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post #81 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

Here's my labeling:

iMac---keep it but start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Book---keep it but start them at $399 w/ Celeron Processors
Mac Book Pro----call them PowerBooks again and start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Mini---keep it but start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Mac Pro-----call them G5 start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Airport Extreme----iport
Superdrive----DVD-RW
Final Cut Pro 5-----Final Cut

Furthermore:

sell motherboards at Frys, New Egg, Tiger Direct, Comp USA, etc starting as low as $69

open all game software up to the Mac platform, no licensing necessary

open up all mfgrs to Mac-compatible, no licensing necessary, so we can buy a DVD writer
without checking to see " if it works on a Mac"

open up Leopard FREE to all OSX users

Clearly you don't think Apple should actually profit from their Hardware or Software. You have just lost all credibility. I must extend my Congratulations.

Sebastian

EDIT: I had grab something real quick

Now where was I, oh yeah

Celeron is not a processor. What you call the Celeron is the actually the Pentium M, I don't know if they updated it to mean the Core Duo. Blame Intel's crazy confusing Marketing.

The Pentium D is outdated, as is the entire Pentium Lineup and is being phased out. You also turned a Professional Workstation into a Worthless Piece of S*** above. G5 btw, referred to the PPC G5 in it. So you believe Apple would profit by selling outdated hardware under misleading names at Prices even Wal Mart wouldn't touch.

Again, you lost all credibility.

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post #82 of 156
As much as I would like those prices it would bankrupt Apple. As for names maybe you should review some of the Mac's history. Apple is about simplicity, this also goes for their naming of their products. Your names don't make sense.
post #83 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

Here's my labeling:

iMac---keep it but start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Book---keep it but start them at $399 w/ Celeron Processors
Mac Book Pro----call them PowerBooks again and start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Mini---keep it but start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Mac Pro-----call them G5 start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Airport Extreme----iport
Superdrive----DVD-RW
Final Cut Pro 5-----Final Cut

Furthermore:

sell motherboards at Frys, New Egg, Tiger Direct, Comp USA, etc starting as low as $69

open all game software up to the Mac platform, no licensing necessary

open up all mfgrs to Mac-compatible, no licensing necessary, so we can buy a DVD writer
without checking to see " if it works on a Mac"

open up Leopard FREE to all OSX users

So you want all models to be loss leaders?
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post #84 of 156
As much as I would like those prices it would bankrupt Apple. As for names maybe you should review some of the Mac's history. Apple is about simplicity, this also goes for their naming of their products. Your names don't make sense.

never heard of a G5? or Powerbook?

why should you care about the health of a multi-million dollar company? I have owned Macs since 1985
when did you first purchase a Mac?
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post #85 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

As much as I would like those prices it would bankrupt Apple. As for names maybe you should review some of the Mac's history. Apple is about simplicity, this also goes for their naming of their products. Your names don't make sense.

never heard of a G5? or Powerbook?

why should you care about the health of a multi-million dollar company? I have owned Macs since 1985
when did you first purchase a Mac?

I find that hard to believe, because you clearly have no understanding of what Apple really is.

First off, they are a multi-billion dollar company, as in their revenue is counted in Billions last I checked.

Second, if Apple goes bankrupt, that means the death of the iPod and all Macs.

Sebastian
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post #86 of 156
find that hard to believe, because you clearly have no understanding of what Apple really is.

First off, they are a multi-billion dollar company, as in their revenue is counted in Billions last I checked.

Second, if Apple goes bankrupt, that means the death of the iPod and all Macs.

Sebastian
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I stand corrected...why should you care about a billion dollar corporation, do they care about you?
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post #87 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

find that hard to believe, because you clearly have no understanding of what Apple really is.

First off, they are a multi-billion dollar company, as in their revenue is counted in Billions last I checked.

Second, if Apple goes bankrupt, that means the death of the iPod and all Macs.

Sebastian
__________________



I stand corrected...why should you care about a billion dollar corporation, do they care about you?

Technically no. However, I do care about Apple because without the Mac my alternatives would be HP, Dell, or some other PC Manufacturer. I could always try Linux, except the Ecosystem around Linux is screwed.

