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Although Apple's iPhone won't start shipping for another 6 months, exclusive wireless carrier Cingular is already fielding tons of inquiries on the communications device from enthused customers, an analyst for JMP Securities said on Thursday.

"Based on the buzz at Macworld and a number of channel calls we made to Cingular stores around the country since the product was announced, we believe the product will be successful," analyst Ingrid Ebeling wrote in a research note to clients on Thursday.

She said 75 percent of the 20 clerks she spoke with responded by saying they have received a lot of inquiries about the iPhone and overall the tone of the calls was extremely positive.

"We were very impressed with the form factor and features, especially the U/I, the visual voicemail feature, and touch screen controls, among other things," she told clients.

While Apple has projected it will sell 10 million units through calendar year 2008, Ebeling said she is taking a more conservative approach and is forecasting 8.5 million units through the same time period "with an approximate 2 million unit decline in iPod units" to account for some likely cannibalization.

"We’ve assumed modest share with Cingular’s 58 million subscribers (starting at 0.35 percent share rolling up to 1.75 percent share through the end of 2008) and very modest share of the estimated European market (250 million subs) and Asian market (1 billion subs)," she wrote.

The analyst on Thursday raised her revenue and earnings-per-share (EPS) estimates slightly for Apple's 2007 fiscal year, from revenue of $24.4 billion to $27.3 billion and EPS from $2.84 to $2.85.* For fiscal 2008, she raised her revenue estimate from $27.4 billion to $29.4 billion and EPS from $3.18 to $3.47.

Ebeling also raised her price target on shares of Apple from $93 to $100.
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The analyst on Thursday raised her revenue and earnings-per-share (EPS) estimates slightly for Apple's 2007 fiscal year, from revenue of $27.3 billion to $24.4 billion and EPS from $2.84 to $2.85.* For fiscal 2008, she raised her revenue estimate from $27.4 billion to $29.4 billion and EPS from $3.18 to $3.47.

Typo? :P

And I'd like to know where Cingular operates in the EU... I don't have Cingular in the UK unless the are undercover as another network :o

-tj
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I feel for the guys working the stores/kiosks who get to hear 5.5 months of "is it here yet?" while probably loosing half of their real volume to people who want that phone and will wait to do the upgrade/contract renewal.
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LOL, considering how little information is available even to ardent fanboys, I'm sure Cingular retail employees are VERY well-informed!
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LOL, considering how little information is available even to ardent fanboys, I'm sure Cingular retail employees are VERY well-informed!

I was actually serious: having worked in a cell phone retail situation, I can tell you that the pressure to hit your goals is emence.

I garentee when the release datte of June was announced, the sales force lost heart: they are paid by commission: move a Razor in stead of a craptastic free phone, get $x, sell a data/SMS plan, get more...
but now, the ones that would be willing to buy a Razor, BlackJack, Treo or any other phone that could make a NICE addition ot the paycheck will hold off for 5 months..

These are not small commissions...on a standard color flipphone with an 800 min/$59.99 plan (the most popular) and a text bundle that runs $5/Mo, I could have made ~$40 in spiffs in addition to a genourous ~5% commision on the RETAIL PRICE (not the contract price) of the handset and accessories: all of this in addition to the $6/Hr that was the "base". if you were really really great, you could make ~$60/hr...but if there were no customers for 4-5 months...you would be HOSED.

but when these puppies hit...if you are a fast typist and can key account numbers and ESNs fast, then you will be in the money...smartphones could net like $100 per unit in spiffs and commissions sooo...if you could do one every 10 minutes...$600/hr if you have the foot traffic to support the speed.
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Why I would go for a new iPod over an iPhone for a while:
(1) If I were going to spring 600 bucks on a "convergence" device, I would want something that would actually replace my ipod - all 23 gigs of my music/photos/video podcasts. I mean, it is widescreen with brilliant video - but only 8 Gigs? Perhaps as a nano replacement it works...But it is no full ipod replacement with only 8 Gigs of memory...
(2)Apple tends to wildly exaggerate battery life, so if they say 5 hours -I take it with a grain of salt and wonder - what if it is something miserable, like 2 in real world conditions? Without a user-replaceable battery, it has to have some good battery life unless you want to be saddled with a charger at home, work, car, etc...
(3) If I so much as glance at my ipod screen, it scratches - hopefully it is more smudge-scratch proof than it seems...

