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post #41 of 71
1/30/07 at 2:36pm
Those MBP requirements don't exclude ANy of the previous models. Does that mean my 1.83 Ghz model (the first model) is good?
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post #42 of 71
1/30/07 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

Stop promulgating this nonsense. This has already been shown to be untrue.

Read the articles in the WSJ and the NYTimes that came out weeks ago. The tax authorities have already debunked this claptrap.

Why don't you read this article on CNET, with more detail than I've seen anywhere else?

http://news.com.com/2100-1044_3-6151...-0-5&subj=news

The actually asked accounting experts (there's a concept!). While Apple didn't have to charge a fee, it is the best of the three possibilities. The other two: sell it as a standalone app so that you establish a market price, or give it away and don't book any revenues until it's enabled (meaning the total revenues for Apple computers in the past quarter would be only from selling the 17" iMacs that don't have 'n' capability).

Get over it, already.

How many people who bought the 1.6 million Macs sold last quarter are going to buy a 3rd party 'n' router (so they would need to pay for the enabler)? Maybe 10%? That's $320,000, which won't even cover half the legal fees Apple has to pay to the bloggers they sued. It's not a moneymaker.
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post #43 of 71
1/30/07 at 2:43pm
Ok, not being a Mac expert (newbie), I have installed the update on my M2D iMac.

I also own a MB CD. Will I be able to upgrade my MB with new hardware to accept the N stuff, or will I need to get a new MB with a C2D?

I do realize that I'll also need a new router. No problem with that!
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post #44 of 71
1/30/07 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by elroth View Post

Why don't you read this article on CNET, with more detail than I've seen anywhere else?

http://news.com.com/2100-1044_3-6151...-0-5&subj=news

The actually asked accounting experts (there's a concept!). While Apple didn't have to charge a fee, it is the best of the three possibilities. The other two: sell it as a standalone app so that you establish a market price, or give it away and don't book any revenues until it's enabled (meaning the total revenues for Apple computers in the past quarter would be only from selling the 17" iMacs that don't have 'n' capability).

Get over it, already.

How many people who bought the 1.6 million Macs sold last quarter are going to buy a 3rd party 'n' router (so they would need to pay for the enabler)? Maybe 10%? That's $320,000, which won't even cover half the legal fees Apple has to pay to the bloggers they sued. It's not a moneymaker.

The article says what I'm saying.

I'll get over it when everyone stops talking about it.
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post #45 of 71
1/30/07 at 2:50pm
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Originally Posted by O4BlackWRX View Post

So some laptops already have it enabled? This is BS. I purchased a 15" MacBook Pro 2.33Ghz a week ago today and it didn't have it enabled, so this begs the question which ones were already enabled?

Look at your statement.

I wouldn't have commented except for the derogitory 'BS' that you just had to add.

Your first 2 sentences is BS.

Read the article again. There is no mention that, "…some laptops already have it enabled.
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post #46 of 71
1/30/07 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

I never said that Apple was screwing their customers. But, they are being disingenuous in their explanation.

Ok, so what is being disingenuous about saying, we are choosing the most cost effective solution to sell our products, offer our customers additional features, and not tank the stock price - and oh, by the way, we followed the laws that govern these choices?

Apple's loyalty is first to its share holders and then to its customers. This business savy solution is not going to scare away many customers and it is going to keep more people buying their stock.

You and your kind really need to stop whining, as I said in my original post.
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post #47 of 71
1/30/07 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

The article says what I'm saying.

I'll get over it when everyone stops talking about it.

Your arguements are getting thin little man and every reasonable arguement you proposed has been shot down.

We all know now that there were choices setup and restricted by GAAP and Sarbanes-Oxley. And yes, it ultimately was a financial and monetary decision that Apple made, but did you really expect anything different? They chose the one with the least financial impact to the company. This is the sign of a responsible corporate entity. They are a company - one that intends on staying in business, brining its customers advanced products and one that stays within the laws of our country (or atleast trying).

