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The iPhone is simply incredible. However Jobs didn't address one point that I am sure he didn't over look (considering his eye for perfection). How do you avoid from scratching or smudging the screen with regular use? Was he actually coming in contact with the screen or was he able to affect it by just hovering over it with his finger?

The iPhone reminds me of a quote from Christopher Nolan's movie The Prestige when Cutter says "This wasn't built by a magician. It was built by a wizard."
post #2 of 26
im pretty sure it is touch screen and you will need to touch the screen.

however, this just got me thinking. why not have a little glove that you can wear on your index finger, specially for using the phone.

you read it here first folks.
post #3 of 26
It's a touchscreen. It's a new technology called "multi-touch," which lets you use two different fingers simultaneously (i.e. you can resize an image using two fingers and spreading them apart or bringing them closer). I would think that the screen had a special coating that enables this to not be a problem, so I think it's all good.
post #4 of 26
Yes, it is a TOUCH screen. You touch it and it (eventually) gets smudges. Just like that computer monitor you're looking at right now. But just like you do with your iPod, when the smudges get bad enough, you give it a quick swipe on your shirt to get them off. That's it. 8)
post #5 of 26
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however, this just got me thinking. why not have a little glove that you can wear on your index finger, specially for using the phone.

maybe it'll be marketed by a third party, but apple would never do that. imagine whipping out your lust-inducing new iPhone and then having to scrounge in your pocket for your little patterned finger-condom. actually you'd have to put it on before whipping out the phone, or otherwise transfer the phone back to a pocket to roll on the rubber... ain't gonna happen.

and that's apart from how it would remove all the flexibility of being able to use whatever fingers you want depending on the application or the multi-touch function.

I would imagine that they've put their resources instead into making the screen itself as easy to wipe clean as possible. as jupiterone notes.
post #6 of 26
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I would think the scratching would be more of a concern since you can't just wipe them away. I'm sure there will be all sorts of aftermarket protectors for the screen, but I hope Apple picks a scratch resistant cover/overlay nonetheless.
post #7 of 26
No more of a concern than when you buy any new gadget. Everyone stop worrying. I'm sure Apple has picked the appropriate material for the overall design specs.

Face it, surfaces scratch, dishes chip, tiled floors crack. These are facts of life. What gadgets do you know that are used constantly and are still in pristine condition. It's called wear and tear.
post #8 of 26
my desktop computer for one..


my only complaint is the intergration of it all.. It seems to be marketed towards younger people with lots of money (or who have parents with lots of money)

If I got a phone for business, I wouldnt need mp3, movies, and pictures. If I got a phone for fun, unless I have a lot of spending money burning a hole in my pocket, I wouldnt drop $500.

It is 5 years ahead of its time, it wont be practical until then either..
post #9 of 26
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Originally Posted by JupiterOne View Post

No more of a concern than when you buy any new gadget. Everyone stop worrying. I'm sure Apple has picked the appropriate material for the overall design specs.

Face it, surfaces scratch, dishes chip, tiled floors crack. These are facts of life. What gadgets do you know that are used constantly and are still in pristine condition. It's called wear and tear.

Ahhhh someone in this forum does have some COMMON SENSE!! the rest of you people seem so stupid!
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post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by AlconR View Post

my desktop computer for one..


my only complaint is the intergration of it all.. It seems to be marketed towards younger people with lots of money (or who have parents with lots of money)

If I got a phone for business, I wouldnt need mp3, movies, and pictures. If I got a phone for fun, unless I have a lot of spending money burning a hole in my pocket, I wouldnt drop $500.

It is 5 years ahead of its time, it wont be practical until then either..

Many people in business need to use images and send them to clients/coworkers. Videos are now as common and useful as photos for many uses. Enjoying an mp3 on a train ride is not excessive. Having a device that makes one efficient and productive and is a pleasure to use is surely an advantage. This device is practial and is desired now by many.
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post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by AlconR View Post

It seems to be marketed towards younger people with lots of money (or who have parents with lots of money)

If I got a phone for business, I wouldnt need mp3, movies, and pictures. If I got a phone for fun, unless I have a lot of spending money burning a hole in my pocket, I wouldnt drop $500.