Sebastian
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post #88 of 156
Oh, boy, too easy. 8)

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Originally Posted by fatcatdj

Here's my labeling:
iMac---keep it but start them at $599 w/ Intel D

Pentium D? Are you kidding me? Pentium 4/Ds are shithouse old technology. It's rubbish. It can barely run Vista the latest and greatest. What's the point of selling Macs with Pentium4/Ds if the user experience is terrible (because of crap CPU speed)??? And it will be thoroughly worthless in 1.5 years?

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Originally Posted by fatcatdj

Mac Book---keep it but start them at $399 w/ Celeron Processors

Celeron. Whoa. Even worse than above.

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Originally Posted by fatcatdj

Mac Book Pro----call them PowerBooks again and start them at $599 w/ Intel D

By your own reasoning, PowerBook is a stupid name... like "It's just a stupid laptop, all of them use power. POWERBook. So silly - like a paper book but with a plug in it. Pfft.". Intel D? Are you high? How many laptops do you see have Pentium Ds in them?

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Originally Posted by fatcatdj

Mac Mini---keep it but start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Mac Pro-----call them G5 start them at $299 w/ Intel D

Maybe you're saying "Intel Core Duo or Core 2 Duo" instead of Pentium D. Why would the Mac Pro be called G5? That's even more senseless -- "G5? G what? Ali G? G-Man? G-funk? What does the 5 stand for?"

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Originally Posted by fatcatdj

Airport Extreme----iport

Too late, someone got it already. http://www.iportmusic.com/

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Originally Posted by fatcatdj

Superdrive----DVD-RW

But it's Dual Layer. And some are 2.4x DL 8x DVD-R+R etc etc. Might as well call the iMac a "CoreDuo Box", which makes even less sense.

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Originally Posted by fatcatdj

Final Cut Pro 5-----Final Cut

Mmmm... Lawsuits... Just look at how many movies and other stuff use "Final Cut"
http://imdb.com/find?s=all&q=final+cut ...I think you need the Pro or Express for trademark/naming purposes.

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Originally Posted by fatcatdj

open up Leopard FREE to all OSX users

Why don't you keep buying and then give away all your food to your neighbours and you eat celery for the next few years?
post #89 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

find that hard to believe, because you clearly have no understanding of what Apple really is.

First off, they are a multi-billion dollar company, as in their revenue is counted in Billions last I checked.

Second, if Apple goes bankrupt, that means the death of the iPod and all Macs.

Sebastian
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I stand corrected...why should you care about a billion dollar corporation, do they care about you?

I'm sorry, but your arguments are really idiotic. If everybody had that mentality, no business would get done and the economy would be a wreck. Business, the general sense of the word, is simply a matter, a circumstance, a situation defined by a transaction of sorts (again, not related to money in the general sense of the word).

Would you trade your new car for someone else's old bike? No.
Would you work in a job where you had to pay your employer to work? No.
Would you give out hundred dollar bills to every who wanted one? No.

You have to realize that the reason why these companies have so much money ("multi-million [or billion] dollars") is because they make transactions with people that are favorable to both people. As a customer, buying a computer is favorable because I need one and I have money. As a company, selling a computer is favorable because they have computers and they want money.

Rarely do people make transactions that are unfavorable to them. Even when donating to charity, the person who donates is getting something. It's not tangible but it is very real. For starters, personal satisfaction of helping others. This doesn't even consider the effect it has on society and therefore the person who donates by doing socially conscious things, which in the case of donations, at face value, appear to be a loss (of time, money, resources, etc).
post #90 of 156
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Originally Posted by sunilraman View Post

Oh, boy, too easy. 8)



Pentium D? Are you kidding me? Pentium 4/Ds are shithouse old technology. It's rubbish. It can barely run Vista the latest and greatest. What's the point of selling Macs with Pentium4/Ds if the user experience is terrible (because of crap CPU speed)??? And it will be thoroughly worthless in 1.5 years?



Celeron. Whoa. Even worse than above.



By your own reasoning, PowerBook is a stupid name... like "It's just a stupid laptop, all of them use power. POWERBook. So silly - like a paper book but with a plug in it. Pfft.". Intel D? Are you high? How many laptops do you see have Pentium Ds in them?



Maybe you're saying "Intel Core Duo or Core 2 Duo" instead of Pentium D. Why would the Mac Pro be called G5? That's even more senseless -- "G5? G what? Ali G? G-Man? G-funk? What does the 5 stand for?"