STFD.
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post #48 of 71
1/30/07 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

Look at your statement.

I wouldn't have commented except for the derogitory 'BS' that you just had to add.

Your first 2 sentences is BS.

Read the article again. There is no mention that, "…some laptops already have it enabled.

OK so if you're right then only the iMac's & Mac Pro's have it enabled, Prove It!

When you can show proof without a doubt that 0 laptops had it installed already let me know. Then I will apologize for my comments, until then the article says Mac and the last I checked a MacBook Pro was a Mac...
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post #49 of 71
1/30/07 at 5:20pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

The article says what I'm saying.

I'll get over it when everyone stops talking about it.

priceless! Where exactly are those goalposts now???
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post #50 of 71
1/30/07 at 5:33pm
I wonder how many suckers will pay Apple for a friggin driver!

I believe that Apple could sling dung on some people and those people would swear it was Apple pie instead of dung as they beg for more "pie" goodies from father Apple.

Sorry Apple but this is wrong and you should be ashamed for creating that BS excuse.
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post #51 of 71
1/30/07 at 10:35pm
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Originally Posted by mmmdoughnuts View Post

Ok, so what is being disingenuous about saying, we are choosing the most cost effective solution to sell our products, offer our customers additional features, and not tank the stock price - and oh, by the way, we followed the laws that govern these choices?

Apple's loyalty is first to its share holders and then to its customers. This business savy solution is not going to scare away many customers and it is going to keep more people buying their stock.

You and your kind really need to stop whining, as I said in my original post.

That wasn't what they said. If they said that, the controversy would not have occurred. They had said that accounting rules require us to charge this fee, which they do not.

As I'm a stockholder with a fair amount of money tied up in Apple, I appreciate their attempt to do the best for the company.

Look, I was one of the first here to defend them. But, I prefer they just explained what they were doing.

I'm certain their statement was vetted by their lawyers to be accurate. But, in doing so, they also made it sound as though there would be a penaltymeaning that they would not have obeyed the law, if they didn't charge this fee.

We are arguing at cross purposes here.

I understand what Apple is doing. What I'm not happy about is that they attempted to make it sound as though they were forced into it for reasons other than the ones that prevailed.
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post #52 of 71
1/30/07 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by Hiro View Post

priceless! Where exactly are those goalposts now???

It hasn't changed. You haven't been careful in reading what I've been saying here all along.
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post #53 of 71
1/30/07 at 10:42pm
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Originally Posted by mmmdoughnuts View Post

Your arguements are getting thin little man and every reasonable arguement you proposed has been shot down.

We all know now that there were choices setup and restricted by GAAP and Sarbanes-Oxley. And yes, it ultimately was a financial and monetary decision that Apple made, but did you really expect anything different? They chose the one with the least financial impact to the company. This is the sign of a responsible corporate entity. They are a company - one that intends on staying in business, brining its customers advanced products and one that stays within the laws of our country (or atleast trying).

STFD.

You can stop with the derogatory remarks. They don't make your statements any more worthy.

I'll say it again.

I have nothing against what Apple is doing.

I don't like how they stated it.

If you want to argue with someone who will disagree with what they are doing, argue with Mkane, for example, not me.
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post #54 of 71
1/30/07 at 11:30pm
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Originally Posted by irasiegel View Post

I've downloaded the Airport Extreme 802.11n Enabler and then tried to install it. I get this message:

"You cannot install Airport Extreme 802.11n Enabler on this volume. This volume does not meet the requirements for this update."

This is my computer:
Machine NametMac
Machine ModeltMacBookPro2,1
Processor NametIntel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speedt2.33 GHz
Number Of Processorst1
Total Number Of Corest2
L2 Cache (per processor)t4 MB
Memoryt2 GB
Bus Speedt667 MHz
Boot ROM VersiontMBP21.00A5.B01
SMC Versiont1.14f5

Any help?

Yes, I got this too. Run Software Update and there should be an Airport uodate.