It is 5 years ahead of its time, it wont be practical until then either..

to anyone who is complaining about the price -

500-600 is a lot to spend a phone, no denying that. But this is a brand new product with top of the line technology. It's going to be expensive. Newest technology is always the most expensive.

In 1984, apple computer released its original mac. the thing cost 2500! that's the mac pro! it was replaced later in the year, and the new macintosh cost 3200!!

In 1989, apple released its first portable computer. Sold for 6500!

Now, a more relevant approach;
the first iPod (10gig) sold for 500 dollars. just an ipod. played music. that's it.
the iPod photo (60gig) sold for 600 dollars. played music. held photos. color.

Now, for 500 dollars you can get a phone that plays music at videos, has a camera, has wifi and bluetooth, full screen touch screen... it's truely a revolutionary device. Granted, it only has 4 gigabytes of storage, but that can be worked on in a relatively short amount of time. In a year, that will have at least doubled. Heck, the thing's not even out yet. Who knows what additions could be announced?

sure, it may be a bit unpractical, but who had 10 gigs of music when the first ipod came out?
post #12 of 26
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Now, a more relevant approach;
the first iPod (10gig) sold for 500 dollars. just an ipod.

No, it was 5GB and sold for $500. The wheel on that one actually did spin too. The 2nd generation introduced the 10GB model (alongside the 5GB) and went to a touch surface for the wheel but still had buttons around the circumference.




Just a small correction that doesn't really detract from your point.
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post #13 of 26
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No, it was 5GB and sold for $500. The wheel on that one actually did spin too. The 2nd generation introduced the 10GB model (alongside the 5GB) and went to a touch surface for the wheel but still had buttons around the circumference.





Just a small correction that doesn't really detract from your point.

forgot about that one. my bad
post #14 of 26
The NYT article by David Pogue addresses the smudging issue. He just wiped it on his shirt and all was well.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=htt...th-the-iphone/
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by Bancho View Post

No, it was 5GB and sold for $500. The wheel on that one actually did spin too. The 2nd generation introduced the 10GB model (alongside the 5GB) and went to a touch surface for the wheel but still had buttons around the circumference.




Just a small correction that doesn't really detract from your point.

Actually, it was $399..., and the 10GB introduced at MacWorld Tokyo was a spin-wheel as well...I know...I had it. THAT 10GB was $499. The spinless wheel wasn't introduced until the 20GB option was added.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by Padilla79 View Post

It's a touchscreen. It's a new technology called "multi-touch," which lets you use two different fingers simultaneously (i.e. you can resize an image using two fingers and spreading them apart or bringing them closer). I would think that the screen had a special coating that enables this to not be a problem, so I think it's all good.

What about Jeff Han? Didn't he develop multi-touch at MIT? Did Apple hire him or people from his department? It was interesting that Jobs made it sound like Apple had independently developed multi-touch when this seems not to be the case. I suppose if MIT had no patents on this technology and/or it was not implemented in a cell phone form the issue may be moot.

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post #17 of 26
It's easier to work on an existing product than it is to invent it. Apple will release the iPhone (yes, the iPhone) and make it better in coming years - just like the iPod. Nobody will release anything like this for at least 2-3 years...just like the iPod. Microsoft won't copy this device for another 4-6 years, just like the iPod. Get my drift? JUST LIKE THE iPOD!

Now...I don't want to confuse you, but the iPod will soon sport a touch screen, JUST LIKE THE iPHONE. ha
post #18 of 26
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Originally Posted by krlock View Post

im pretty sure it is touch screen and you will need to touch the screen.

however, this just got me thinking. why not have a little glove that you can wear on your index finger, specially for using the phone.

you read it here first folks.

