honest this format war is not going to be decided by coherent technical discussion but rather by whichever groups best sells their technology to laypersons. That, or hybrid drives will become the norm.

There will be no hybrid drives. Right there you are dealing with two sets of royalties. Ack.
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There will be no hybrid drives. Right there you are dealing with two sets of royalties. Ack.

Royalities to the Blu-ray and HD-DVD groups? But isn't that the same as must have previously occured with the -R/RW and +R/RW groups.
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Royalities to the Blu-ray and HD-DVD groups? But isn't that the same as must have previously occured with the -R/RW and +R/RW groups.

Not really, because these were both adopted as a standard.
post #11 of 30
Double royalties will have to be paid but it'll be transparent to the consumer as by the time Universal players hit the component costs will be lower than what we have today.

NEC and Broadcom have LSI that allow them to sell the same chip into HD DVD or Blu-ray or Universal product. This is the benefit of "economies of scale" now they can reduce the price and manf in volume.

We just need the optics to catch up now and Ricoh is working on a dual format optical drive. Sony has to be a bit worried about this. They are subsidizing BD50 production for 5 yrs (I'm told) stating that they will guarantee that BD50 doesn't cost more to large studios than HD30. What happens if the battle is protracted and last 5 yrs because of Universal players? Sony could see the studios take advantage of the subsidy and then switch to cheaper HD DVD production in 5 yrs. Who knows.
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post #12 of 30
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What's the PS3 like?

The PS3 is alright.. I'm still in the newbie mode.
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The PS3 is alright.. I'm still in the newbie mode.


What's the frequency
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post #14 of 30
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Originally Posted by OldCodger73 View Post

The 2006 HD-DVD - Blue-Ray controversy has generated an extremely active thread and now the one for 2007 has surfaced. Yet, it seems to me from reading through the posts, that most people who express such strong opinions don't even own one of the machines. So, I'm wondering how many people in 2007 are actually going to put their money where their mouth is so to speak.

As for me, now that I've rejoined Netflix, if there is a winner in 2007 I'll most likely buy a player in that format even though upconverted DVDs look pretty darn good


Having PS3 doesn't automatically make that owner a HiDef Movie enthusiast. It needs to be clearer on the PS3/BR option. Not all PS3 owners would use it as a BD movie player. It's a gaming console afterall, and most purchases of PS3 is solely for gaming.
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post #15 of 30
The thing that still baffles me is---you could buy a PS3 for around $700, but a Blu-Ray disc player will set you back nearly $1,000. Something don't add up here.

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post #16 of 30
I've already got a Playstation 3 so I'm all for Blu-ray to win the format war. And the second Apple puts out a Blu-ray-equiped computer I'm on board!
post #17 of 30
...I will be purchasing a PS3 primarily for movies. Will likely be interested in Madden, NHL, and GTA titles, but I doubt I play video games more then once every couple months.
post #18 of 30
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The thing that still baffles me is---you could buy a PS3 for around $700, but a Blu-Ray disc player will set you back nearly $1,000. Something don't add up here.

The PS3 sells for below cost right now. It's an excellent deal
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Having PS3 doesn't automatically make that owner a HiDef Movie enthusiast. It needs to be clearer on the PS3/BR option. Not all PS3 owners would use it as a BD movie player. It's a gaming console afterall, and most purchases of PS3 is solely for gaming.

The title of this thread clearly states HD-DVD and/or Blue-Ray buying plans, which I ASSUMED most people would take to mean for movie viewing not gaming. PS3 was included because it is the least expensive B-R player and gets great reviews on AVSforum as a player.

The people who post on AVSforum are, for the most part, knowledgeable video enthusiasts, while the people here on Appleinsider probably represent a more typical range of video viewers. There's been enough hot air in the two HD format threads to inflate several hot air balloons. What I'm trying to do with this thread is cut through all that and see what AI members are voting for with their money.
post #20 of 30
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What's the frequency

hmm... 480i

BTW.. I noticed that regular DVD playback was awesome on the PS3 compared to the Xbox 360, better control. However, I much prefer the Xbox 360 controller. Anyway, I have the player and software (from NetFlix), but not the hardware (HDTV).
post #21 of 30
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I'm kicking this back to the top to see if any of the regulars have bought one of the formats lately.

I'm still remaining format neutral until things sort themselves out.
post #22 of 30
I recently bought a 37" Dell LCD TV and the few Blu-ray movies I have are brilliant on it! It's also easier to find selections of Blu-ray movies in my city compared to HD-DVD. Unfortunately, neither format has any movies that I want that I don't already own on DVD, so for the time being I'm mostly re-buying movies. In fact, no movie I really want will be on Blu-ray until June. Oh well, things are no better on the HD-DVD side.

