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post #41 of 73
4/3/07 at 5:26am
I think Aqua as we know it, is going. It is a long time in coming.

Something new is called for.

I think we look to the Leopard preview pages, Aperture and the pro apps for clues as to what is coming.

Vista is over stated.

Leopard may well be over the top in 3d, whizzy core animations...but in the apple classy 'under stated' way.

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I'm looking forward to Leopard.
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post #42 of 73
4/3/07 at 5:15pm
Yes. Aqua is old and tired and must go.

I like the iTunes look very much. They've done a lot of nice work on the drop shadows and shading, too.
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post #43 of 73
4/3/07 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

I hope you guys like the new non-aqua drop down menus?


...here's the old one:



And get a load of the top screenshot of the UI for this new app. Do I smell a ditching of Aqua in the wings?

Although this points to the fact that Apple is exploring new UIs, I don't think this is a surefire indication that this is THE new UI. Many different product types have different UIs.
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post #44 of 73
4/3/07 at 7:04pm
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Although this points to the fact that Apple is exploring new UIs, I don't think this is a surefire indication that this is THE new UI. Many different product types have different UIs.

Wanna bet money on it then? I bet you $50 that Leopard's drop downs will be exactly the same as this iPhone's (above)

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post #45 of 73
4/3/07 at 9:16pm
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Wanna bet money on it then? I bet you $50 that Leopard's drop downs will be exactly the same as this iPhone's (above)

Honestly, who cares? i want to know the other changes. :-D Like if the menu bar is black, white or grey...and ect...
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post #46 of 73
4/3/07 at 9:28pm
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Wanna bet money on it then? I bet you $50 that Leopard's drop downs will be exactly the same as this iPhone's (above)

I don't want to bet. But anyways, my point is supported by iTunes. iTunes has a different UI than the iPhone that has a different UI than Leopard...presumably...?
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post #47 of 73
4/3/07 at 10:34pm
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Honestly, who cares? i want to know the other changes. :-D Like if the menu bar is black, white or grey...and ect...

The color of the menubar wont change. I was talking about the color of the selections. Perhaps they will make a black option, instead of that strong blue. I strongly suspect all scrollbars that are blue now, will be the color of the vertical scrollbar in iTunes for Leopard, system-wide. Finder will be a world apart from what it is now, people have been giving Apple feedback on the sucky factor of Finder for about two years now since Tiger's release, and Leopard will have Core Animation etc. The OS will be resolution independent.

The real miracle dark horse would be that Leopard is fully ZFS., that would be awesome. There's a lot of possibilities, but we wont know the truth till June.

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post #48 of 73
4/4/07 at 9:37am
http://phillryu.com/leopard.php?person=eric

I personally like that and those ideas for mac OS X leopard.

http://phillryu.com/2006/07/26/fake-...he-real-thing/


And there you can find more mock-ups.

:-D
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post #49 of 73
4/4/07 at 11:07am
Can anyone say Color Picker?:



Black, white, green, blue, orange it shouldn't matter. Let people use what they want IMO.
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post #50 of 73
4/4/07 at 11:10am
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Can anyone say Color Picker?:

Nobody's is stopping you from installing Shapeshifter.

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post #51 of 73
4/4/07 at 11:16am
I think the iPhone UI, iTunes 7, and the Unified UI all offer clues w/r/t Leopard.

In terms of the new theme, I think we'll see the complete end of pinstripes, a lot more silverish gray-blue, and more minimal UI elements (Safari-style) all around. I don't think the UI elements themselves will be black (though it will likely introduce the semi-transparent dark palette, as seen in iLife apps and Aperture, as a standard UI element). But I do think there will be something going on with much more dynamic light + shadow effects (instead of the current fixed drop shadow) being used to differentiate window edges and indicate window focus.

That's just the look. I also hope for some serious UI enhancements as well.
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post #52 of 73
4/4/07 at 3:23pm
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Can anyone say Color Picker?:



Black, white, green, blue, orange it shouldn't matter. Let people use what they want IMO.

Sure.



Too bad we don't get to scale window views from either bottom left or bottom right.
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post #53 of 73
4/4/07 at 3:25pm
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I think the iPhone UI, iTunes 7, and the Unified UI all offer clues w/r/t Leopard.

In terms of the new theme, I think we'll see the complete end of pinstripes, a lot more silverish gray-blue, and more minimal UI elements (Safari-style) all around. I don't think the UI elements themselves will be black (though it will likely introduce the semi-transparent dark palette, as seen in iLife apps and Aperture, as a standard UI element). But I do think there will be something going on with much more dynamic light + shadow effects (instead of the current fixed drop shadow) being used to differentiate window edges and indicate window focus.

That's just the look. I also hope for some serious UI enhancements as well.

Note: This isn't directed to you, but to everyone who uses such short hand.

What benefit does one get writing in a style of short-hand [w/r/t] when one ends up writing a long commentary following it?

What's wrong with, `with respect to'?
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post #54 of 73
4/4/07 at 8:19pm
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Nobody's is stopping you from installing Shapeshifter.

