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Originally Posted by Keviano View Post

True... In the US... The iPhone is quad-band, so there'd be little stopping Apple releasing an unlocked model in Asia or Europe that would work anywhere else in the world.

£1000 a month Cingular bill is not fun. Neither is an additional $700 after the phone has been disconnected, plus disconnection charges, plus tax, plus all those other Cingular added expenses.

If Apple decide on complete exclusivity with big C, then I won't be getting one. For shame.


My Cingular bill is about 100 bucks with 2 lines.

Cingular for me would charge $150 to cancel a contract.

Not sure what Cingular you deal with.
post #202 of 437
Wow.

This is what Apple initially wanted to Newton to be.

Remember, this was just a demo of a prototype. Not all features were shown.

I expect that Apple and 3rd party developers will create a LOT of widgets for the iPhone.

GPS
Handwriting / notetaking
Voice recording
Games
iChat functionality (AIM, Yahoo IM, etc)
Video conferencing (although, repositioning of the camera would be required)
Ability to connect to your computer for internet access through the phone
Office, or an Office clone (similar to Documents 2 Go on Palm)
Video recording

Can you get it inscribed when you order from the Apple Store?

I'm suprised they did not show the Calendar and To Do functions. This is the Killer-app on my Treo. I'd be lost without it.

Someone brought up lack of IR, so it cannot be used as a remote. At first I thought that was a pretty gay suggestion, but now I think if anyone could solve the problem of TOO MANY REMOTES, it's Apple.

Not sure why everyone is whining about screen smudges. I NEVER clean the screen of my Treo, and when it's ON it looks perfect. You only see the smudges when the screen is off. I'm also rought on it, and carry it in the same pocket with keys, etc, and the screen holds up remarkably well against scratches. I'm sure the iPhone will, too.

I doubt we'll see a hard-drive version. But the memory will eventually increase.

Why do so many people want 2 batteries?

I think the price is right. Costs less than my Treo 650 did when new.

The iPhone will change the world.

BTW: new iPods sporting the same design as the iPhone will appear soon.

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post #203 of 437
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The iPhone will change the world.

The iPhone cannot change the world if it's priced at ~$1k unlocked, or if you have to join crappy Cingular service to own it.
post #204 of 437
Apple: +8.3%

Its competitors:

RIM: -7.7%
Nokia: -1.4%
Palm: -5.7%
LG: -3.1%
MOT: -1.8%

That is a lot of wealth transferred for one day.
post #205 of 437
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The iPhone cannot change the world if it's priced at ~$1k unlocked, or if you have to join crappy Cingular service to own it.

Nokia Vertu: $3200+
Bang & Olufsen: $1200+

And, those are just mobile phones.
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Nokia Vertu: $3200+
Bang & Olufsen: $1200+

And, those are just mobile phones.

Last time I checked, both are unlocked and are not changing the world... Yes, they are really cool phones, but I have yet to see one in person, and I'm not sure why the mass public would buy one. It's like saying the Buggatti Veyron will change the world, when only a handful of people own one. Don't misunderstand me though, because I'm a huge Apple fan and love the iPhone (and it'll definitely sell better than the Bugatti), but I think Apple's scheme may backfire and may not be as profitable as they want it to be.
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Originally Posted by IHateRegistering View Post

Wow.

Not sure why everyone is whining about screen smudges. I NEVER clean the screen of my Treo, and when it's ON it looks perfect. You only see the smudges when the screen is off. I'm also rought on it, and carry it in the same pocket with keys, etc, and the screen holds up remarkably well against scratches. I'm sure the iPhone will, too.

is your treo touch screen?

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i have to say i reckon there is no voip and IM (ichat) because maybe that was part of the deal with cisco for being allowed to use the iphone name. because their linksys iphone is for voip and IM only so no competition or confusion.

just something i thought of
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Originally Posted by jp_flashman View Post

is your treo touch screen?

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i have to say i reckon there is no voip and IM (ichat) because maybe that was part of the deal with cisco for being allowed to use the iphone name. because their linksys iphone is for voip and IM only so no competition or confusion.

just something i thought of

Yes, all Treos are touch-screen.

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post #209 of 437
I just watched the keynote. Wow is that cingular guy awful! I mean, watching him talk was truly painful.
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post #210 of 437
SJ showed several video's on this thing, is 8gb enough for mail, video, itunes phone, osx etc, will the expansion slot alow increasing storage. he also said it would be available at apple stores

it is the true convergence device
ipod full screen
ipod video
smartphone
compact handheld computer
internet
contacts, sms,

maybe upgrade will be ichat av and video voicemail.

i like the way he said the killer app is making calls
very elegant
i wonder how long list to get one becomes????
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post #211 of 437
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Originally Posted by Kesh View Post

GPS is built-in, as Steve demoed.

