Apple stuns Macworld crowd with multi-function iPhone device - Page 6

My Cingular bill is about 100 bucks with 2 lines.

Cingular for me would charge $150 to cancel a contract.

Not sure what Cingular you deal with.

Wow.

This is what Apple initially wanted to Newton to be.

Remember, this was just a demo of a prototype. Not all features were shown.

I expect that Apple and 3rd party developers will create a LOT of widgets for the iPhone.

GPS
Handwriting / notetaking
Voice recording
Games
iChat functionality (AIM, Yahoo IM, etc)
Video conferencing (although, repositioning of the camera would be required)
Ability to connect to your computer for internet access through the phone
Office, or an Office clone (similar to Documents 2 Go on Palm)
Video recording

Can you get it inscribed when you order from the Apple Store?

I'm suprised they did not show the Calendar and To Do functions. This is the Killer-app on my Treo. I'd be lost without it.

Someone brought up lack of IR, so it cannot be used as a remote. At first I thought that was a pretty gay suggestion, but now I think if anyone could solve the problem of TOO MANY REMOTES, it's Apple.

Not sure why everyone is whining about screen smudges. I NEVER clean the screen of my Treo, and when it's ON it looks perfect. You only see the smudges when the screen is off. I'm also rought on it, and carry it in the same pocket with keys, etc, and the screen holds up remarkably well against scratches. I'm sure the iPhone will, too.

I doubt we'll see a hard-drive version. But the memory will eventually increase.

Why do so many people want 2 batteries?

I think the price is right. Costs less than my Treo 650 did when new.

The iPhone will change the world.

BTW: new iPods sporting the same design as the iPhone will appear soon.

The iPhone cannot change the world if it's priced at ~$1k unlocked, or if you have to join crappy Cingular service to own it.

Apple: +8.3%

Its competitors:

RIM: -7.7%
Nokia: -1.4%
Palm: -5.7%
LG: -3.1%
MOT: -1.8%

That is a lot of wealth transferred for one day.

Nokia Vertu: $3200+
Bang & Olufsen: $1200+

And, those are just mobile phones.

Last time I checked, both are unlocked and are not changing the world... Yes, they are really cool phones, but I have yet to see one in person, and I'm not sure why the mass public would buy one. It's like saying the Buggatti Veyron will change the world, when only a handful of people own one. Don't misunderstand me though, because I'm a huge Apple fan and love the iPhone (and it'll definitely sell better than the Bugatti), but I think Apple's scheme may backfire and may not be as profitable as they want it to be.

is your treo touch screen?

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i have to say i reckon there is no voip and IM (ichat) because maybe that was part of the deal with cisco for being allowed to use the iphone name. because their linksys iphone is for voip and IM only so no competition or confusion.

just something i thought of

Yes, all Treos are touch-screen.

I just watched the keynote. Wow is that cingular guy awful! I mean, watching him talk was truly painful.

SJ showed several video's on this thing, is 8gb enough for mail, video, itunes phone, osx etc, will the expansion slot alow increasing storage. he also said it would be available at apple stores

it is the true convergence device
ipod full screen
ipod video
smartphone
compact handheld computer
internet
contacts, sms,

maybe upgrade will be ichat av and video voicemail.

i like the way he said the killer app is making calls
very elegant
i wonder how long list to get one becomes????

There is actually no evidence of this -- from what I read Steve demoed using Internet mapping sites, not a GPS receiver built into the iPhone. This is a shame because the device has everything but that... and next to iPod functionality the GPS would be what I found most useful.

Just watched Jobs keynote..... awesome phone!!!!! Great functions, great product, price isn't bad either considering all the new technology, nothing like it on the market.

Conclusion: I Would NOT buy this phone. Jobs is keeping way too much up his sleeve. Wouldn't want to spend $599 to find out that Jobs is pushing his 4th Gen iPhone with even cooler functions in 5 months. Jobs is so good at doing this. Plus phones are now almost a fashion accessory I wouldn't be at all surprise that other variation of iPhone is on the pipeline with Apple and will be marketed soon ie. different color, ichat, bigger memory, os X leopard the list goes on.....