Actually, that can really screw up your computer. And if someone only wants a color change for the menu bar, then that should be built into Apple OS X. At least, I think so.
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post #55 of 73
4/5/07 at 9:34am
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And get a load of the top screenshot of the UI for this new app. Do I smell a ditching of Aqua in the wings?

i could live with that, kind of, it would have to be 'shinier' though..
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post #56 of 73
4/5/07 at 11:15am
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Note: This isn't directed to you, but to everyone who uses such short hand.

What benefit does one get writing in a style of short-hand [w/r/t] when one ends up writing a long commentary following it?

What's wrong with, `with respect to'?

FYI - IIRC, and AFAICT, the practice is commonplace. ROTFLOL!

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post #57 of 73
4/5/07 at 11:41am
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FYI - IIRC, and AFAICT, the practice is commonplace. ROTFLOL!

BTW... FTFF!


IA IMHO or SIS IMHNSOH.

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post #58 of 73
4/7/07 at 6:05am
you had me at lol
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post #59 of 73
4/7/07 at 11:01am
I am AMAZED that nobody has said this yet:

"Once you go black..."
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post #60 of 73
4/7/07 at 11:54pm
darker greys, darker blues, a little black, more horizontal gloss effects and much less (if any) candy bar effect, i think
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post #61 of 73
4/8/07 at 2:53pm
Personally, I like the black idea. Take a look at a screen shot of my desktop.

For those that care. I use MenuShade to auto-hide or dim the menu bar.

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post #62 of 73
4/8/07 at 4:02pm
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Personally, I like the black idea. Take a look at a screen shot of my desktop.

For those that care. I use MenuShade to auto-hide or dim the menu bar.


EMO!

jk.

I just stick with the Tiger Aqua desktop.
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post #63 of 73
4/8/07 at 4:55pm
Also, remember the rumored name, "Illumines" (SP?), which I believe hinted at such things when you do search, they will become "illuminated "...which could also refer to a darker, possibly black, UI. But Do I think it ALL will be black? By heavens no! Apple should know that Black is a horrible color to base it's entire OS on.
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post #64 of 73
4/8/07 at 6:49pm
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Personally, I like the black idea. Take a look at a screen shot of my desktop.

For those that care. I use MenuShade to auto-hide or dim the menu bar.


your dock makes me want to stab myself. especially with QS in your dock and *not running.*
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post #65 of 73
4/8/07 at 7:54pm
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your dock makes me want to stab myself. especially with QS in your dock and *not running.*

You need help, you would stab yourself over that.

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post #66 of 73
4/9/07 at 10:06am
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You need help, you would stab yourself over that.

i'm not going to. it just makes me *want* to. subtle difference...
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post #67 of 73
4/9/07 at 2:00pm
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i'm not going to. it just makes me *want* to. subtle difference...

First it is running. I was having some permissions issues when I snapped that shot and was deleting out the application support folder and making a new one. Second, it doesn't stay in my dock. I have it run automagically on log in and run in the menu bar.

So drop that knife, like fast, because it is all good here in black mac land. Funny enough, I hate the black physical colored Macs themeselves. White looks so good. But black is easier on my eyes and it really freeks people out when I hide my dock, like 90% of the time at work minus photoshop work.
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post #68 of 73
4/10/07 at 4:04pm
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First it is running. I was having some permissions issues when I snapped that shot and was deleting out the application support folder and making a new one. Second, it doesn't stay in my dock. I have it run automagically on log in and run in the menu bar.

So drop that knife, like fast, because it is all good here in black mac land. Funny enough, I hate the black physical colored Macs themeselves. White looks so good. But black is easier on my eyes and it really freeks people out when I hide my dock, like 90% of the time at work minus photoshop work.

phew
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post #69 of 73
4/10/07 at 4:42pm
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phew

No blood then.

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post #70 of 73
4/10/07 at 8:53pm
To everyone who would add all sorts of UI-customizing options to OS X: do you not remember Hot Dog Stand? Do you not?

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000341.html

People don't know what they want. You have to throw the Mac's elegance at them until they get it.
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post #71 of 73
4/11/07 at 4:15am
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Originally Posted by Macintosh_Next View Post

Actually, that can really screw up your computer. And if someone only wants a color change for the menu bar, then that should be built into Apple OS X. At least, I think so.

How can ShapeShifter really screw up one's computer? I've had it since 10.4.5 and have gone through every update flawlessly. Sure, an update will cause you to have to re-apply the shapeshifter theme but that's never caused me to be upset. I use almost every one of Unsanity's products and love them including MightyMouse, LabelsX and WindowShade.
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post #72 of 73
4/11/07 at 6:31am
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How can ShapeShifter really screw up one's computer?

It's been know to slow down the computer and cause instability. If the latest version works well then that's great but it should still be built into the system. Apple's motto is Thnk Different but there's no better way to stifle creativity than have everyone use the same desktop theme for nearly a decade (I know it's not quite a decade but I think the statement has more effect that way).
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post #73 of 73
4/11/07 at 10:09pm
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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post

It's been know to slow down the computer and cause instability. If the latest version works well then that's great but it should still be built into the system. Apple's motto is Thnk Different but there's no better way to stifle creativity than have everyone use the same desktop theme for nearly a decade (I know it's not quite a decade but I think the statement has more effect that way).

Exactly.

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