There is actually no evidence of this -- from what I read Steve demoed using Internet mapping sites, not a GPS receiver built into the iPhone. This is a shame because the device has everything but that... and next to iPod functionality the GPS would be what I found most useful.
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i REALLY REALLY REALLY wish that there was appleworks or at least textedit!!!!

i could use that soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much
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Oh, btw, no one commented on the fact that Apple is no longer known as Apple Computer Inc. but now have changed their name to just Apple Inc.
post #214 of 437
Just watched Jobs keynote..... awesome phone!!!!! Great functions, great product, price isn't bad either considering all the new technology, nothing like it on the market.

Conclusion: I Would NOT buy this phone. Jobs is keeping way too much up his sleeve. Wouldn't want to spend $599 to find out that Jobs is pushing his 4th Gen iPhone with even cooler functions in 5 months. Jobs is so good at doing this. Plus phones are now almost a fashion accessory I wouldn't be at all surprise that other variation of iPhone is on the pipeline with Apple and will be marketed soon ie. different color, ichat, bigger memory, os X leopard the list goes on.....

All that being said I probably will buy the phone anyway, never could resist apple products
post #215 of 437
iPhone is great (phone + iPod nano) not a replacement for iPod Video (we will see something coming soon)

8GB not enough (not becoz of Apple, technology is evolving - flash is still expensive)

Cingular - i do not like - they may have agreement until some time then unlock to all market - my hope and guess

at this price it could be expensive outside US

Hopefully next few months more Mac related annoucement...

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"ONE MORE THING" we, apple fans never satisifed with any of the products, always wanting something better - that brings Best out of apple...

(ps - mine is t-mobile and contract ending Oct )

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post #216 of 437
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(ps - mine is t-mobile and contract ending Oct )

I would think that October would be a good time for your contract to end. You can let the early adopters be the guinea pigs, and jump in when the initial bugs have been sorted out -- and I'm sure there will be plenty to sort out!
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mozzarella View Post



Some observations...
1) It appears as though the OSX it is running is based on Leopard tech.
2) Mail & Notes but no ToDo.app
3) Voice memos? Audio recording? a microphone jack was mentioned I believe
4) 2MP camera but no video capture mentioned
5) No Preview.app for reading PDFs!???
6) No TextEdit so no way to view a .doc attachment??
7) no Apple logo on front of device(I can't imagine any other company exercising that kind of restraint)
8) GPS should be doable through external Bluetooth GPS reciever
9) .Mac integration not mentioned at all, instead Yahoo! push email
10) No pics of desktop dock, but I assume it should be compatible with current iPod chargers.
11) Will developers be able to get in on this? (Skype, Mozilla, Parallels, just kidding)
12) Will Apple control the apps like it does iPod games?
13) Will they sell additional apps through iTunes store?
14) No games on this! Not even Chess!
15) Only a single battery meter is showing (Kevin Rose said it had dual batteries?)
16) I see Clock but I also hope it has an Alarm Clock function.
17) No infared! (can't use as a universal remote)
18) Didn't actually show the calendar app in action
19) I hope it supports the Nike+

1) I would agree as the interface, especially with iPhoto, seems to using distance vector graphics. I'm thinking you'll need to have Leopard to sync this properly will ALL of your Mac's features. Obvious exceptions, are the uses one gets from iTunes 8, which I'm sure will be required to use this device.
3) Voice and memo are certain. These are common on current cell phones and also available in Quicktime Pro. If they don't, it's not hard to make a Widget for this function.
4) I hadn't thought of that, but I'm guessing it does do video. What high-end, high-powered, robust cell phone doesn't?
5) Safari can read PDFs just fine.
6) You will be, not sure how, but you will. As for editing, there is always Google Docs. I now it can render pages fine, but I hope that Google starts being more "Apple friendly" with it's apps.
7) It;s on the back and it just screams Apple. I wonder how much Cingluar fought (and failed) at getting their name/logo on the phone?
9) I've never heard "push" used like this before. Sure, it makes sense, I gues JObs focuses so much on to show that Yahoo was offering it for free to iPhone users.
10) Ther was at least one. The cable is USb 2.0 with the standard iPod connector. All is compatible.
11) I see no reason why any of teh apps you mentions won't eventually be available. Paralles with TinyXP could come in very handy.
13) God, I hope not. 3rd-party developer freedom and OS X inclusion only.
14) They will be available in some fashion, I guarantee.
15) From the technical page, it seems there is only one.
16) I also guarantee a multi-alarm clock with world clock functions.
17) You might be able to use it as a Universal remote for your iTV via the wi-fi. If not per Apple, then perhaps via a hack.
19) The video iPod doesn't, and neither it or the iPhone seem to be made for working out, so I'm guessing no. However, I asked a similar question earlier and was reminded by Melgross that iPhone's built in accelerometer may be hacked, like with the MacBooks