Too late, someone got it already. http://www.iportmusic.com/



But it's Dual Layer. And some are 2.4x DL 8x DVD-R+R etc etc. Might as well call the iMac a "CoreDuo Box", which makes even less sense.



Mmmm... Lawsuits... Just look at how many movies and other stuff use "Final Cut"
http://imdb.com/find?s=all&q=final+cut ...I think you need the Pro or Express for trademark/naming purposes.



Why don't you keep buying and then give away all your food to your neighbours and you eat celery for the next few years?





hey just trying to sell to the masses. You have a mortgage and kids that wanna go to college? As for the G thing----I have a G4 tower (when they called it that waaay back in 2003)
As for FCP 5---its crap, I am an Avid user, though I am skilled in FCP. Its a child's toy.
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post #91 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post




hey just trying to sell to the masses. You have a mortgage and kids that wanna go to college? As for the G thing----I have a G4 tower (when they called it that waaay back in 2003)
As for FCP 5---its crap, I am an Avid user, though I am skilled in FCP. Its a child's toy.

Guess what kind of Processor is in your G4 Tower... wait for it... a G4. Which is exactly why it wouldn't apply to a Mac Pro with Intel CPUs, whether it be a Xeon or a "D" (haha, I still can't believe you are trying to push outdated Hardware)

Cutting prices to so much of an extreme that you make no profit makes absolutely no sense no matter how many units you sell because of it. You can sell as many units as you can make, but if you are losing Money doing that it makes absolutely no sense to do so.

Sebastian
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post #92 of 156
Grats on finding the Random Essay Generator.
post #93 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

Here's my labeling:

iMac---keep it but start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Book---keep it but start them at $399 w/ Celeron Processors
Mac Book Pro----call them PowerBooks again and start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Mini---keep it but start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Mac Pro-----call them G5 start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Airport Extreme----iport
Superdrive----DVD-RW
Final Cut Pro 5-----Final Cut

Furthermore:

sell motherboards at Frys, New Egg, Tiger Direct, Comp USA, etc starting as low as $69

open all game software up to the Mac platform, no licensing necessary

open up all mfgrs to Mac-compatible, no licensing necessary, so we can buy a DVD writer
without checking to see " if it works on a Mac"

open up Leopard FREE to all OSX users

Also, open source the access codes to Apple's bank accounts and have all executives, designers, and engineers commit seppuku.
post #94 of 156
post #95 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

Here's my labeling:

iMac---keep it but start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Book---keep it but start them at $399 w/ Celeron Processors
Mac Book Pro----call them PowerBooks again and start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Mini---keep it but start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Mac Pro-----call them G5 start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Airport Extreme----iport
Superdrive----DVD-RW
Final Cut Pro 5-----Final Cut

Furthermore:

sell motherboards at Frys, New Egg, Tiger Direct, Comp USA, etc starting as low as $69

open all game software up to the Mac platform, no licensing necessary

open up all mfgrs to Mac-compatible, no licensing necessary, so we can buy a DVD writer
without checking to see " if it works on a Mac"

open up Leopard FREE to all OSX users

No offense or anything, but you are a complete idiot. I see others have refuted your "ideas" quite eloquently, but I feel compelled to do the job myself anyway.
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

Here's my labeling:

iMac---keep it but start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Book---keep it but start them at $399 w/ Celeron Processors
Mac Book Pro----call them PowerBooks again and start them at $599 w/ Intel D
Mac Mini---keep it but start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Mac Pro-----call them G5 start them at $299 w/ Intel D
Airport Extreme----iport
Superdrive----DVD-RW
Final Cut Pro 5-----Final Cut

As for the first part of your post, Apple should NOT build totally underpowered machines. They would run horribly and give all their other products a bad name. OS X is graphically demanding and is not gonna run on a $299 machine.

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Mac Pro-----call them G5 start them at $299 w/ Intel D

WTF? Why call it a G5 if it doesn't have a G5 processor? And are you saying they should have their HIGHEST END MACHINE be priced at $299?

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open all game software up to the Mac platform, no licensing necessary

How? No one wants to develop games for the Mac, what is Apple supposed to do about that?