Finally, the software is closed - so you have to wait for Apple to release a "widget" that you could really use but Apple hasn't released it yet.
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I called the AppleStore near me before the Keynote ended yesterday, and the business sales guy sounded surprised that the iPhone had even been announced.

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post #8 of 83
ok first i dont think they intended to replace the ipod completely, and if they did they never mentioned which version, i think they went with the nano to replace

2. i think battery life may not be too long but theres still time for this to change by the time the phone is released

3. jobs said they have tested many many version of different glasses for the phone and have come with one that is scratch resistant and resistant to lots of fingerprints

and finally..you are wrong nothing is closed yet, people are starting rumors such as TUAW who spoke to a fricken security guard who probably had no idea what he was talking about, all i know is when people actually asked APPLE themselves, apple said "NO COMMENT"...im going to assume software will be in the works before release date, its a simple feature for windows mobile why not be so for mac..theyre smart too
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Why I would go for a new iPod over an iPhone for a while:
(1) If I were going to spring 600 bucks on a "convergence" device, I would want something that would actually replace my ipod - all 23 gigs of my music/photos/video podcasts. I mean, it is widescreen with brilliant video - but only 8 Gigs? Perhaps as a nano replacement it works...But it is no full ipod replacement with only 8 Gigs of memory...
(2)Apple tends to wildly exaggerate battery life, so if they say 5 hours -I take it with a grain of salt and wonder - what if it is something miserable, like 2 in real world conditions? Without a user-replaceable battery, it has to have some good battery life unless you want to be saddled with a charger at home, work, car, etc...
(3) If I so much as glance at my ipod screen, it scratches - hopefully it is more smudge-scratch proof than it seems...

Finally, the software is closed - so you have to wait for Apple to release a "widget" that you could really use but Apple hasn't released it yet.

1) You are in a nitch market, and that's why the iPod satisfies your need. There's a saying, you can't have your cake and eat it too. I've got over 40 Gigs of music... you know what mp3 player I have? The nano 2GB, because I dont have to archive albums on my iPod. in this day in age, for the target market, 8 gigs is PLENTY

I'm loving all the little nit picks that people find to rip on the iPhone (mostly people who don't use Macs and CNET editors who love to speculate). The fact that people are ripping on price, and they don't remember when phones like the Treo first came out, and how much they cost..

my only compaint, it's exclusive to cingular...
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ok first i dont think they intended to replace the ipod completely, and if they did they never mentioned which version, i think they went with the nano to replace

2. i think battery life may not be too long but theres still time for this to change by the time the phone is released

3. jobs said they have tested many many version of different glasses for the phone and have come with one that is scratch resistant and resistant to lots of fingerprints

and finally..you are wrong nothing is closed yet, people are starting rumors such as TUAW who spoke to a fricken security guard who probably had no idea what he was talking about, all i know is when people actually asked APPLE themselves, apple said "NO COMMENT"...im going to assume software will be in the works before release date, its a simple feature for windows mobile why not be so for mac..theyre smart too

You are so wrong on point #3. Why don't you look at:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2...ons-227575.php

It is the same screen as the regular iPod with a touch sensor laid over it.
Also, do your homework before you tell me I am wrong about the closed OS -both that same interview, and Steve Jobs' Newsweek interview (today) confirmed that it will be closed. And if you think you can significant;y improve battery life with new technology in a couple of months, you need to get an education...
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My concern is over battery life. Some of you have mentioned that 4GGB/8GB on the iPhone was necessitated by the need to use the less power-hungry flash drives as in the Nano.