All that being said I probably will buy the phone anyway, never could resist apple products

iPhone is great (phone + iPod nano) not a replacement for iPod Video (we will see something coming soon)

8GB not enough (not becoz of Apple, technology is evolving - flash is still expensive)

Cingular - i do not like - they may have agreement until some time then unlock to all market - my hope and guess

at this price it could be expensive outside US

Hopefully next few months more Mac related annoucement...

and

"ONE MORE THING" we, apple fans never satisifed with any of the products, always wanting something better - that brings Best out of apple...

(ps - mine is t-mobile and contract ending Oct )

I would think that October would be a good time for your contract to end. You can let the early adopters be the guinea pigs, and jump in when the initial bugs have been sorted out -- and I'm sure there will be plenty to sort out!

1) I would agree as the interface, especially with iPhoto, seems to using distance vector graphics. I'm thinking you'll need to have Leopard to sync this properly will ALL of your Mac's features. Obvious exceptions, are the uses one gets from iTunes 8, which I'm sure will be required to use this device.
3) Voice and memo are certain. These are common on current cell phones and also available in Quicktime Pro. If they don't, it's not hard to make a Widget for this function.
4) I hadn't thought of that, but I'm guessing it does do video. What high-end, high-powered, robust cell phone doesn't?
5) Safari can read PDFs just fine.
6) You will be, not sure how, but you will. As for editing, there is always Google Docs. I now it can render pages fine, but I hope that Google starts being more "Apple friendly" with it's apps.
7) It;s on the back and it just screams Apple. I wonder how much Cingluar fought (and failed) at getting their name/logo on the phone?
9) I've never heard "push" used like this before. Sure, it makes sense, I gues JObs focuses so much on to show that Yahoo was offering it for free to iPhone users.
10) Ther was at least one. The cable is USb 2.0 with the standard iPod connector. All is compatible.
11) I see no reason why any of teh apps you mentions won't eventually be available. Paralles with TinyXP could come in very handy.
13) God, I hope not. 3rd-party developer freedom and OS X inclusion only.
14) They will be available in some fashion, I guarantee.
15) From the technical page, it seems there is only one.
16) I also guarantee a multi-alarm clock with world clock functions.
17) You might be able to use it as a Universal remote for your iTV via the wi-fi. If not per Apple, then perhaps via a hack.
19) The video iPod doesn't, and neither it or the iPhone seem to be made for working out, so I'm guessing no. However, I asked a similar question earlier and was reminded by Melgross that iPhone's built in accelerometer may be hacked, like with the MacBooks


PS: Did anyone else notice that the first pic of a working iPhone had a time of 9:41..... The exact time that Steve Job first announced the iPhone? I wonder how many pics with different times to load, as I can't imagine they had the speech time down that precise. Either way, it's those little details that keep me coming back to Apple.

So no indication of a replaceable battery? Wow. I just don't get that. What is so hard about designing a case that allows you to snap in a new battery?

This is the one thing about Apple I just don't get. You would think they would have learned something from the whole iPod battery fiasco.

Hopefully!

I don't understand ths common philosphy. People seem to be really upset at how quickly Apple updates it's product line while bitching at the same time that they aren't releasing stuff fast enough. If you want an iPhone, then get one; If the price and functions don't meet your needs then don't buy it. There will always something better down the road, but why forgo fun/luxury/comfort/ in the mean time?

It's preferences. The Nokia certainly isn't worth more in my eyes.

2 MP in a phone camera is plenty. I've seen higher rez pics from them, and they are bad.

Phones don't make good cameras.

The lens on a phone is really terrible. Thast limits the worth of the sensor right there. The processing is very poor as well.

It's good for a snapshot, or an emergency, but no more.

I believe Samsung announced an 8 MP phone. what a waste!

And just how much would you pay for such a device? And what battery life are you willing to accept?

Higher capacities will come. Have you forgotten the first iPod had a small capacity?


