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post #41 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:18pm
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[quote]Originally posted by MacAddict:
<strong>Looks like crap. It's what I'd expect an amateur Photoshop junkie to post in one of our mock-up threads.

Too expensive. The specs will likely be impressive (for Apple), but too costly. It will sell well, but it won't boost marketshare.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You are screwed up.
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post #42 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:20pm
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post #43 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:21pm
I first saw it and thought, "yuck that is one ugly imac." But since I've looked at it a third or fourth time its already growing on me. And if you dislike the base, what would you want to see there? I little square thingy? I think it is much more impressive as a half sphere. Also the 26.4 cm diameter is roughly around 10 inches and only about5 inches high is absolutely amazing that they could fit all the insides in. And another thing if the dimensions were in metric, quite possibly or maybe bout 50/50 the price was in Canadian, (what say you Canadian macsters?) If this is true I figured out that *gasp* the high end's price would be about 1299 US! We can only hope but I doubt this
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post #44 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:22pm
Like others, I stopped for a second and said whaaa??

But it wouldn't be a cool design if it wasn't a little shocking.

It sorta looks like a futuristic lamp. But retro at the same time. Retro and futuristic? I think it's because it reminds me of the way the future was always portrayed back in the 1950s.

About that $1800 high-end price:
Try to find a PC with a flat screen and DVD-R. I did it at Dell, the price king, and it came out to $1700 at minimum.

Also, remember what you currently have to pay for a flat screen and SuperDrive from Apple. Over $3000.
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post #45 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:23pm
I can tell you that it will win design awards. The design is spectacular. A person may or may not like it as a computer, but the design is (dare I say it?) elegant. Sophisticated. Futuristic. Revolutionary.

Just because some people have no eye for aesthetics....well, I can't help that.

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post #46 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:24pm
[quote]Originally posted by sawtooth:
<strong>Im starting to understand steves vision of the digital lifestyle/hub now. This is a work of art, it is so soft and approachable, like a piece of furniture. Its like a picture frame floating in the air, when extended forward all you will see is the screen floating in the air!! It will fit in with any home and takes a step forward to the future when we wont think of a computer box in the corner. I cant wait to see what new goodies will orbit this hub! If only the screen detached and the mouse and keyboard were wireless, hey maby they are, aaaaaaa time for bed, leave some surprises for tomorrow <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

sawtooth, that's exactly right. that's the brief that steve gave about making the computer look like a nice piece of furniture rather than an embarrassment that you stick in the corner and try to minimize. this is his approach from what i heard about the briefing of the ad team when they first got the account.
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post #47 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:27pm
Anyone else think the screen looks detachable?

Also, I think it'll need a longer 'arm' in case someone wants the unit on a shelf while the monitor floats in front.
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post #48 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:31pm
I like it. It does what it is supposed to do, or rather it doesn't do what so many other computers can't do: Be un-intimidating.

This thing looks almost natural and organic. And sure, it does look a little like someone could have done a mock-up of it in photoshop. Ives did a sketch of it the day after he and Jobs took the walk through the garden. But, it took them TWO years to get it all in there. Making a mockup is one thing. Making the actual computer is something else altogether.

You'll never see a PC that beautiful. Sure you may find one with a nice blend of black and silver plastic - supposedly "futuristic", but not one that looks like this.
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post #49 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:36pm
whoa..

i still hate you jerks for spoiling it for me (WHY DID I MAKE APPLEINSIDER MY START PAGE!?!?!?!?!?!)

but seriously... when i first saw it, i thought it was much less huggable (and loveable) than the original iMac.

That said, immediately, I saw it fitting onto my crammped desk.... and suddenly I wanted one.

It's as simple as that, I want one.
now.
on my desk
I will
throw
away
anything
to accomodate
the 1/2 cantelope
of apple
goodness
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post #50 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:36pm
There was an internet appliance for email that looked something like this... but the specifics are failing me.

I'm overall dissapointed. Innovative form factor, but no technological innovation. THIS is the "innovation" to take us out of the slump? Real mistake.
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post #51 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:43pm
The prices quoted in the article are in U.S. dollars.

The story almost certainly was not given to TIME Canada. TIME Canada is a "split-run" publication which combines Canadian content with that from its U.S and international counterparts.

Besides, the prices would be too low for Apple it they were in Canadian dollars... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />


Cheers,

Mark.

