Originally Posted by Bacillus
You just dont get it do you Ill hold off any attacks toward you.
You don't get it do you. Your ignorance and the very fact that it might even be associated with me is an attack of the worst kind.
Its about controlling the message every news report about Barak Hussein Osama use of cocaine is one less about his plan to reform healthcare or some other nonsense he is pushing. Ill freely admit it I think this is a great thing to throw him off message and to use a fodder to attack him. If the positions were reversed, the democrats would do the same exact thing.
What you have put forward is not about controlling the message. Good ideas control the message much more effectively than any of this nonsense you have put forward. If his plan for health care reform or some other nonsense is bad, then you hit it head on. You expose it for what it is and what it will do.
Republicans do promote self interest. They do not promote stupid and hateful interests. So you want to defeat socialized medicine. You say here is how many MRI machines Canada has per capita and here are how many the United States has per capita. You note how long the line is for hip replacements in Canada and how many YEARS you'll be waiting on the list. You note that the Canadian Supreme Court has ruled against the national health care system as depriving people of their basic rights.
You do that and the plan is defeated without any of the nonsense you have put forward here. What you have put forward here requires no thought and plenty of hate be it implicit or explicit. I do not want people who have that as a default state of being in my party. It isn't healthy for the future of the party nor will it build any sort of long term gains.
Also, as I have said - I think its the perfect nail in the wall for many to hang their hat on as an excuse not to vote for him. In polite company, we tend not to say what is on our minds; but many in this country have a problem voting for a man, such as Barak Hussein Obama, who has a strong link to Islam and to be frank about it, is black. However, the use of cocaine is the mental justification that many will need to not to vote for him. I promise you this will be a nagging issue for him and will lead to questions, and any answer given will lead to even more questions, and more and more. Politicians want to control the message and this will remove that control from Barak Hussein Obama and his handlers.
I have no problem voting for him at all. I'll examine his ideals and as the election approaches I'll compare them to the other candidates. If his are best by my criteria, he gets the vote. The criteria doesn't include being white, being perfect, or even being Christian. Many Democrats won seats this last cycle in part because of a return to economic populism and more specifically a fair trade stance. I've stated in the past and I'll state now that I would have had no problem voting for such candidates.
The most damning thing about your views is that those on the left become enabled to promote economic nationalism and populism and it is seen as a good thing. Someone like Pat Buchanan promotes it on the right and suddenly we are all racists while a Sherrod Brown isn't. Why is this so, because of folks like yourself.
Ill admit it Im an extreme right wing guy who will say what is on his mind. Likewise, there are extreme Democrats, whose views are equally or more unpalatable to the greater populous. Head on over to the Democratic Underground and see, news flash: both parties have them.
You make it sound like I would somehow excuse the hate-mongers at DU while only condemning yourself. Both should be condemned. When you have folks at DU saying antisemitic remarks because Joe Lieberman is winning, they should be condemned. When someone like you is spitting out hateful remarks you ought to be condemned.
The extremes in both cases are those who appeal to hate instead of to intellect. You seem to confuse extreme with something like enthusiasm and likely so do they. Enthusiasm should engage more brain cells, not be justification for turning them off. I hope you figure that out soon.