PS: Did anyone else notice that the first pic of a working iPhone had a time of 9:41..... The exact time that Steve Job first announced the iPhone? I wonder how many pics with different times to load, as I can't imagine they had the speech time down that precise. Either way, it's those little details that keep me coming back to Apple.
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post #218 of 437
So no indication of a replaceable battery? Wow. I just don't get that. What is so hard about designing a case that allows you to snap in a new battery?

This is the one thing about Apple I just don't get. You would think they would have learned something from the whole iPod battery fiasco.

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I would think that October would be a good time for your contract to end. You can let the early adopters be the guinea pigs, and jump in when the initial bugs have been sorted out -- and I'm sure there will be plenty to sort out!

Hopefully!

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post #220 of 437
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I Would NOT buy this phone. Jobs is keeping way too much up his sleeve. Wouldn't want to spend $599 to find out that Jobs is pushing his 4th Gen iPhone with even cooler functions in 5 months.

I don't understand ths common philosphy. People seem to be really upset at how quickly Apple updates it's product line while bitching at the same time that they aren't releasing stuff fast enough. If you want an iPhone, then get one; If the price and functions don't meet your needs then don't buy it. There will always something better down the road, but why forgo fun/luxury/comfort/ in the mean time?
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post #221 of 437
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Originally Posted by aegisdesign View Post

A Treo 750 here in the UK from vodafone with a 12 month £25 a month contract is £40. If you go for an 18 month contract it's free.

The P990 I had from Orange with a 12 month contract as an upgrade for me was free too.

Most of the HTC clones are about that too.

The only phones that attract more of a premium are things like the Nokia 8800.

It's preferences. The Nokia certainly isn't worth more in my eyes.
post #222 of 437
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

Megapixels don't make a good camera. I've never seen a case where more megapixels on a camera phone beyond that yielded better picture quality, except maybe for the cameras that happen to have an integrated phone.

2 MP in a phone camera is plenty. I've seen higher rez pics from them, and they are bad.

Phones don't make good cameras.

The lens on a phone is really terrible. Thast limits the worth of the sensor right there. The processing is very poor as well.

It's good for a snapshot, or an emergency, but no more.

I believe Samsung announced an 8 MP phone. what a waste!
post #223 of 437
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Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post

You really don't understand why people have 20+ GB iPods do you? Many people (like me) like to be able to carry around their entire music collection. Of course we can't listen to the whole lot on a single charge. But it means that we have our entire collection with us. We don't have to decide before we leave the house what we want to listen to when we are out/away for the weekend/on holiday. We can choose as the mood takes us.

And just how much would you pay for such a device? And what battery life are you willing to accept?

Higher capacities will come. Have you forgotten the first iPod had a small capacity?

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Nope. The price is subsidised by the contract (and we don't know yet how much the monthly charge will be). Do you people really not comprehend the technology packed into this thing? Not to mention all the R&D costs: that's not an off-the-shelf touch screen, for example, that's a proprietary Apple technology. Without subsidy, this thing would be even more expensive.

We comprehend it. We also comprehend that 8 GB is all that Apple can stuff into this thing right now, or they would have put more inside.

Wait a year, and it will go to 6 and 12, or 8 and 16.

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Don't you think the price has been set according to what Apple expect flash to cost in June? Don't forget all the other (extremely expensive) tech in this device.

You did get the point! Then don't complain about capacity!
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Originally Posted by AaronHarmon View Post

You know guys, I'm sorry if I'm offending any of you, I am just really disapointed. I have been looking forward to this device for just as long as the rest of you. My contract with Alltel is set to pop in 3 months, the timing is perfect. The device is not as far as I'm concerned. I could probably even live with 16 gigs. 8 is just awful. I work 3rd shift at a hospital and watch alot of video at night. I would be resynching this thing constantly to keep the material fresh. I don't always know what I'm going to be in the mood to watch or listen to. 8 gig just isn't enough flexability as far as I'm concerned. Maybe I'll check back with version two.