A friend of mine bought the $200 HD-DVD add-on for his XBOX 360 and he isn't too happy with it. He doesn't like the sloppiness of having a separate drive for HD movies and is ticked that no HD-DVD games will be released. He is considering dumping the XBOX and getting a PS3 instead.

Like I said earlier in the topic, the second Apple has a Blu-ray MacBook Pro I'm buying it. I have a feeling that the iMacs and Mac Pros will see Blu-ray long before the portables though.
post #23 of 30
I voted for not buying in 2007, BUT, LG and at least one other manufacturer have already announced a player that will read both formats. It's just a player though. So, really, who cares who wins?

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post #24 of 30
I am anti-HD-DVD because I'm anti-Microsoft :-)
post #25 of 30
I think this poll should be reset. With the new direction that Blu-Ray has taken in Price, availability, and the considerable lead they have taken I think this poll could be looking a bit different now.
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I am anti-HD-DVD because I'm anti-Microsoft :-)

HD DVD isn't Microsoft. They make an Xbox HD DVD add on and they develop VC-1 but other than their support of HD DVD they haven't invested much more than they have in Blu-ray.
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A friend of mine bought the $200 HD-DVD add-on for his XBOX 360 and he isn't too happy with it. He doesn't like the sloppiness of having a separate drive for HD movies and is ticked that no HD-DVD games will be released. He is considering dumping the XBOX and getting a PS3 instead.
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Your friend is employing and idiots logic. What exactly does he think games on HD DVD would do? They won't look or sound or play better. So he's now considering dumping the best gaming console for a PS3 which has fewer games and a cobbled together online system. When are you going to smack some sense into this guy? The PS3 is not ready to match the Xbox 360 in many areas.
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Your friend is employing and idiots logic. What exactly does he think games on HD DVD would do? They won't look or sound or play better.

Unless, of course, they took advantage of the extra space for larger, more varied textures; or higher quality, surround sound. In which case they'd look and sound better.

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So he's now considering dumping the best gaming console for a PS3 which has fewer games and a cobbled together online system. When are you going to smack some sense into this guy? The PS3 is not ready to match the Xbox 360 in many areas.

My Intellivision also has more games than the PS3. Are you implying that that makes it a superior system? Also, I'm really sure that his friend is going to be really upset about not being able to post his game scores online.

Anyway, who was employing idiot's logic here?
post #29 of 30
Well considering the XBOX has a one year jump on the PS3 I'm not making any judgments. Sony could really build up the online abilities and people already know of the great games in the pipeline.

As for the 360 and HD-DVD, he assumed that the HD-DVD add on would eventually mean Microsoft could develop HD-DVD games which could make use of the extra storage.

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Your friend is employing and idiots logic. What exactly does he think games on HD DVD would do? They won't look or sound or play better. So he's now considering dumping the best gaming console for a PS3 which has fewer games and a cobbled together online system. When are you going to smack some sense into this guy? The PS3 is not ready to match the Xbox 360 in many areas.
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Unless, of course, they took advantage of the extra space for larger, more varied textures; or higher quality, surround sound. In which case they'd look and sound better.


My Intellivision also has more games than the PS3. Are you implying that that makes it a superior system? Also, I'm really sure that his friend is going to be really upset about not being able to post his game scores online.

Anyway, who was employing idiot's logic here?

Certainly not me. Resistance of Man is the PS3 Raison D'etre. It's nice but one game isn't going to suffice for most gamers. With the Xbox 360 I have

Halo 2 and soon 3
Gears of War
Lost Planet

and upcoming you have Mass Efffect and Alan Wake in addition to updates to Forza and other racing games. The Xbox marketplace handles everything from new games to movie purchases in 720p HD and is far more slick than the PS3. Sony won't hit 4 million PS3 until Summer at best. By then they'll be behind the Xbox 360 by an odd 10 million units in the US.

The idea was that the Cell processor was going to deliver games beyond reproach and frankly if you compare Call of Duty on both platforms the Xbox version probably looks and plays better. I'm not saying that the PS3 won't show it's power advantage in the future but clearly it is a more difficult console to develop for.

I don't have an affinity for Microsoft despite being a Washingtonian and having friends that work there. I have to admit ...Microsoft is leveraging their skills much better. It sucks to have a external box for clutter but that same drive can hook up to a HTPC or computer with PowerDVD and playback movies there as well. It's far more flexible

I'd recommend this guy keep his Xbox 360 and wait for a kickass deal for a PS3. There he has excellent game support and access to all HD movies. I'm not calling the guy and idiot but questioning whether his logical reasoning here isn't a bit idiotic. I'm sure he could defend himself fine if he was here. He may not like any of the Xbox games coming. We don't know.
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