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open up Leopard FREE to all OSX users

Even better, they should just give away FREE COMPUTERS to anyone who wants one.
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post #96 of 156
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No offense or anything, but you are a complete idiot. I see others have refuted your "ideas" quite eloquently, but I feel compelled to do the job myself anyway.


As for the first part of your post, Apple should NOT build totally underpowered machines. They would run horribly and give all their other products a bad name. OS X is graphically demanding and is not gonna run on a $299 machine.


WTF? Why call it a G5 if it doesn't have a G5 processor? And are you saying they should have their HIGHEST END MACHINE be priced at $299?



How? No one wants to develop games for the Mac, what is Apple supposed to do about that?



Even better, they should just give away FREE COMPUTERS to anyone who wants one.

obviously, you have no family, children, mortgage or impending debts as most people have who have commented negatively. I see the Mac as an everyday man's machine and quite frankly, only snobs who are only interested in high performance and exclusiveness want to hold back the Mac's appeal to the masses.
It reminds me of Scientology, as this group enjoys the lectures of life from L Ron Hubbard yet only appeals to the few who can afford to join, and those who are a part of it rave about the doctrine.
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post #97 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

obviously, you have no family, children, mortgage or impending debts as most people have who have commented negatively. I see the Mac as an everyday man's machine and quite frankly, only snobs who are only interested in high performance and exclusiveness want to hold back the Mac's appeal to the masses.
It reminds me of Scientology, as this group enjoys the lectures of life from L Ron Hubbard yet only appeals to the few who can afford to join, and those who are a part of it rave about the doctrine.

Nice one. Scientology is a good example.
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post #98 of 156
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I see the Mac as an everyday man's machine and quite frankly, only snobs who are only interested in high performance and exclusiveness want to hold back the Mac's appeal to the masses.

But they WON'T appeal to the masses if they make awful computers. A Mac for $299 with a Pentium D is going to be terrible, no one will buy it. Even if you are on a budget, you don't want a machine that hardly even RUNS.

I agree with you about Macs being overpriced, and I think that Apple definitely needs to take steps toward cutting the prices on Macs. But you have put no thought whatsoever into HOW they should go about this, you merely tell them to do things that either can't be done or make no sense.
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post #99 of 156
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Originally Posted by turnwrite View Post

But they WON'T appeal to the masses if they make awful computers. A Mac for $299 with a Pentium D is going to be terrible, no one will buy it. Even if you are on a budget, you don't want a machine that hardly even RUNS.

I agree with you about Macs being overpriced, and I think that Apple definitely needs to take steps toward cutting the prices on Macs. But you have put no thought whatsoever into HOW they should go about this, you merely tell them to do things that either can't be done or make no sense.


I'm saying is to START them out at the proposed processors, all the way up to the Core 2. Like the
Honda Civic barebones model with roll-up windows offering up to the $39,000 Si Model. The slower $17,000
coupe is like having a Mac run on the lower end processors.
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post #100 of 156
Meh, I suppose that would provide more options to choose from, but it seems like having such terrible machines would just bring a bad name to the other, better Macs. Do you know how terrible the Pentium D is? It would NOT run OS X at a usable speed. And how much RAM do you plan on offering for $299?
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post #101 of 156
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Meh, I suppose that would provide more options to choose from, but it seems like having such terrible machines would just bring a bad name to the other, better Macs. Do you know how terrible the Pentium D is? It would NOT run OS X at a usable speed. And how much RAM do you plan on offering for $299?

You may have a point, however, a friend of mine is running OSX 10.4 on a G4 700Mhz and it runs fine and another friend is running OSX 10.3 on a 450Hhz G4, so it may work..........
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post #102 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

obviously, you have no family, children, mortgage or impending debts as most people have who have commented negatively. I see the Mac as an everyday man's machine and quite frankly, only snobs who are only interested in high performance and exclusiveness want to hold back the Mac's appeal to the masses.
It reminds me of Scientology, as this group enjoys the lectures of life from L Ron Hubbard yet only appeals to the few who can afford to join, and those who are a part of it rave about the doctrine.

That is an incredibly stupid assumption...

Can you not abstract this discussion outside of your own existence?
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post #103 of 156
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You may have a point, however, a friend of mine is running OSX 10.4 on a G4 700Mhz and it runs fine and another friend is running OSX 10.3 on a 450Hhz G4, so it may work..........

