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post #41 of 65
4/1/07 at 11:50pm
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Originally Posted by Louzer View Post

Beatles music on-line is hardly exciting.

Actually, it would be. They're not my personal fave, but they are the best-selling band of all time (over ONE BILLION discs and tapes sold worldwide! Dear God. )

And Jobs obviously has tremendous affection for them, considering he named his company Apple in tribute to the Beatles (who had formed Apple Records/Apple Corps):

Jobs, who co-founded what was then known as Apple Computer in 1977, has previously acknowledged choosing the company name and graphical logo (which, unlike Apple Corps, has a bite missing) in tribute to the Beatles, his favorite band.

http://www.eonline.com/news/article/...b-dbb7259e4d47

How is this not exciting again, assuming it does happen?

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post #42 of 65
4/2/07 at 12:50am
Seems like removal of DRM leads the wave of "what will they discuss at 0800hrs NYC time today".

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...home-headlines
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post #43 of 65
4/2/07 at 1:12am
Someone said the Beatles available for download would not be a big thing; I humbly disagree.

The first company to gain the rights to the Beatles and online distribution will have a bloody fortune coming their way.

I know that I would download at least 20 songs immediately, and I suspect quite a few other people would, too. You are talking lots of "kids" from the 60's, 70's and 80's for whom the Beatles were IT. Lots of kids nowadays also love the Beatles, so I think sales will cross a wide age range.

Just hope the servers can support the rush for the first few weeks.

 

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post #44 of 65
4/2/07 at 2:30am
What would EMI have to do with The Beatles? As I understand it, arent they signed to Apple Records?

I really hope that its DRM free music, but I hope more that its video in the UK. All eyes on the iTS!!!! Its about time that we got some of what you Americans have been enjoying for ages.
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post #45 of 65
4/2/07 at 3:08am
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Originally Posted by Eduardo View Post

Seems like removal of DRM leads the wave of "what will they discuss at 0800hrs NYC time today".

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...home-headlines

Wow, that's a pretty strong statement by the LA Times. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I still think it's just going to be the Beatles and nothing but the Beatles...
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post #46 of 65
4/2/07 at 3:37am
Wow, Beatles downloads.

Now all of those people who have been holding off ripping their CD versions of the Beatles catalogue to their iPods can finally pay apple to download them

I mean, how is this that important an event that Jobs would show up - you can buy pretty much every Beatles CD in major chains for 10 or 12 bucks, I think everybody that wanted to buy a Beatles album has done so already, and if they wanted it on their iPod, they would have ripped it already...

I hope this announcement isn't about the removal of all DRM, that would be a real shame. Totally giving up on illegal copying of music just doesn't make sense. I haven't had any problems using DRM-coded material on my own equipment, maybe I can't play it on my neighbor's equipment or sell it "used", but I think that's a fair price for downloaded content. Nobody legitimately has a problem with DVD copy protection (except people that want to rip their rented movies illegally), and I don't see how music is so different...
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post #47 of 65
4/2/07 at 4:22am
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Originally Posted by Superbass View Post

Nobody legitimately has a problem with DVD copy protection (except people that want to rip their rented movies illegally), and I don't see how music is so different...

I would say the problem with iTunes DRM is its totally locked-in nature. It only plays on Apple's iTunes, Apple's iPod, Apple's AppleTV...and it will only play on authorized computers or synced iPods. If I take that file to someone else's computer, it's pretty useless.

You can't really say that about DVD's. Sony's DVDs play just fine in my Pioneer DVD player. I take that disc and put in someone else's player and it has no issue playing. If I don't like the features offered by one DVD player, I can look elsewhere for a player with better features.

With iTunes DRM'ed music, you take what Apple wants to give you in terms of playback features on all the devices. For instance, I wish there was an option to shuffle songs on my 5th gen iPod for just what I was listening to at the moment, without setting it globally.
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post #48 of 65
4/2/07 at 4:27am
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Originally Posted by emig647 View Post

I go through pcs every 3-5 months

OT, but man... i dont think its iTunes thats the problem there????? geez
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post #49 of 65
4/2/07 at 4:31am
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Originally Posted by gremlin View Post

Wasn't TimeWarner trying to buy EMI recently? Wouldnt it be fab if Apple beat em to it and snapped up EMI! They would have a propper seat at the table then, rather than steve turning up at the record co's door like a salesman!


BRILLIANT!
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post #50 of 65
4/2/07 at 4:51am
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Originally Posted by Louzer View Post

Just because they "think" its DRM free music means nothing. I think its Jobs going to take over EMI. That has about the same believability (unless mac rumors is quoting some unnamed source).

Well the WSJ thinking it certainly means something.

You really have a disturbing amount of bitterness. Let it go!
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post #51 of 65
4/2/07 at 4:56am
Hmmmmm...

Live audio webcast only available on WMP or Real Player??!!
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post #52 of 65
4/2/07 at 5:05am
Odd, An apple announcement on Window Media and Real Player.