But the new Nanos with the flash drive give me 20+ hours of battery life.

I supposedly get 5 hours of video time (or 12+ hours of audio time) on my 60GB iPod with video (Apple's claim; actual life is a bit less).

So, the question is, why am I getting only the equivalent of my spinning HD-based battery life on a flash-based product? Is it perhaps that Apple is finally being honest on this issue? What else is sucking up all the extra battery life on the iPhone?
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(2)Apple tends to wildly exaggerate battery life, so if they say 5 hours -I take it with a grain of salt and wonder - what if it is something miserable, like 2 in real world conditions? Without a user-replaceable battery, it has to have some good battery life unless you want to be saddled with a charger at home, work, car, etc...


In my experience apple's battery claims, on iPods especially, are pretty dang accurate. Walter Mossberg does a strenuous batter ytest on every iPod he's ever reviewed, and they always last exactly what apple said they would, and sometimes a little longer.

That said, I imagine one of the very first accessories you'll see for the iPhone is a battery pack.
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I can say that our Apple Store has been getting a good amount of calls about the iPhone as well. There's enthusiasm out there, that's for sure...
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You are so wrong on point #3. Why don't you look at:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2...ons-227575.php

It is the same screen as the regular iPod with a touch sensor laid over it.
Also, do your homework before you tell me I am wrong about the closed OS -both that same interview, and Steve Jobs' Newsweek interview (today) confirmed that it will be closed. And if you think you can significant;y improve battery life with new technology in a couple of months, you need to get an education...

ok first of all were both wrong..i guess os x is a closed app phone...but you are also wrong on the glass, watch the keynote where he introduces the phone, he even said it himself that he went through many types of glass that wont be scratched easily or fingerprinted much....this im 100% sure i heard
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You are so wrong on point #3. Why don't you look at:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2...ons-227575.php

It is the same screen as the regular iPod with a touch sensor laid over it.

OK, so it is the same material but with some other material on top of it. For scratch and fingerprint resistance, the important part is the surface, not the substrate. Impact resistance depends more on the substrate and polycarbonate is probably the best choice.
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Actually, that is inaccurate.

This screen is new to any iPod. it has a higher resolution at 160 PPI so that makes it unique. Add to that a glass platten layer and overlay for the touch electronics and we have a different beast that cannot be compared to previous models.

Stebe does explicitly state they tested a variety of screens, but that could be all RDF hype.

Bottom line, we do not know. its a new screen and not enough peopel have had a chance to examine it up close.

Please be accurate in your statements. While it will probably smudge and scratch SOME, I would expect some of the previous mistakes have been ironed out. Even with Steve's arrogance, Apple rarely makes the same mistake twice.
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You are so wrong on point #3. Why don't you look at:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2...ons-227575.php

It is the same screen as the regular iPod with a touch sensor laid over it.
Also, do your homework before you tell me I am wrong about the closed OS -both that same interview, and Steve Jobs' Newsweek interview (today) confirmed that it will be closed. And if you think you can significant;y improve battery life with new technology in a couple of months, you need to get an education...
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What else is sucking up all the extra battery life on the iPhone?

The radio hardware. The bigger screen - especially the backlight. The graphics & processor may be more powerful too.
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I can't believe that Cingular will sell 10 million of these when there customers are almost 60 million. Does NOT compute. $500-600 phone in the land of nokia 6010?
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I can't believe that Cingular will sell 10 million of these when there customers are almost 60 million. Does NOT compute. $500-600 phone in the land of nokia 6010?


I believe 10 million worldwide in 2008 what they're shooting for, which will of course include other cell phone companies.
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I can't believe that Cingular will sell 10 million of these when there customers are almost 60 million. Does NOT compute. $500-600 phone in the land of nokia 6010?