[ 01-07-2002: Message edited by: Mark ]</p>
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post #52 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:47pm
Sawtooth: exactly! It is furniture. it isn't to be hidden in a den, in a corner or behind some desk with doors. It sits on the kitchen counter, on the side table, etc. I still think it looks like Jetsons furniture even more than the original.
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post #53 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:48pm
I can't believe that this is what they've come up with! That thing does not appeal to me at all. That whole LCD on the arm thing just does not seem the least bit forward thinking.

Disinformation. I won't believe it until I see what Steve announces tomorrow. Hoping against hope.
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post #54 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:49pm
Unfortunately, I'm gonna say it's probably featuring American prices.

Because the 15in flat panel display now is CAN$929. That leaves less than CAN$400, or US$250 for a G4, combo drive, etc.
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post #55 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:52pm
[quote]Originally posted by mattomcmatt:
<strong>There was an internet appliance for email that looked something like this... but the specifics are failing me.

I'm overall dissapointed. no technological innovation. .</strong><hr></blockquote>

C'mon that is about HALF the size of the CUBE!!!
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post #56 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:54pm
--lol!! there is a guy on BBC News24 talking crap about what Apple will release tomorrow, coupled with some horrible stock footage of a guy with a dodgy 90s hair-cut using an old preforma, ohhh lovely zoom to the rainbow logo on the front of this cream cigarette stained performa!!LOL we have come a long way.--

Im really warming to this imac, starting to see it animate and hop around cartoon like. Any one in Europe will have seen the SKY Digital adds where the little cute minidishes hop round the screen.
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post #57 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:57pm
Actually I cant believe all the stuff's inside that.

HARD DRIVE
GRAPHICS
MB + G4
SUPERDRIVE

I bet the HD & SUPERDRIVE take up about half the room, then you have the G4's mammoth Heatsink,

I HOPE THAT THE BASE ISN'T A RELAY FROM ANOTHER UNIT
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post #58 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:58pm
so should we speculate about:
keyboard
mouse
speakers
specs

this is fun stuff folks

ps...this is everything i was hoping for.....small, all in one (thou cube and monitor would have been ok too), G4, superdrive, LCD....great job apple (again....the lovely blueberry iMac DV goes into one of the girls room as soon as apple ships these puppies....) g

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post #59 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:59pm
[quote]Originally posted by sawtooth:
<strong>---

Im really warming to this imac, starting to see it animate and hop around cartoon like. Any one in Europe will have seen the SKY Digital adds where the little cute minidishes hop round the screen. </strong><hr></blockquote>

THATS IT- I knew I had seen it somewhere. I thought it was LUXO, but UR right its those minidishes,, hahaha

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post #60 of 130
1/6/02 at 9:59pm
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post #61 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:01pm
Just for some perspective, I built a current system similar to the probable specs of the top of the line new iMac (867G4/256/60 GB/15" display/SuperDrive/GeForce2MX)

Price: $3,198

Say what you might, but this is quite a price cut for Apple...
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post #62 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:06pm
Somebody seems to have skrewed up.
the date of the time canada page is
a week off (in some places it's monday already)

For the design it looks like that
function has created the form
and it looks beautiful too
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post #63 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:07pm
In regards to space, you know the power supply WILL be external, just like the cube, right? And having an external power supply means that suddenly cooling is less of a problem.

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post #64 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:11pm
Wohoo! Cheers MarkUk I now know Im not going mad, but I do need sleep! Cant you see it, friendly face on the ickle screen as it hops round meeting its new family, aaahhhh! (well Sky might be a bit peeved) God, how much will it cost in the UK? this french sits is quoting 899, 1459 and 1659 (not shure what that is in £ST, 1= £0.67 I think?

<a href="http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html" target="_blank">http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html</a>
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post #65 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:14pm
Absolutely amazing!

I thought they did a wonder with the Cube.

I now think that the Cube was an excercise in design for the eventual iMac 2.

I have no doubts that they keyboard and mouse are new as well.

Bravo Apple. You have done it again.
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post #66 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:20pm
That is soooo much what I would've pictured a computer to be like in 2002 when I was a little kid!

A G4 iMac with a Superdrive, that's exactly the specs I mentioned in a thread asking what future hardware would you buy. I for one never expected it so soon and sure didn't think it'd look like that!

Now, what can I sell to clear up credit card space?