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post #19 of 26
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Actually, it was $399..., and the 10GB introduced at MacWorld Tokyo was a spin-wheel as well...I know...I had it. THAT 10GB was $499. The spinless wheel wasn't introduced until the 20GB option was added.


hehe, I guess we're all learning a little .

However, I have a non-spin wheel 10GB 2nd gen iPod right here on my desk and I started wondering more about all the changes the iPod's seen over the years. It's kinda interesting to think how much the iPod has actually evolved since it was introduced.

iPod History
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post #20 of 26
This is more of a core animation thing than a touchscreen, but:

I just noticed on the Apple iPhone videos that when you try to scroll past the end of webpage in Safari it sort of "bounces" to let you know you are at an edge. That is, the top or bottom edge of the page briefly pulls free of the screen edge, revealing a bit of black space, then snaps back.

Apple is the only company I know of that would bother with that kind of detail, but the sum of those details are what make the experience so pleasurable, even if you aren't really aware of them.
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post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by Bancho View Post

hehe, I guess we're all learning a little .

However, I have a non-spin wheel 10GB 2nd gen iPod right here on my desk and I started wondering more about all the changes the iPod's seen over the years. It's kinda interesting to think how much the iPod has actually evolved since it was introduced.

iPod History



yeah i'm personally a big fan of jobs' first introduction of the ipod. the iphone's keynote is pretty much a flashback. or maybe a flashforward. i dunno.
post #22 of 26
I repeat: What about Jeff Han and his work on multi-touch? Did Apple hire him or negotiate rights to multi-touch? Anyone privy to this development?...

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post #23 of 26
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Yes, it is a TOUCH screen. You touch it and it (eventually) gets smudges. Just like that computer monitor you're looking at right now. But just like you do with your iPod, when the smudges get bad enough, you give it a quick swipe on your shirt to get them off. That's it. 8)

haha i like the way you think, its exactly what i do, and im sure the glass will be made of some type of carbon or something that is scratch resistant, so itll be alright...and jobs is a perfectionist dont worry it wont screw your phone up hell make it right...i just love the multi-touch feature, so cool
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by JupiterOne View Post

Yes, it is a TOUCH screen. You touch it and it (eventually) gets smudges. Just like that computer monitor you're looking at right now. But just like you do with your iPod, when the smudges get bad enough, you give it a quick swipe on your shirt to get them off. That's it. 8)

haha i like the way you think, its exactly what i do, and im sure the glass will be made of some type of carbon or something that is scratch resistant, so itll be alright...and jobs is a perfectionist dont worry it wont screw your phone up hell make it right...i just love the multi-touch feature, so cool
post #25 of 26
Well, I did a little snooping around and found this:

January 10, 2007, 9:49 am
Hush Tactics for the iPhone
By David Pogue
Tags: iPhone, Macworld, Steve Jobs


I asked Steve Jobs if he knew of the work of Jeffrey Han, who’s been demonstrating his big “multi-touch” screen technology since at least August 2005. (I mentioned this similarity in my last blog post.)

Mr. Jobs said, “We’ve had ours for two and a half years,” implying that Apple’s version came first.

I also asked Mr. Jobs and Cingular’s CEO, Stan Sigman, how Cingular managed to keep the iPhone a secret; he conceded that the company had never had to manage a project in such secrecy before.

The answer, I was told, is that Cingular (like Apple) divided the project up into teams of engineers, each of whom worked on only one section of the phone. In fact, Apple actually supplied Cingular with a fakeout user-interface design that bore no resemblance to the final one, so that its programmers wouldn’t know what they were working on.

At one point, a Cingular rep pointed out that the phone lacked a certain button. “Don’t worry,” Apple reported back. “We can always add that after the phone ships.” It was a reference to the fact that on a touch-screen phone, adding a button is just a software upgrade—but that reply baffled the heck out of the Cingular guy.

---original link---

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post #26 of 26
haha WOW...that is so cool....lol i bet you so much stuff can be added through apples site and software, all you gotta do is sync that baby to your macbook and bam youve got like 10 new features haha
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