Apple's 10 million unit sales target for the iPhone is for Apple's FY08, worldwide - which includes sales in Europe and Asia, not just Cingular/U.S. sales. (And note that's for fiscal year '08, not calendar year, so the meter starts running this coming October 1.)
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So whats the pricing for you guys in the US. I saw something like $400 for the phone and thats on a 2 year contract. Do youhave monthly bills on top of this?

I just want to get an idea of the price. Over here in the UK everyone is saying 250 for the 4GB and £350 for the 8gb one.
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$599 for 8gb model and $499 for 4gb model with 2 year contract
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Why I would go for a new iPod over an iPhone for a while:
(1) If I were going to spring 600 bucks on a "convergence" device, I would want something that would actually replace my ipod - all 23 gigs of my music/photos/video podcasts. I mean, it is widescreen with brilliant video - but only 8 Gigs? Perhaps as a nano replacement it works...But it is no full ipod replacement with only 8 Gigs of memory...

Well, maybe I'm not the average user, but I prefer to store my MP3 collection on a RAID 5 server myself. Having had 6 hard drives die on me over a 10 year period, I don't trust a collection of music I've spent 7 years building to any single hard drive -- especially a portable one. That's like leaving a collection of vinyl records in a glass house and hoping the sun doesn't shine for too long on it.

So 8 gigs is plenty for me on a portable listening device.
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(2)Apple tends to wildly exaggerate battery life, so if they say 5 hours -I take it with a grain of salt and wonder - what if it is something miserable, like 2 in real world conditions? Without a user-replaceable battery, it has to have some good battery life unless you want to be saddled with a charger at home, work, car, etc...

Admittedly, I'm not an avid cell phone user, but I'm sure that there'll be enough charge in one battery to last at least a day under heavy use. I dunno about you, but I can't always listen to music at my job. I actually need to speak with people and go to meetings occasionally. At which time I won't be using the device. I also prefer to read and send email at a real computer with a decent sized monitor. So I'd estimate heavy use to be about 6-8 hours of continuous usage (being on the phone, listening to music, or internet usage when you're not at a real computer). I'm sure the battery will be able to do that at the very least. This isn't a laptop computer after all.
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(3) If I so much as glance at my ipod screen, it scratches - hopefully it is more smudge-scratch proof than it seems...

If you're so averse to scratches, buy a protective case for it. I'm sure there'll be plenty of them when this device hits the market. I personally view a few scuffs and scratches to be the normal wear and tear of ownership, but I can understand the need to keep things in "mint condition" some people have.
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Finally, the software is closed - so you have to wait for Apple to release a "widget" that you could really use but Apple hasn't released it yet.

If it's based on Mac OS, then I'm sure that Apple will be happy to provide developer tools for it once it's released. After all, the more cool applications/widgets/etc which are developed for the phone, the more phones they'll sell. I can't see why they'd keep it as a closed development environment after it's been released to the public.

Unless you're expecting them to open source the OS itself -- but I'm not sure why you'd need that unless you're planning to develop your own device based on it.
 
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wow very nicely put, i agree with everything you have said auxio, except that last part, i guess Job's said it will be closed app on newsweek, but he did say that widgets will become the future of apps and most things should be created on widgets, and he also said that if third parties did want to create products, they would have to go through apple and have permission along with a Q&A time about the software...at least everything will be clean and not buggy on the phone, my Dash has a lot of things i put on myself and the phone now works half the time..kind of sucks
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(1) If I were going to spring 600 bucks on a "convergence" device, I would want something that would actually replace my ipod - all 23 gigs of my music/photos/video podcasts. I mean, it is widescreen with brilliant video - but only 8 Gigs? Perhaps as a nano replacement it works...But it is no full ipod replacement with only 8 Gigs of memory...

It's not meant to replace ANY iPod. Do you really expect people to strap an iPhone to their arm when they're working out? It's a replacement for crappy smartphones. That's it! NOt everyone wants or needs an iPhone just as not everyone wants or needs an iPod video. If you look at Apple's marketing and release history, the next major change to the iPod Video will be a full size, touch screen with a 100GB HDD.