Jeff
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post #67 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:23pm
[quote]Originally posted by sawtooth:
<strong>Wohoo! Cheers MarkUk I now know Im not going mad, but I do need sleep! Cant you see it, friendly face on the ickle screen as it hops round meeting its new family, aaahhhh! (well Sky might be a bit peeved) God, how much will it cost in the UK? this french sits is quoting 899, 1459 and 1659 (not shure what that is in £ST, 1= £0.67 I think?

<a href="http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html" target="_blank">http://www.clginformatique.com/index1.html</a></strong><hr></blockquote>


I think I'd better get some sleep aswell, Its like 6.25AM (I went to bed at 11PM, but got back up at 2.AM) I am bloody tired. Ahh Sleep until 4PM, get up for the keynote. Ahh the joys of unemployment NOT
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post #68 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:25pm
First glance, was like WTF. Now. F-ing awesome!!!

While I'd love to believe that the screen is detachable, I highly doubt it. In the article Steve says he wanted a screen that you could/should reach out and grab and pull towards you. A detachable would complicate that vision.

The lacking details in the article does make it seem like it was a one on one press conference. Maybe there is more to it.
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post #69 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:27pm
[quote]Originally posted by jeffyboy:
<strong>That is soooo much what I would've pictured a computer to be like in 2002 when I was a little kid!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Now we need Apple to design us a flying car.
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post #70 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:29pm
My foot is firmly planted in my mouth.

Dunno who it was that called me a moron for thinking it *wouldn't* look like this . . .

But it does.

and I think it looks pretty freakin weird . . . possibly ugly.

But I'll reserve final judgement until I see it in person - or tomorrow.
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post #71 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:29pm
Like some others, my first reaction was "bleh".

But then it did grow on me - the connection to the Pixar lamp is clearly there. It does look almost alive, playful - "cheeky" as the Brits say. The panel seems to almost float in the air.

A most salient comment from Steve that has been overlooked:

"Why stand a computer on its side when it really wants to be horizontal and on the ground?"

Is this a hint of the new PM designs?
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post #72 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:35pm
wow!!! That is beautiful! And functional! G4 also?...I love it...If that really is the new iMac, then my order gets placed tomorrow! Great job Apple!


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post #73 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:36pm
offtopic but, Mark, Im unemployed too. Well voluntarily, got sick of gimping for "e-learning" chimp slave drivers, so I quit, moving me and my powerbook to OZ. Chose Life! If I was working I wouldnt be here either. God how much will imac2 cost there, eeek! Its been fun and I look forward to the real thing! Night folks!
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post #74 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:38pm
I don't know what to think from the picture, but I doubt they've surpassed my Cube. I think a computer should look beautiful but I like it a little bit computerish looking, too. This looks less like a computer than even the Cube. There are furniture stores for the rich and artsy in Atlanta that sell this kind of look. I'm sure Elton John will want to have one. This would fit in any million dollar apartment.
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post #75 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:42pm
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post #76 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:43pm
Half-spheres (or spheres in general) do not make good design elements. They are too rotund. I would have much prefered a more low-profile base. Personally I think the cycloid [x = a(t - sin(t)), y = a(1 - cos(t)] is a very nice shape although it may be a bit difficult to manufacture.
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post #77 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:44pm
continuing on thegelding's post

what about ports like USB and FW? are they on the back that we can't see?
Keyboard and mouse? are they wireless or even better, as the startrek to apple's slogan threads say, voice controlled imac making the keyboard and mouse non-existant?
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post #78 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:47pm
[quote]Originally posted by Lucky:
<strong>Half-spheres (or spheres in general) do not make good design elements. They are too rotund. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Ooooooohhhhhhkaaaaaaaaaaaay.....

Admittedly, my sensibility is not with the more curvy stuff either. But when people do it well, it's nice to see. simple geometry certainly has great merit and appeal. Besides, I'm not sure it's a true spherical section.
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post #79 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:52pm
Steve has plenty to show. It's a given that the keyboard and mouse will be new because the current ones don't match (claer plastic and black?)

That beind said, A NEW KEYBOARD AND MOUSE WONT MATCH THE CURRENT G4S!!!!

AHhahaahha, does that maybe mean new towers? RailHeadDesign said new displays to match new iMac and towers. We've seen the iMac and they towers use the same mouse and keyboard. It's very easy to assume NEW TOWER CASES! and since the iMac got a G4.....see where Im goin
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post #80 of 130
1/6/02 at 10:55pm
Has it dawned on anyone else we're discussing actual, real, existing FUTURE hardware?

This has been the coolest pre-show buildup ever!

Jeff

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