We comprehend it. We also comprehend that 8 GB is all that Apple can stuff into this thing right now, or they would have put more inside.

Wait a year, and it will go to 6 and 12, or 8 and 16.


You did get the point! Then don't complain about capacity!

Then you have unrealistic expectations.

I can also afford whatever I want. Very possibly we will pick up two of these, and maybe three, if my daughter also wants one.

Is it perfect? No, of course not. Nothing is.

Is it better than anything else aroundif it does what you mostly want it to? Yes. Do some others have some features even this does not? Of course!

If those features are more of interest, by all means, buy one of them.

But don't expect any device to be all things to all people. It will never happen.

What is wrong with some people here?

Have you no idea about business?

Like it or not, Cingular is the biggest wireless company. They also use GSM. T-Mobile is the only other GSM company here, in the USA.

Would you rather they went to T-Mobile, which is, despite what you say, even worse?

They went to GSM because they want to market their phone worldwide, and 4 freq. GSM is the only way to do it.

I would have prefered they came out with a CDMA phone instead, or, as well, but it's not in the cards.

Quite a few people here are not even happy it won't be available overseas when it will be here. They would be even angrier if it were to be CDMA, and never come over.

They did the right thing.

Leased, is more like it.


I don't think so. HD's, even small ones, use more power, and are less resistant to shock. People drop their phones all the time. Cold affects HD's while it doesn't affect Flash.

I think we'll find there's more to it than that.

It depends on what kind of programs we can install, if any.

As much as I want one, I may following suit. I had Cingular years ago and wasn't happy.

This link has a list of all the Smart Phones/PDAs available at Cingular. The price of the iPhone is $100 to $200 more than the next highest phone.

I'll be looking into pricing next. If they have no unlimited data plan, then I'm definitely not going with Cingular.

I've got a T-Mobile RAZR V3 I'll be looking to sell in the June timeframe, if anyone is interested. I can even get it unlocked for you.

The iPhone is way cool!

Take that all you Blakberry Nazis!

The video is 480 x 320, at best! It doesn't take up that much space.

It's not what he was hired for.

I believe he did say GPS was there. So that's intriguing.

But, that can mean several things. ALL cellphones have built-in GPS (at least in the USA). But, whether we can access it, is another matter. It could also be one way. The phone company can use it to track you (the original purpose), but you can't use it to track yourself!

So, did he mean that it could be used by us?

They care too much about thickness.

I agree, I have a Samsung NV10, it's 7Mp. Whilst it looks really cool, and the UI is excellent, the images are fairly noisy compared to my Pentax 5Mp that got stolen.

Are you sure about that? GPS needs line of sight to work, and I don't see (visually) any form of receiver on my RAZR V3.

Anyway he did explicitly say "GPS" also remember that he was inside, so I don't know how he could have accessed the GPS satellites. And I don't see why he would mention GPS feature if it wasn't ment for the end user, tantamount to false advertising don't you think?

I think GPS is a feature, he did say Google maps WITH directions. Directions were also listed as a feature when he did the summary.

I will NEVER go CIngular. I left them when they were still Bellsouth. Lousy customer service and you miss a lot of calls that never go through cause of "busy network" messages.

I'm sure he said it, and I'm sure that All USA cellphones have it.

Are you talking about AGPS? The FCC Phase II requirements (50m-300m)? You still need line-of-sight for ~1m accuracy and you still need a sensor and I don't see one.

Don't get me wrong, however they do the technology is great, but I'm totally clueless on how this technology works, it's accuracy, it's limitations (if any), etcetera. Also what level of public awareness of this is there, I mean I may live in a hole, but does the general public have a common knowledge of the E911 wireless system? I would think that the FCC would make people more aware of the situation.

Any links on this technology would be much appreciated!

All actual GPS receivers use AGPS, which, by the way, can have 3 meter accuracy.

Which technology phones have, depends on the phone. I can't speak to each one.

Jobs mentioned GPS, that's all we can know now.

Maybe it isn't implimented as yet, so no more is being said right now.

As far as links go, just tap AGPS into Google.