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Originally Posted by ChrisSamsa View Post

It was happening before the update, i was hoping for the solution.

Have you checked the Apple Docs pages or Appledefects?
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post #42 of 63
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Have you checked the Apple Docs pages or Appledefects?

I have, only thing i've found is how to reset the PMU/SMC and i tried that, to no success.
post #43 of 63
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Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post

Download and run http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/ and let us know what it says...

Wow. Coconut has some cool little divices.

Current Battery Charge: 6057 mAh (is this bad?)
Maximum Battery Charge: 6079 mAh

Current Battery Capacity: 6079 mAh
Original Battey Capacity: 5500 mAh

Battery-Loadcycles: 4
Age of your Mac: 2 months
Charger Connected: Yes
Battery is Charging: No


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post #44 of 63
Never noticed any problem whatsoever with my battery.
post #45 of 63
Is that the 17-inch? My almost-new MBP is getting in the 5000s for capacity, not >6000. That's certainly good either way.
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post #46 of 63
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Shazzam! Look at that increased battery performance! Four whopping MAhs....

SCORE!
post #47 of 63
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Originally Posted by majordude View Post

Wow. Coconut has some cool little divices.

Current Battery Charge: 6057 mAh (is this bad?)
Maximum Battery Charge: 6079 mAh

Current Battery Capacity: 6079 mAh
Original Battey Capacity: 5500 mAh

Battery-Loadcycles: 4
Age of your Mac: 2 months
Charger Connected: Yes
Battery is Charging: No

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Is that the 17-inch? My almost-new MBP is getting in the 5000s for capacity, not >6000. That's certainly good either way.


...Or maybe TOO Good ?? muah ah aha a ha h haha hha ha
post #48 of 63
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Is that the 17-inch? My almost-new MBP is getting in the 5000s for capacity, not >6000. That's certainly good either way.

Yep. New 17"!


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post #49 of 63
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Yep. New 17"!

7200rpm drive. Badass. 100gb... That's probably the Seagate Momentus 7200.1, 2.5" 7200rpm SATA the biggest out there is 100gb Seagate, AFAIK. I wanna one for my MacBook. Pity it can't be found within 200miles/300km/etc. of my city here in South East Asia.
post #50 of 63
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7200rpm drive. Badass. 100gb... That's probably the Seagate Momentus 7200.1, 2.5" 7200rpm SATA the biggest out there is 100gb Seagate, AFAIK. I wanna one for my MacBook. Pity it can't be found within 200miles/300km/etc. of my city here in South East Asia.

I've always wanted to visit the Orient. I'll bring you one if I can crash at your place for a month.
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post #51 of 63
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7200rpm drive. Badass. 100gb... That's probably the Seagate Momentus 7200.1, 2.5" 7200rpm SATA the biggest out there is 100gb Seagate, AFAIK. I wanna one for my MacBook. Pity it can't be found within 200miles/300km/etc. of my city here in South East Asia.

They just came out with a 160GB Seagate 7200. It's the Momentus 7200.2.


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post #52 of 63
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They just came out with a 160GB Seagate 7200. It's the Momentus 7200.2.

AWESOME. Now I know what to save up for...
post #53 of 63
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I've always wanted to visit the Orient. I'll bring you one if I can crash at your place for a month.

Heh. Quite a good proposition, really...
post #54 of 63
We had a customer purchase a lot of the Core Due Rev A Mac Book and Mac Book Pro's and every single one had to be taken to the Apple Store for this repair, every one of them.
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post #55 of 63
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We had a customer purchase a lot of the Core Due Rev A Mac Book and Mac Book Pro's and every single one had to be taken to the Apple Store for this repair, every one of them.

Not surprising. With the Intel transition Apple moved from Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) to Lithium-Polymer-Ion (Li-Poly) batteries. Sony is the biggest pusher of these new batteries. I assume it's mainly due to how these defective batteries react. Li-Ion can explode, while Li-Poly merely expand. Considering the number of notebooks being sold I think the numbers are probably pretty low overall. I'm not an Apple apologist but from what I can tell the problem with these batteries lies with Sony.
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post #56 of 63
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We had a customer purchase a lot of the Core Due Rev A Mac Book and Mac Book Pro's and every single one had to be taken to the Apple Store for this repair, every one of them.

