Originally Posted by SDW2001
The fact is that both parties have corruption in them, and you're a fool to think the Republicans have more.
Why? It always seem to come down to this, that it's some kind of natural law that both parties are always "equally corrupt" so that any given scandal is perforce cancelled out by another scandal from across the aisle.
But history shows that particular American political parties have had periods of increased corruption, unilaterally, usually because of periods of unfettered power.
So after a period of controlling the White House and Congress, and during which that White House has been very focused on using access to the levers of governance to consolidate political power, why wouldn't the Republicans be "more corrupt"? Toss in the fact that the Republicans basically said "We are the pro corporate, pro free market, anti-regulation, anti-tax ones, so throw your lot in with us and you'll be rewarded", and how could they not be?
You think when Cheney meets with big oil to craft domestic energy policy and refuses to reveal how that went down it's a sign of public mindedness?
It has nothing to do with Dems being "better" or Republicans being "evil" or any of that shit that ya'll always want to make it about.
It's just that we are coming off a period when Republicans had all the marbles, put Karl Rove in the White House, decided to turn the entire lobbying industry into their personal piggy bank, started a war, and used 9/11 as a cudgel to prevent any serious oversight of their doings. It's practically an ideal petri dish for corruption, of the large scale, systematic sort.
This absolutely pathetic effort to make all that "equal and opposite to" a bunch of bitchy little kvetching that would be more suited to a junior high cafeteria, just because you know in your heart that it "must" be true that the Democrats are "equally corrupt", is getting really old.
Really, you need to stop insisting that things like the trumped up Pelosi plane deal is right up their with using RNC email addresses to conduct government business, because it's just so very obvious how weak and desperate that is.
Just endlessly asserting it over and over doesn't make it seem more plausible, it just makes you seem stubborn and clueless, which is a shame because I don't think you are, mostly, but you're just really dug in on this point.
Like Midwinter says, if you want to start threads on actual corrupt Dems like Jefferson, by all means, have at it. I will certainly make the argument that there is a difference in scale and interconnectedness, but at least we won't be talking about entirely different categories of behavior.
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