It'll run, and I suppose if you aren't picky it might be usable, but these are really old machines. For Apple to ship brand NEW computers running at these speds would cause people to make the general assumption that ALL Macs are this slow and clunky, even the ones that aren't.

I guess it doesn't really matter, it is just another option for those on a tight budget, but I just can't imagine anyone buying it. Being on a budget SO tight that you would settle for a machine with such poor performance seems kind of harsh.
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post #104 of 156
Well because putting it any other way does not work on you

Apple will not do it because it goes against their core business. The idea is not to take down Microsoft with Massive Price Undercuts and old, unsupported hardware, but to gradually gain marketshare against Microsoft OEMs.

Apple DOES NOT CARE if they are dominant in the market, they are putting much more focus into ensuring the iTunes platform will be dominant in it's market instead.

Whether or not I care about Apple going bankrupt or not, which I do, it doesn't matter. Apple cares about Apple not going bankrupt.

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post #105 of 156
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Originally Posted by @_@ Artman View Post


Artman, is that an illustration of technology transfer? Where does the photo come from?


WRT the long complaints: before using Speech, try using Summerize (Services menu). Here is an example of the result.

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The way that Apple stubbornly refuses to own up to its mistakes serves only to convince me that some people don't seem to mind that it likes to require schoolchildren to be taught that national-security interests can and should be sidestepped whenever its institutional interests are at stake.

...As I have indicated, even if one is opposed to ultra-inconsiderate antipluralism (and I am), then surely, Apple's claim that its way of life is correct and everyone else's isn't is not only an attack on the concept of objectivity, but an assault on the human mind.

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Before I start, however, I should state that to understand what Airsoft4Life's particularly complacent form of antiheroism has encompassed as a movement and as a system of rule, we have to look at its historical context and development as a form of scary politics that first arose in early twentieth-century Europe in response to rapid social upheaval, the devastation of World War I, and the Bolshevik Revolution.

...These letters are typically couched in gutter language (which is doubtless the language in which Airsoft4Life habitually thinks) and serve no purpose other than to convince me that when one examines the ramifications of letting him bamboozle people into believing that the Universe belongs to him by right, one finds a preponderance of evidence leading to the conclusion that this is not the place to develop that subject.

...Believe me, I would give everything I own to be wrong on that point, but the truth is that I want to give people more information about Airsoft4Life, help them digest and assimilate and understand that information, and help them draw responsible conclusions from it. Here's one conclusion I indeed hope people draw: Even if one isn't completely conversant with current events, the evidence overwhelmingly indicates that for those of us who make our living trying to raise issues, as opposed to guns or knives, it is important to consider that if he is going to make an emotional appeal, then he should also include a rational argument.

...Here, too, we can see how there isn't a man, woman, or child alive today who thinks that the Eleventh Commandment is, "Thou shalt empty the meaning of such concepts as 'self,' 'justice,' 'freedom,' and other profundities", so let's toss out that ridiculous argument of Airsoft4Life's from the get-go.

...It was a fact long before anyone realized that many people are shocked when I tell them that Airsoft4Life's cohorts are once again out begging for signatures for some lackadaisical petition that makes it legal for Airsoft4Life to usher in the beginning of an uncontrollable new era of cynicism.

...Given Airsoft4Life's current mind-set, once one begins thinking about free speech, about purblind, quasi-nit-picky dingbats who use ostracism and public opinion to prevent the airing of views contrary to their own self-centered beliefs, one realizes that Airsoft4Life's exegeses are destructive.

...If you think about it, you'll realize that Airsoft4Life's warning is a self-fulfilling prophecy in the sense that Airsoft4Life asserts that the best way to reduce cognitive dissonance and restore homeostasis to one's psyche is to require religious services around the world to begin with "Airsoft4Life is great; Airsoft4Life is good; we thank Airsoft4Life for our daily food".