Before I bought my MacBook Core Duo Rev A from eBay, the original owner had the battery replaced about 3 months after he got it in May 2006. I bought the MacBook from him in Jan 2006.

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Not surprising. With the Intel transition Apple moved from Lithium-Ion (Li-Ion) to Lithium-Polymer-Ion (Li-Poly) batteries. Sony is the biggest pusher of these new batteries. I assume it's mainly due to how these defective batteries react. Li-Ion can explode, while Li-Poly merely expand. Considering the number of notebooks being sold I think the numbers are probably pretty low overall. I'm not an Apple apologist but from what I can tell the problem with these batteries lies with Sony.

I think this is a fair statement. The problem is very likely to be that of the Battery manufacturer.

In general this is the source of both satisfaction and complete frustration with Mac hardware in the past two years, and I suspect through 2007.

On one hand you have certain components that can handle long running at 85degC(185degF) for years and years, while a few others (battery, dvd-burner[YES MY DVD BURNER DIED, though as mentioned previously CDWriting and CD/DVDReading is okay], hard disk[Hitachi "deathstar"], some LCDs) usually bite the dust within 1 or 2 years.

How can Apple improve their subcontracting process? I donch know. However, this is my approach talking to friends, family and (to some degree) clients. Mac hardware is pretty bloody solid. Except for the bits that aren't. But once you replace those when they fail, overall moving forward after that Mac hardware is pretty high quality.
post #57 of 63
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Originally Posted by jeric01 View Post

I used to have 3 hours of battery life before this update and now it's down to 2 using exactly the same configurations..if it ain't broke, don't fix it!


I am still confused. No battery problems until now. Should I use it? I call the independent reseller who sold me the mbp and they told me I can use it anyway.

But I am a little scared. What should I do? Install it for good or don' bother fix it at all?
post #58 of 63
CoconutBattery Info:

Current Battery Capacity: 5310 mAh
Original Battery Capacity: 5200 mAh

I now have higher capacity. Can someone tell me how this is possible? Maybe I just have no clue how batteries work.
post #59 of 63
I installed the battery updater.
It took a little time to finish (restart etc) so I moved away from mac for a few minutes.
When I came back everything was as always!
What I missed?
Where are the information about the battery status?
post #60 of 63
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Originally Posted by cool11 View Post

I installed the battery updater.
It took a little time to finish (restart etc) so I moved away from mac for a few minutes.
When I came back everything was as always!
What I missed?
Where are the information about the battery status?

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Originally Posted by teedoff087 View Post

CoconutBattery Info:

Current Battery Capacity: 5310 mAh
Original Battery Capacity: 5200 mAh

I now have higher capacity. Can someone tell me how this is possible? Maybe I just have no clue how batteries work.

It's all cool, chill peoples, and enjoy the latest updates from our friends at Apple. Remember, no news is good news in general with Macs.

The MacBook and MacBookPro always shows up in Coconut Battery and some other detectors as having a larger current capacity over original capacity. This is all down to the vagaries of how the motherboard/ PMU/ SMC/ whatever detects capacity, charge, etc. Current battery tech does not give 100% accurate milliamp-hour measurement AFAIK, it's energy, not bits and bytes of specific data.
post #61 of 63
I got my Macbook battery replaced at no charge because after the update capacity was down to 4400.
post #62 of 63
This is great to know... my macbook battery has been garbage in the last few weeks..
post #63 of 63
I had purchased my Macbook Pro 13 inch recently (Aug 2009). Unfortunately i had drained out my battery and when i started it battery symbol showed and X symbol later it showed not charging. (the LEd always showed green). I installed coconut battery, it did not detect the battery and did exit showing error. Later i read on how to reset the SMC. This worked. The LED light turned amber and then battery symbol indicated properly. I hope apple releases a software update to rectify this issue.
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