Just so you know I was disapointed with the ITV and well and Bill Gate's CES keynote was underwhelming too (I was looking forward to some things for the 360 that didn't pan out as rumored).

Anyway, I make gobs of money, doing what I do. Technology and new gadgets are my favorite bad investment. I was really looking forward for a reason to buy myself some new toys. I didn't happen.

I would have been happy with a 100 gig true video Ipod, that didn't happen either.

Bring on the 4 core MBP, I'll take one of those as well.

I looked forward to these events for a while and while I think the phone looks slick, It's not enough for me to replace my other $600 smart phone.

Then you have unrealistic expectations.

I can also afford whatever I want. Very possibly we will pick up two of these, and maybe three, if my daughter also wants one.

Is it perfect? No, of course not. Nothing is.

Is it better than anything else aroundif it does what you mostly want it to? Yes. Do some others have some features even this does not? Of course!

If those features are more of interest, by all means, buy one of them.

But don't expect any device to be all things to all people. It will never happen.
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Originally Posted by Evagee View Post

I guess history is bound to repeat itself after all- yet another EXTREMELY great idea/product with bad marketing. I would have bought two yesterday- But there's a reason Cingular is the WORST rated wireless company around (actually there are several- I know being a customer for several years but no longer.)

Come on Apple- doesn't somebody there read Consumer Reports? These folks are rated the worst NATIONWIDE! Apple's rated the best! Geez this is frustrating!

I guess Verizon just wants to nickel and dime everybody so they can't do anything (except get great wireless service) and Cingular will let you do just about anything (except talk on a reliable connection- if you can get one).

Sorry Apple- I love ya, but not enough to deal with Cingular. Guess I'll keep hacking with my E815...

What is wrong with some people here?

Have you no idea about business?

Like it or not, Cingular is the biggest wireless company. They also use GSM. T-Mobile is the only other GSM company here, in the USA.

Would you rather they went to T-Mobile, which is, despite what you say, even worse?

They went to GSM because they want to market their phone worldwide, and 4 freq. GSM is the only way to do it.

I would have prefered they came out with a CDMA phone instead, or, as well, but it's not in the cards.

Quite a few people here are not even happy it won't be available overseas when it will be here. They would be even angrier if it were to be CDMA, and never come over.

They did the right thing.
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Originally Posted by e1618978 View Post

Cisco sold them rights to the name, the news was on yahoo finance.

Leased, is more like it.

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I think that it was Seagate that just announced really tiny 30 and 60 gb drives - I would not be surprised to see these in the device instead of flash. June is a long time away.

I don't think so. HD's, even small ones, use more power, and are less resistant to shock. People drop their phones all the time. Cold affects HD's while it doesn't affect Flash.
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Originally Posted by gpco View Post

Well... some of you are getting the iPhone concept wrong.

This new device is after all only a Cell Phone with a lot of features: music player, web browsing, watch videos, take pictures, etc. If you compare the iPhone to a Blackberry or a Treo, it is way beyond them...As far as I know, the biggest storage you can get with a Treo or Blackberry is 2GB and you have to buy an SD Card at xxx price, not built-in; so 8GB built-in are great for a cell phone. And don't forget about the new touch screen technology, for me is great, I hate stylus, I have a palm and I always use my finger tip to navigate and write.

For me, this is a great device, it could have more features, more storage, more I don't know what; but thinking of it as the kind of device it is (a cell phone); it is just perfect.

I think we'll find there's more to it than that.

It depends on what kind of programs we can install, if any.
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Originally Posted by Keviano View Post

True... In the US... The iPhone is quad-band, so there'd be little stopping Apple releasing an unlocked model in Asia or Europe that would work anywhere else in the world.

£1000 a month Cingular bill is not fun. Neither is an additional $700 after the phone has been disconnected, plus disconnection charges, plus tax, plus all those other Cingular added expenses.

If Apple decide on complete exclusivity with big C, then I won't be getting one. For shame.

As much as I want one, I may following suit. I had Cingular years ago and wasn't happy.

This link has a list of all the Smart Phones/PDAs available at Cingular. The price of the iPhone is $100 to $200 more than the next highest phone.

I'll be looking into pricing next. If they have no unlimited data plan, then I'm definitely not going with Cingular.
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I've got a T-Mobile RAZR V3 I'll be looking to sell in the June timeframe, if anyone is interested. I can even get it unlocked for you.

The iPhone is way cool!

Take that all you Blakberry Nazis!