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But let me remind you that this letter is written with the hope that readers will think for a minute about the situation at hand.... I'd like nothing more than to extend my hand in friendship to Gregmightdothat's slaves and convey my hope that in the days to come we can work together to give our young people the values that will inspire them to think outside the box. Unfortunately, knowing them, they'd rather feed us a diet of robbery, murder, violence, and all other manner of trials and tribulations because that's what Gregmightdothat wants. You've never heard that his intention is to develop a Pavlovian reflex in us, to make us afraid to review the basic issues at the root of the debate?... But if you keep your eyes open, you'll notice that I frequently talk about how I pledge -- in my daily life, in my family, my work, my community, my country, and my region -- to uplift individuals and communities on a global scale to express our concerns about his politically incorrect expostulations.... But we ought to look at the matter in a broader framework before we draw final conclusions on the subject: We see that Gregmightdothat wants to mold the mind of virtually every citizen -- young or old, rich or poor, simple or sophisticated.

...Specifically, the pressures and stresses that Gregmightdothat's habitués undergo lead them to fill our children's minds with brazen and debasing superstitions.... Assuming the answer is "a substantial amount", let me point out that in a recent essay, Gregmightdothat stated that women are crazed Pavlovian sex-dogs who will salivate at any object even remotely phallic in shape.... Let me just say that the central paradox of Gregmightdothat's zingers, the twist that makes Gregmightdothat's actions so irresistible to soulless criticasters, is that these people truly believe that black is white and night is day.

...Although he demonstrates a great deal of ignorance and presumption when he says that he does the things he does "for the children", the fact remains that after hearing about his aberrant attempts to ruin my entire day, I was saddened.

...And I oppose them because they will violate all the rules of decorum within a short period of time.

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I plan to work within the system to persuade my fellow citizens that I, hardheaded cynic that I am, can't let Random Complaint Generator threaten, degrade, poison, bulldoze, and kill this world of ours, not because I lack the courage for more drastic steps, but because I have to wonder where it got the idea that it is my view that the moon is made of green cheese.... Here, I'm not just talking about evolution in a simply Darwinist sense; I'm also talking about how Random Complaint Generator might galvanize a neurotic hysteria, a large-scale version of the lackadaisical mentality that can cause one-sided flimflams to be entered into historical fact, sooner than you think.

...If you don't think that a lot of people may end up getting hurt before the final spasm of Random Complaint Generator's rage is played out, then you've missed the whole point of this letter.

...But if you read its writings while mentally in focus and weigh each point carefully, it's clear that if it thinks that it can make me drop to my knees and beg for mercy, then it's barking up the wrong tree.

...While Random Complaint Generator is undoubtedly entitled to ignore good advice from intelligent people, it claims to have turned over a new leaf shortly after getting caught trying to advocate its precepts amid a hue and cry as disaffected as it is bookish.... The truth is that I admit I have a tendency to become a bit insensitive whenever I rebuke Random Complaint Generator for trying to declare martial law, suspend elections, and round up dissidents (i.e., anyone who does not buy its lie that the ideas of "freedom" and "plagiarism" are Siamese twins).

...Yes, I could add that the common denominator of all of its screeds is that they seek to allow federally funded research to mushroom into a sick, grossly inefficient system, hampered by vile antagonists and combative trolls, but I wanted to keep my message simple and direct.
-- Denis.
-- Denis.
post #106 of 156
This takes me back to many years ago here at AI when the boards were saturated with "Why I hate macs, Why I hate PCs" threads.
post #107 of 156
Thanks ever so much.......
post #108 of 156
Does anyone else find it strange that one would actively participate on a fansite of a company which you do not even like? For me, I usually choose companies that I like (Apple being one of them).
~jvb
~jvb
post #109 of 156
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Does anyone else find it strange that one would actively participate on a fansite of a company which you do not even like? For me, I usually choose companies that I like (Apple being one of them).

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Why would you go onto an Apple forum and post an anti-Apple rant? No one is going to agree with you..
"How fortunate are you and I.."
"How fortunate are you and I.."
post #110 of 156
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Originally Posted by Airsoft4Life View Post

[...]

Thanks for the time. Buy Windows.

As if writing crappy generic letters would sell your peace of shit called "Vista" any better, Mr. Gates
(Can't be Ballmer: He doesn't know more than 25-50 words)
post #111 of 156
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Yeah, I was thinking that too. Why would you go onto an Apple forum and post an anti-Apple rant? No one is going to agree with you..