Yes I know you can play the WMV file in QuickTime.
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post #53 of 65
4/2/07 at 5:14am
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EMI Music launches DRM-free superior sound quality downloads across its entire digital repertoire

EMI Group CEO Eric Nicoli today hosted a press conference at EMI's headquarters in London where he announced that EMI Music is launching DRM-free superior quality downloads across its entire digital repertoire and that Apple's iTunes Store will be the first online music store to sell EMI's new downloads. Nicoli was joined by Apple CEO Steve Jobs. The event also featured a musical performance by The Good, The Bad & The Queen.

http://www.emigroup.com/Press/2007/press18.htm


amazing news!
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post #54 of 65
4/2/07 at 5:24am
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Originally Posted by Lou View Post

http://www.emigroup.com/Press/2007/press18.htm


amazing news!

And it's about damn time, too! Finally someone in the music industry gives the people what they want! I hope this has an immediate effect on online music sale figures on a magnitude that will force the other majors to follow.

This is good news indeed! Can I get a big hooray for Steve Jobs?
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post #55 of 65
4/2/07 at 5:29am
Fantastic... what a coup.
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post #56 of 65
4/2/07 at 5:33am
Single price goes up, Album price stays the same, encoding rate doubles. Sounds like the archetypal Jobs negotiation!
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post #57 of 65
4/2/07 at 6:15am
The whole range of EMI music will be available... this means the Beatles, too??!!??!!?

Huge news, and whoever said the Beatles wouldn't go for the current iTMS sampling rate got their wish.

This has Steve written all over it, and hopefully is just the beginning. Guess the Danes can't fuss over Apple anymore...

Way to go, Steve.

 

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post #58 of 65
4/2/07 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by McDavies View Post

Odd, An apple announcement on Window Media and Real Player.

Yes I know you can play the WMV file in QuickTime.

They are offering an MP3 of the announcement. They called it a podcast, but I don't think it really qualifies for that title, but at least pretty much anything can play it.

At least now, this is a major coup, it covers two of my biggest reasons why I almost never bothered with iTS. This way, people can put their money where their mouths are and show whether and how much the broader market cares.
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post #59 of 65
4/2/07 at 7:43am
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Originally Posted by caliminius View Post

I would say the problem with iTunes DRM is its totally locked-in nature. It only plays on Apple's iTunes, Apple's iPod, Apple's AppleTV...and it will only play on authorized computers or synced iPods. If I take that file to someone else's computer, it's pretty useless.

Yes, support only for Apple players is ridiculous, but there's really not much point in putting it in someone else's computer unless you're giving them an illegal copy.

I think there should be a difference between physical CDs and data streams - CDs can be shared by passing on the CD to a friend, and music as a data stream for personal use only. Sites like Demonoid and Oink use the lack of DRM in most material to distribute millions of albums illegally each week, and that's bad for all music, especially since most of what's traded is not "superstar" type artists...
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post #60 of 65
4/2/07 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by Superbass View Post

I think there should be a difference between physical CDs and data streams - CDs can be shared by passing on the CD to a friend, and music as a data stream for personal use only. Sites like Demonoid and Oink use the lack of DRM in most material to distribute millions of albums illegally each week, and that's bad for all music, especially since most of what's traded is not "superstar" type artists...

Trading can be bad for music, but DRM isn't going to stop that trading unless you take it to draconian levels.

I would be surprised if the trading distribution doesn't follow the Billboard charts relatively closely.
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post #61 of 65
4/2/07 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

EMI will never be the first to release DRM. Remember? They were the first to add "Copy Controlled" to compact discs!!! And they're still manufacturing discs that have it!

EMI is the worst offender when it comes to DRM. They won't be so easy to repent.

WRONGGGGGGG


this great news to be honest, funny was rerading only thismorning that billy gates is starting to see things steves way RE DRM as well.... kinda funny how he's always a few steps behind...
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post #62 of 65
4/2/07 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by tonton View Post

EMI will never be the first to release DRM. Remember? They were the first to add "Copy Controlled" to compact discs!!! And they're still manufacturing discs that have it!

EMI is the worst offender when it comes to DRM. They won't be so easy to repent.

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post #63 of 65
4/2/07 at 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


Yeah. It's kind of weird that he would say that the day before the announcement.
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post #64 of 65
4/2/07 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by Superbass View Post

Wow, Beatles downloads.

Now all of those people who have been holding off ripping their CD versions of the Beatles catalogue to their iPods can finally pay apple to download them

Well, we now know the announcement wasn't really about that. But considering that Apple has been trying hard for a looong time to get the Beatles on the iTMS, I'd say that Apple disagrees with you about the importance of that.

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post #65 of 65
4/2/07 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by max_naylor View Post

What would EMI have to do with The Beatles? As I understand it, arent they signed to Apple Records?

EMI is the Beatles' distributor. They do have some influence.

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