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Machine NametMac
Machine ModeltMacBookPro2,2
Processor NametIntel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speedt2.33 GHz
Number Of Processorst1
Total Number Of Corest2
L2 Cache (per processor)t4 MB
Memoryt3 GB
Bus Speedt667 MHz
Boot ROM VersiontMBP22.00A5.B00
SMC Versiont1.12f5
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post #55 of 71
1/30/07 at 11:33pm
Good one Apple. I think they should sell all the files in OS X separately, they could make far more that way. Why, I have thousands in /System alone!
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post #56 of 71
1/30/07 at 11:34pm
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Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post

Having the enabler installed, does not mean that it is enabled.

Yes it does. read above. They give a way to tell if its installed and the way to tell is if the Network utility shows your network adapter as an 802.11 with an "n" in the list.
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post #57 of 71
1/30/07 at 11:57pm
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Originally Posted by irasiegel View Post

Thanks, Vinney. Installing this:

AirPort Extreme Update 2007-001
This update is recommended for all Intel-based Macintosh computers and provides compatibility with AirPort Extreme base stations and networks.
01/25/2007

before installing the enabler did the trick.

Yes excellent. This was an important Airport update that came out a few days ago. Related to AirportExtreme Base Stations and Airport Extreme cards (802.11n or g) in Intel Macs.
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post #58 of 71
1/31/07 at 12:02am
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Originally Posted by O4BlackWRX View Post

Seriously read the whole article (or even the sniplet I took in the last post). It clearly states that you should check to see if it's installed and to do that go to your network utility and see if it says 802.11a/b/g/n and if so then you do not need to purchase it for $2. Just actually read before commenting, novel idea I know but at least humor me, please....

Oooooh, I have 802.11a ...!! whoop dee doo.... 5ghz operation !! @ 54mbit/sec though. No 802.11N because this is MacBook Core[1]Duo. In any case I am running of a 802.11B router. Mmmm.... low speeed........ Wireless connectivity is awesome on the MacBook though, in terms of range.

Sorry to hear about MacPro/ iMac wireless problems. I did not know about this previously.
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post #59 of 71
1/31/07 at 12:06am
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Originally Posted by lanky_nathan View Post

Much more important that all this accounting nitpickery, methinks, is which non-Airport pre-N routers will our machines work properly with? :-) Off to do some hunting ...

Virtually everthing built up to this stage, AFAIK. IEEE 802.11n Draft 1.0 something like that. The Airport Card in the Macs which support 802.11N should be able to connect to any pre-N router running @ 2.4ghz 802.11n ONLY, 5ghz 802.11n ONLY, or 2.4ghz 802.11n/g or 2.4ghz 802.11n/g/b or 5ghz 802.11a.
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post #60 of 71
1/31/07 at 12:10am
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Originally Posted by DeaPeaJay View Post

Those MBP requirements don't exclude ANy of the previous models. Does that mean my 1.83 Ghz model (the first model) is good?

Use SpotLight or Go to Applications > Utilities and open Network Utility. There will be a list of ports, one will be your Airport. It will tell you 8). My MacBook Core[1]Duo 2ghz shows 802.11a/b/g. I got "a" (!) but no "n"
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post #61 of 71
1/31/07 at 12:17am
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Originally Posted by ecking View Post

Hopefully for us they'll find a way to release a new airport card, like they used to in the ppc days, I don't know how possible that is with the current design internally though...

Here it is in the MacBook:



This looks suspiciously very similar to the format of Intel branded 802.11n "Centrino" cards:
The three white "blobs" at the top of the card are connectors for the three antennas (MIMO here has 3 radios)



Apparently this is the "Mini PCIe Card" form factor...
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post #62 of 71
1/31/07 at 12:26am
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Originally Posted by iMick View Post

Ok, not being a Mac expert (newbie), I have installed the update on my M2D iMac.

I also own a MB CD. Will I be able to upgrade my MB with new hardware to accept the N stuff, or will I need to get a new MB with a C2D?