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(2)Apple tends to wildly exaggerate battery life, so if they say 5 hours -I take it with a grain of salt and wonder - what if it is something miserable, like 2 in real world conditions? Without a user-replaceable battery, it has to have some good battery life unless you want to be saddled with a charger at home, work, car, etc...

THe weren't very accurate several years prior but now they are pretty dead on balls with multiple reports that the battery exceeded Apple's claims.

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(3) If I so much as glance at my ipod screen, it scratches - hopefully it is more smudge-scratch proof than it seems...

Nope. It's the same polycarbonate screen with a touch sensitive film applied. I guess you shouldn't "glance" at it. Nice hyperbole, there! The trick is to either not care or actaully take care of your stuff.

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Finally, the software is closed - so you have to wait for Apple to release a "widget" that you could really use but Apple hasn't released it yet.

There is always a chance someone will hack the OS, but there are several reasons why Apple has a closed platform. It's a lvoe hate thing, but overall, it keeps the phone is working solidly. Poorly made 3rd-party apps is the leading cause of system errors. Apple could also sell widgets on the iTS or they may be working on a development kit. The current Xocde won't work. remember, the Phone doesn't have a PPC or Intel processor.
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i thought it might be running PPC...they just didnt know yet...nothing has really been official about the chip in the phone, im gonna hope its something ppc ARM or intel, even tho intel said they have no idea about it haha
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It's not meant to replace ANY iPod.

I think that, to some degree it is. It's biggest market will probably be the customer that justifies it has the best iPod - and one that includes a phone, so it is easier to justify buying. If you were giong to buy a new iPod, replacing a 1 or 2 gen iPod what would you be looking at? All of a sudden you're looking at one more iPod - this one with a phone included as well as being the most beautiful iPod made.

To make it easier to decide I would not be surprised to see Apple releasing an iPod that is basically the iPhone without the phone. It will generate more profits for Apple (especially through economies of scale) and blow the market apart - yet again.
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I think that, to some degree it is. It's biggest market will probably be the customer that justifies it has the best iPod - and one that includes a phone, so it is easier to justify buying. If you were giong to buy a new iPod, replacing a 1 or 2 gen iPod what would you be looking at? All of a sudden you're looking at one more iPod - this one with a phone included as well as being the most beautiful iPod made.

Every new iPod model has altered the sales of the other iPod models when it's introduced. So why do they do it? Obviously, it opens their product up to s larger range of potential customers. The iPhone WILL NOT replace the iPod Video for those that:

a) prefer their non-Cingular call carrier
b) do not need a handheld internet device
c) do not want an al-in-one device
d) prefer more than >30GB of storage.
e) (to a lesser degree) prefer the textile feeling of a clickwheel for eyes-free operation.


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To make it easier to decide I would not be surprised to see Apple releasing an iPod that is basically the iPhone without the phone.

That too is obvious. It's the next thing to do. I imaginethey will use OS X Leopard, like in the iPhone, to utilize Core Animation. Other features will all depend on if they can increase the battery life, capacity and/or hardware features (e.g.:wi-fi) without also signifiicantly increasing the weigh, size and/or cost. There is no way for us to know the logistics of the problems they face. I'm still awed by how much stuff they jammed into the iPhone.
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I can't believe that Cingular will sell 10 million of these when there customers are almost 60 million. Does NOT compute. $500-600 phone in the land of nokia 6010?

Uhhh..how about NEW subscribers? Duh.

