Originally Posted by jimmac
Well it really doesn't matter how much in denial you guys are. At the end of the day the rest of the world ( most ) knows what scumbag Bush is. Also you want to talk about the low numbers for congress? Well the low approval is because of not enough action against Bush! So where is your logic here? The american people want us out of Iraq now! Bush vetos it and congress decides to hold off on the big attack for now for political reasons.
No, wrong. The American people have had enough of Congress on many issues, including immigration.
The only classic here is people who can apparently read the facts don't ( or won't ) understand them!
I don't think you'd know a fact if it bit you in the ass.
As far as your personal attack I'm simply stating that maybe you should get a life.
I really think the only reason you continue to harp on that subject of pouncing ( which I haven't said for quite a while now ) is it's the only ammo you've got. And it's poor at that.
Not directed at me, so you guys can have at it.
Originally Posted by jimmac
You could " give a shit about Bush " but are a strong supporter in your comments. Like Addabox said you're pretty easy to figure out. You're full of personal attack but empty on real facts.
Jubelum doesn't sound a like a supporter at all. He sounds like a conservative.
We're still in Iraq.
No shit. That took a while to figure out, I imagine.
There was no real reason to go to Iraq. No WMD found. The Iraqi people don't even want us there. And now it's clear we are doing no good there and actually causing harm. And how much has it cost us in lives, dollars, and respect around the world?
We thought there was a reason, unless you subscribe to the Bush Lied wack-a-doodle conspiracy theory. I disagree we're doing no good now. We have to try and stabilize things, regardless of whether or not you supported going in the first place. Mistakes have been made, things haven't gone well....but that doesn't mean we should just close shop and let Al-Queda take over.
We still haven't caught OSBL. And Bush continues to try to tie Iraq in with 911 to support his actions.
Agreed with part one. Part two is a lie. [/quote]
Bush believes in wiretapping even in the face of it being deemed unconstitutional.
That's a stretch. The NSA program has not been declared unconstitutional by the USSC. And yes, he believes in it. Given the war we're in, so do I.
Bush also believes it's ok to rewrite laws to favor his past actions.
I don't know what that means
During his 2 terms he has done more to undermine our freedoms through homeland security and other programs than any other president.
Rhetorical nonsense. Name one freedom you have lost, then explain why such a modification is not needed when we are at war with an enemy that wishes to destroy Western Civilization and our way of life.
We are in serious debt as a nation. This is after coming into Bush's administration with a surplus! Something we hadn't had in years.
We've been in serious debt for 100 years. Bush inherited a recession, and 8 months into his Presidency was faced with 9/11. Despite rising expenditures (which I agree MUST be reduced), the deficit is falling dramatically.
I could go on but his mismanegement and misdeeds are too numourus to mention ( again ) here.
No really, I insist.
The republicans continue to support that loser Bush even though it's clear through his own actions he could give a rip about them.
First, I will thank you not to call the President of the United States a "loser." It's cheap and demonstrates a disrespect for not only the man, but the office.
Secondly, I agree Bush has pissed off conservatives. See my blog. I'm not about to call the man a "loser" though.
Since they support him what can we expect from a republican president again?
Answer : More of the same.
Are you honestly that polarized? You just got done saying Bush has alienated conservatives. Now the next Republican will govern just like him?
Can 3rd party candidates expect to win against a republican in the up coming election?
Answer : Not even close! So the net effect would be that said votes would subtract from any chance of a viable party winning against the republicans. We would get nowhere.
That's likely true.
There's nothing " 2D " about me. I simply realize a 3rd party can't win this time and we need to get out of this deep rut the republicans have made for us. The only other alternative is the democrats. While they aren't without fault they are a hell of a lot better than the current republican alternatives.
Now you can go on making your personal attacks but it won't change the facts I've stated here.
You've not stated facts so much as you have stated opinions. The one immediately above I happen to disagree with. I don't think we're in a "rut." I just disagree with Republican actions right now.
But the Dems? What have they proposed that you agree with? They have accomplished precisely ZERO since taking office. They've told the troops in battle that they've already lost, then continued to keep them there. They've not had ethics reform They've not passed a real immigration bill. They haven't even changed their work week. Now, they have investigated for the sake of investigating. They've proposed a nice fat middle class tax increase. They've said they want to pass a big tax on Big Oil. That's what they've done.
Originally Posted by jimmac
Read your post Jube! The whole thing is a talking point!
You still haven't made a single counter argument to mine. My guess is you can't.
Sorry to get you by the short hairs on this one but you asked for it.
1. False. Not even close to a talking point.
Uh yeah. I think he can.
3. Yeah, you really nailed him. Kudos.