I do realize that I'll also need a new router. No problem with that!

Cool. Run Applications > Utilities > Network Utility and choose in the list of ports, find the Airport. My MacBook Core1Duo shows 802.11a/b/g but not 802.11n. So if you *really want* you can get a new MacBook with Core2Duo
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post #63 of 71
1/31/07 at 8:33am
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

It hasn't changed. You haven't been careful in reading what I've been saying here all along.

If we have to be careful reading, your wording isn't. A fine way to have it both ways.

But at least you did clarify yourself in your most recent post, finally. I think we can all live with that.
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post #64 of 71
1/31/07 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by Hiro View Post

If we have to be careful reading, your wording isn't. A fine way to have it both ways.

But at least you did clarify yourself in your most recent post, finally. I think we can all live with that.

I try to be clear, but apparently, it doesn't always work for some. Asking for clarification would be fine with me, if it would help.

It's why I get into arguments with some people. They don't understand what I'm saying .As I try to explain in more detail, they say I'm changing my position, which I'm not, unless I say that they have persuaded me, which does happen.
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post #65 of 71
1/31/07 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by iMick View Post

Ok, not being a Mac expert (newbie), I have installed the update on my M2D iMac.

I also own a MB CD. Will I be able to upgrade my MB with new hardware to accept the N stuff, or will I need to get a new MB with a C2D?

I do realize that I'll also need a new router. No problem with that!

You don't necessarily *need* to upgrade your CD MB at all. It is possible for 802.11g nodes to co-exist in an 802.11n network.

That being said, the disclaimers all say that there will be "reduced speed and range" as soon as 1 802.11g node joins an 802.11n network.

Does that mean that *everyone else* on the network wil be forced to throttle down to 802.11g speeds to suit the needs of that one node? Or does it just mean that the one 802.11g node won't be able to play as quickly as its 802.11n playmates? Or something in the middle...?
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post #66 of 71
1/31/07 at 11:38am
If you are planning on getting the new Airport Extreme base station the patch is included. IF you plan on getting another brand then you pay the $2 - or you get a copy from a friend. I have a feeling that there will be a lot of $2 fixes that are shared and I doubt if Apple will be to worried about that sharing. Otherwise be happy with what you bought.
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post #67 of 71
2/1/07 at 12:40am
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I upgraded my Belkin pre-n router to the latest firmware, and did the 802.11n upgrade to my c2d macbook pro - but I am still at 54 mbps in the network utility. If anybody gets theirs working at a higher speed please let me know how to do it...
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post #68 of 71
5/11/08 at 1:40am
Sorry for bringing up an 18 month old thread.... but i'm having problems installing the 802.11n enabler on my imac. I can install it to the point where it asks you where to install the file, but both HD's that i have show a red stop-sign and an exclamation mark and saying "You cannot install AirPort Extreme 802.11n Enabler on this volume. This volume does not meet the requirements for this update."

I tried to google some and read a bit here and there and that one possible solution was to install the "AirPort Extreme Update 2007-002". I have installed all the SW updates from the SW pulldown menu and even tried to install the "AirPort Extreme Update 2007-002" but it showed again red stop-sign with an exclamation mark.....

Would anybody have an idea where i have gone wrong? or what the problem might be?

Really appreciate any help!
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post #69 of 71
5/11/08 at 1:53am
The enabler has already been installed via the airport 5.3.1 software as it is part of it and apple has said so. I found out by accident.
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post #70 of 71
5/11/08 at 3:54am
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Originally Posted by rob05au View Post

The enabler has already been installed via the airport 5.3.1 software as it is part of it and apple has said so. I found out by accident.

Thanks, noticed that too now\ Oh heck, i wonder why they then sell this SW? And how have i missed it being already installed

Thanks Rob!
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post #71 of 71
5/11/08 at 4:01am
I am pretty sure it only works under tiger since the airport update for leopard.
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