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Originally Posted by dayhill View Post

The phone had a memory slot so I could trade out cards. 8 gig doesn't seem like much for as much video as I have. Would be very nice not to have to choose for when I am on the road. Will I be able to download from iTunes directly to the iPhone? Not sure if that was mentioned.

The video is 480 x 320, at best! It doesn't take up that much space.
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I just watched the keynote. Wow is that cingular guy awful! I mean, watching him talk was truly painful.

It's not what he was hired for.
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There is actually no evidence of this -- from what I read Steve demoed using Internet mapping sites, not a GPS receiver built into the iPhone. This is a shame because the device has everything but that... and next to iPod functionality the GPS would be what I found most useful.

I believe he did say GPS was there. So that's intriguing.

But, that can mean several things. ALL cellphones have built-in GPS (at least in the USA). But, whether we can access it, is another matter. It could also be one way. The phone company can use it to track you (the original purpose), but you can't use it to track yourself!

So, did he mean that it could be used by us?
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So no indication of a replaceable battery? Wow. I just don't get that. What is so hard about designing a case that allows you to snap in a new battery?

This is the one thing about Apple I just don't get. You would think they would have learned something from the whole iPod battery fiasco.


They care too much about thickness.
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

2 MP in a phone camera is plenty. I've seen higher rez pics from them, and they are bad.!

I agree, I have a Samsung NV10, it's 7Mp. Whilst it looks really cool, and the UI is excellent, the images are fairly noisy compared to my Pentax 5Mp that got stolen.
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I believe he did say GPS was there. So that's intriguing.

But, that can mean several things. ALL cellphones have built-in GPS (at least in the USA). But, whether we can access it, is another matter. It could also be one way. The phone company can use it to track you (the original purpose), but you can't use it to track yourself!

So, did he mean that it could be used by us?



Are you sure about that? GPS needs line of sight to work, and I don't see (visually) any form of receiver on my RAZR V3.

Anyway he did explicitly say "GPS" also remember that he was inside, so I don't know how he could have accessed the GPS satellites. And I don't see why he would mention GPS feature if it wasn't ment for the end user, tantamount to false advertising don't you think?

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Are you sure about that? GPS needs line of sight to work, and I don't see (visually) any form of receiver on my RAZR V3.

Anyway he did explicitly say "GPS" also remember that he was inside, so I don't know how he could have accessed the GPS satellites. And I don't see why he would mention GPS feature if it wasn't ment for the end user, tantamount to false advertising don't you think?


I think GPS is a feature, he did say Google maps WITH directions. Directions were also listed as a feature when he did the summary.
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I will NEVER go CIngular. I left them when they were still Bellsouth. Lousy customer service and you miss a lot of calls that never go through cause of "busy network" messages.
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Are you sure about that? GPS needs line of sight to work, and I don't see (visually) any form of receiver on my RAZR V3.

Anyway he did explicitly say "GPS" also remember that he was inside, so I don't know how he could have accessed the GPS satellites. And I don't see why he would mention GPS feature if it wasn't ment for the end user, tantamount to false advertising don't you think?


I'm sure he said it, and I'm sure that All USA cellphones have it.
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I'm sure he said it, and I'm sure that All USA cellphones have it.



Are you talking about AGPS? The FCC Phase II requirements (50m-300m)? You still need line-of-sight for ~1m accuracy and you still need a sensor and I don't see one.

Don't get me wrong, however they do the technology is great, but I'm totally clueless on how this technology works, it's accuracy, it's limitations (if any), etcetera. Also what level of public awareness of this is there, I mean I may live in a hole, but does the general public have a common knowledge of the E911 wireless system? I would think that the FCC would make people more aware of the situation.

Any links on this technology would be much appreciated!

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Originally Posted by franksargent View Post



Are you talking about AGPS? The FCC Phase II requirements (50m-300m)? You still need line-of-sight for ~1m accuracy and you still need a sensor and I don't see one.

Don't get me wrong, however they do the technology is great, but I'm totally clueless on how this technology works, it's accuracy, it's limitations (if any), etcetera. Also what level of public awareness of this is there, I mean I may live in a hole, but does the general public have a common knowledge of the E911 wireless system? I would think that the FCC would make people more aware of the situation.

Any links on this technology would be much appreciated!


All actual GPS receivers use AGPS, which, by the way, can have 3 meter accuracy.

Which technology phones have, depends on the phone. I can't speak to each one.

Jobs mentioned GPS, that's all we can know now.

Maybe it isn't implimented as yet, so no more is being said right now.

As far as links go, just tap AGPS into Google.
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