I'm not a cingular subscriber but I'm tearing up my T-mobile contract the day the iPhone comes out. How to afford the cancelation fees? Just buy AAPL stock now, should easily cover it in six-months. 8)
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haha me too....and A LOT of people will be doing the same thing...ill be in line for the iphone WHILE im cancelling my tmobile plan and porting my number..gonna be a great day
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Me three. I like T-Mobile and have had horrible experiences with CIngular's customer service, but I will be switching to Cingular posthaste when the iPhonr is available.
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Me three. I like T-Mobile and have had horrible experiences with CIngular's customer service, but I will be switching to Cingular posthaste when the iPhonr is available.

haha its not that bad..at least here in southern california, well all i can say is i have tmobile but have no idea about tmobiles service, i do know their support sucks, but i dont live near any tmobile towers, only cingular, so my phone always says cingular...never had a dropped called never had a problem for 9 months, im happy with it
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You are so wrong on point #3. Why don't you look at:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2...ons-227575.php

It is the same screen as the regular iPod with a touch sensor laid over it.
Also, do your homework before you tell me I am wrong about the closed OS -both that same interview, and Steve Jobs' Newsweek interview (today) confirmed that it will be closed. And if you think you can significant;y improve battery life with new technology in a couple of months, you need to get an education...

WHat do you mean by closed?

that doesnt mean that there will be no third party apps for it -- Windows Mobile is closed, but there are great 3rd party apps, ghell, MS sells an IDE specifically for it...and technically OSX is closed too...

I would bet money that they will put out an SDK/IDE for it at WWDC, which happens to be a little way after the phones release -- thus they can get a ton of feedback on the phone its self without any 2rd party interference...this is key for bug fixes and market research for what to change/add in future iterations.
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Me three. I like T-Mobile and have had horrible experiences with CIngular's customer service, but I will be switching to Cingular posthaste when the iPhonr is available.

Yeah, cingular is not great. But the reason Apple went with them is because they suck so bad --Steve Jobs can strong-arm them to change their entire networks to fit his phone, and they are bending over and doing it else go out of business. Once the money pours into cingular, expect their infrastructure to grow fast. 3G, etc, will come quickly. I have no worries about the new Cingular.

Customer service bad? When SJ hears about it, he will get on his iPhone and straighten Cingular out, fast!
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haha i love your thinking..and i agree...Jobs will spank spank spank till cingular stands tall to be a great carrier

and a_greer, i agree with you too...WWDC will be right after the launch and windows mobile is closed, yet they have some great apps that can be placed on the phone, iphone has mac os x so why not let apple make some awesome apps, they know what to do dont worry theyre user friendly unlike pc..remember?
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WHat do you mean by closed?

that doesnt mean that there will be no third party apps for it -- Windows Mobile is closed, but there are great 3rd party apps, ghell, MS sells an IDE specifically for it...and technically OSX is closed too...

Is Windows Mobile really closed? I knew a couple people that programmed for it using the regular Visual Studio bundle, no secret society, no hazing, nothing special.
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haha i love your thinking..and i agree...Jobs will spank spank spank till cingular stands tall to be a great carrier

Exactly. Many of iPhone's ideas have been around, but the network companys rule the roost, not the phone designers. They have all kinds of stupid beurocracy and business suits preventing good ideas. SJ went to Cingular and said, "You guys suck, and you know it. You have no ideas of your own. No 3G, no media deals, etc. Give me everything I want and we will get an amazing phone, and will make you rich." Like vader and luke.

So..everyone is bad mouthing Cingular right now. Not so..the "new" Cingular w/iPhone will be totally badass, because it will have SJ's blessing and features. Trust me. SJ *had* to take a poor company to get what he wants....so of course were sacrifices like 3G. But we will get there..fast.

Meanwhile all the other pompus phone companys are s-c-r-e-w-e-d.
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Let's not forget that CIngluar has 25% of all US customers.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

So, the question is, why am I getting only the equivalent of my spinning HD-based battery life on a flash-based product? Is it perhaps that Apple is finally being honest on this issue? What else is sucking up all the extra battery life on the iPhone?

Hello? Large touchscreen, advanced computer...? Hello? \

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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Let's not forget that CIngluar has 25% of all US customers.

How long will it take for Apple to buy out and build up it's own network... hmm... oh, Google!

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