Exactly. I've never seen someone who posted on forums in which they have interest in. Sounds pretty stupid.
~jvb
~jvb
post #112 of 156
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Originally Posted by Markus1982 View Post

As if writing crappy generic letters would sell your peace of shit called "Vista" any better, Mr. Gates
(Can't be Ballmer: He doesn't know more than 25-50 words)

Some Random Numbers:
Vista will be on 85% of PCs by the end of the year
With Boot Camp, Microsoft's Potential User Base Grew by ~5%, about 1 Third of that would be able to install Vista right now, by the end of 2007, probably about 50% of that will be able to due to the Intel Chips, and Apple will probably gain about another 1-2% in the overall market. Microsoft has no need to sell it any better.

Oh, and the long rant he made was generated by a Random Complaint Generator. It must've been Ballmer

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post #113 of 156
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Originally Posted by icfireball View Post

This thread should be under temporary insanity.

How do we know this is not permanent insanity?
post #114 of 156
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hey just trying to sell to the masses. You have a mortgage and kids that wanna go to college? As for the G

I'm not unsympathetic, but I still think your expectations are unrealistic.

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As for FCP 5---its crap, I am an Avid user, though I am skilled in FCP. Its a child's toy.

There's a guy that I know that's kind of saying the opposite. He doesn't like Macs that much but prefers FCP to Avid, saying that Avid's way requires too much more work to do the same thing. He even suggested that Avid is designed that way to guarantee work for an editor. His job provides him an Avid system but he still takes it to his own FCP system to do the work.
post #115 of 156
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So you want all models to be loss leaders?

...and pieces of shite. Generally stuff that cheap isn't any good. I think the prices of Apple stuff is a tad high but the prices suggested basically imply that there is no additional value to Apple products, wanting to buy Apple stuff at ECS/FIC prices. Stuff made by the lowest bidder isn't always a good value.
post #116 of 156
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Originally Posted by Slewis View Post

Some Random Numbers:
Vista will be on 85% of PCs by the end of the year

How can you possibly arrive at that number? Do you mean that many percent of NEW PCs?
post #117 of 156
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Originally Posted by fatcatdj View Post

I'm saying is to START them out at the proposed processors, all the way up to the Core 2. Like the
Honda Civic barebones model with roll-up windows offering up to the $39,000 Si Model. The slower $17,000
coupe is like having a Mac run on the lower end processors.

To me, if you want to use the tired auto analogies, from your suggested pricing, it sounds like you are asking for a Honda at Kia prices.
post #118 of 156
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How can you possibly arrive at that number? Do you mean that many percent of NEW PCs?

It was a random Analyst number I saw thrown around on Informationweek so I ran with it.

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post #119 of 156
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haha, yes, I am aware. There is no bloody way anybody would be able to write that much bullshit without doing it for money. My second post was just becaues I felt like being an ass hole. My first post was because I felt that something good should come of this thread.

Bullshit. You fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

 

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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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post #120 of 156
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Originally Posted by Slewis View Post

Some Random Numbers:
Vista will be on 85% of PCs by the end of the year

Sorry, WRONG. Microsoft really wants to sell Vista as a retail box, because thats where they get the biggest margins. But who will really buy this pos called vista, an overpriced and very late service pack to XP? That implies that your 85% have to come mostly from sold pcs with preinstalled vista. Do you really think >80% of all computers will be replaced in 2007?
All windows-versions before proved the opposite.
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With Boot Camp, Microsoft's Potential User Base Grew by ~5%, about 1 Third of that would be able to install Vista right now, by the end of 2007, probably about 50% of that will be able to due to the Intel Chips, and Apple will probably gain about another 1-2% in the overall market.

Sorry, but as far as i can see, very few Macuser need Windows and install. A few more of the switchers need it temporarily. But I can't see how anyone would buy (BUY!) Vista to install in Bootcamp or Parallels. This will not bring much cash to ballmers hands. And the switchers who feel a little safer in buying a Mac, now that it does windows as well, will soon realize they don't need no more windows.
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Microsoft has no need to sell it any better.

They do desperately. The market is changing. Microsofts only way to get people to use Windows is by preinstalling it on every pc. Hardware vendors are more and more pissed to depend on a crappy outdated and slow system.
I think in the next 5-10 years most hardware companys like hp and dell will use linux-distros with their own window-manager and gui to give people a better experience and have more control like Apple does. I strongly belief Microsofts management is scared to death by this -- or they don't even see this yet coming.

I apologize for my bad english. I'm not a native speaker. But I know what I'm talking about, concerning computer history and the market.
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