Originally Posted by Louzer
Originally Posted by rongold
I suppose people can expect to learn shortly if the FCC approved Apple's design of the iPhone (AND possibly learn of additional hardware details); its probably been at least 2 and a half months sense they submitted the iPhone for approval. Possibly longer.
If Apple is already ordering delivery of components from suppliers, it is reasonable tUm, how does anyone know WHEN they've submitted the phone for approval. Just because Jobs says "it takes a couple of months to get approval" doesn't mean they submitted it until, well, ever.
Then again, to think that the holdup on this thing is the FCC is laughable. The holdup is that the software just isn't ready (ergo why it was locked down and no one was allowed to really touch it).
By commenting on this issue of FCC approval, a reader has to assume that you are aware that it takes 60 to 100 days for approval (as referenced by the FCC site); but to make a comment such as yours negates this sensibility. What you are infering by improperly judging my rationale is that Apple Inc. would wait until April 13th to apply for FCC approval in hopes that it would only take the minimum amount of time (60 days) in order to make that last minute June 30th start date of assembling — never mind packaging and shipping (another 10 days).
This is ridiculous. I know that Apple has already applied for FCC approval. I am also most certain that they have already recieved it at this point.
I do; however, agree with you in your statement of the most obvious of iPhone facts: that being the unfinished software at the time of unveiling. This cannot be contested. All the reporters that have had hands-on time have said as much.
Originally Posted by Louzer
On another point, there's nothing about the phone that requires Apple waiting for Leopard. The phone will work with 10.4 and windows, so Leopard isn't required on the user side. Leopard release also isn't required on the phone side, since its using a different version of the OS, and, as such, on a wholly different development track.
As long as we are disagreeing with each other, I have to say that we DO NOT yet know if the iPhone will or will not require Leopard. This is an unknown. Have you seen it interface or sync with 10.4? I haven't. As far as I am aware, no one outside Apple has. One could assume it would work with Mac OS X 10.4 but we cannot assume it will work with iTunes 7.1 or Apple's current iteration of Sync Services. In fact, at this point it seems a far stretch to think that it WILL work with the current version of iTunes and Sync Services (iSync).
It seem likely (and at this point, nearly fact) that the next version of iLife (and iTunes) will require Leopard (Core Data, new Sync Services, Core Animation, and other stuff I, and you, probably don't know about yet).
Given this, I have to say that I flat out disagree with you on your third point as well.
Oh, I also disagree with the iPhones OS being on a "wholly different development track". The primary reason that Apple decided to bring OS X to the iPhone (and Apple TV and Airport Extreme and etc., etc.) is that it would cut down on development cost and development time. Why reinvent the wheel? They know what they are doing. They have already developed all the technologies that the iPhone needs so they don't need to reinvent them again. Steve Jobs said it himself.