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post #81 of 248
[quote]Originally posted by moki:
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Ah well -- apparently I didn't play with it enough before posting. Mea culpa. I noticed the spell checking shortly after I'd posted saying it didn't exist... as for keychain support, I haven't seen it work yet, but perhaps I just haven't used it enough.

Overall, it is looking pretty nice to me... how about a customizable toolbar option, ala the Finder window?

Also, I've noticed that the Find feature (searching for text on a web page) doesn't seem to work on some web pages. Perhaps it doesn't search all frames?</strong><hr></blockquote>

hehe, just a little surprised that you of all people didn't catch those things
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post #82 of 248
Safari is pretty great out of the box, but tabbed browsing is pretty useful and surely it will be added. Mozilla's tabbed browsing works beautifully even if the poor thing is slow as a turtle (insult to turtles). Not sure why some don't care for tabs. Isn't it a better alternative to having a zillion windows open?

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[quote]Originally posted by DaeargiMan:
<strong>Safari is pretty great out of the box, but tabbed browsing is pretty useful and surely it will be added. Mozilla's tabbed browsing works beautifully even if the poor thing is slow as a turtle (insult to turtles). Not sure why some don't care for tabs. Isn't it a better alternative to having a zillion windows open?

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It definately is better than having multiple windows open.
post #84 of 248
So far I have only one complaint. I wish it would remember it's place on the desktop after you close it out. I leave my dock visable all the time and when I relaunch Safari it's way down at the bottom of the screen. Otherwise it's fast, fast, fast!
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post #85 of 248
I haven't noticed it mentioned, but it's the first browser I've used with favicons! Little thing, but cool!

Way faster than IE or OW on my dial-up connection, too!

Jeff

Edit-not sure if favicons is the word I want, but on CNN.com, theres a little CNN icon in the address bar.

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post #86 of 248
I'm impressed.

But with all the threads I gotta read after a keynote like that, I NEED tabbed browsing right now.
post #87 of 248
[quote]Originally posted by Spiffster:
<strong>I might be the only one concerned about this, but Chimera is the only browser that will split the bookmark bar into two rows if there are too many to fit into one row. That's the only thing keeping me from switching from Chimera. (sad isn't it?).</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's what I initially thought too. I have two rows, as well, but once I played around with the submenus in Safari, I'm a changed man. I think that it's easier to navigate with five menus each with several items than twenty bookmarks.

Give it a shot.

And I wanna see this aqua Safari. Since I don't have Dev tools installed, nor do I really want to, could someone post the changed file somewhere? Or just PM me and I'll give you my email. Thanks!

Also, it seems as if the page just falls off the bottom of the window. Is this standard UI? Should there be a 'buffer zone' there? I don't really like it that way . . . I'm so used to a little progress bar there.

One more thing: Does Safari have encription in it yet? Is it safe for online purchases? I don't see a lock icon . . .

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post #88 of 248
[quote]Originally posted by bauman:
[Also, it seems as if the page just falls off the bottom of the window. Is this standard UI? Should there be a 'buffer zone' there? I don't really like it that way . . . I'm so used to a little progress bar there.<hr></blockquote>

go to View menu and select Status Bar. Looks nicer, and you can see what a link is by hovering over it
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post #89 of 248
There is a haxi that will remove the brushed metal, Its gone on mine
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post #90 of 248
A problem I have noticed is that mouse wheel acceleration does not work. It works on all of my other browsers. The function is built into my Logitech, so I hope they will soon fix this. (I have a dual optical).
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post #91 of 248
[quote]Originally posted by bauman:
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One more thing: Does Safari have encription in it yet? Is it safe for online purchases? I don't see a lock icon . . .</strong><hr></blockquote>

It appears in the very top right corner on the metal; it's a black lock. You don't seem to be able to get any info on the level of security or certificates though.

Someone already mentioned the View &gt; Status Bar thing but there it is again. That'll give you the bottom buffer.
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post #92 of 248
Safari doesn't like self-signed certs, it seems.
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post #93 of 248
like the interface very much, however flash playback is horrible ?
hope the address this very soon
post #94 of 248
Flash was not to bad for me I dont really watch flash animations just flash websites. Either way I`m sure it will be updated in the 1.0 release

Next: Does anyone know how to actually use Rendevous Bookmarks? They don`t transfer at all on my LAN. Anyone?
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post #95 of 248
Here is a taste of Aqua Safari! (Next thread)

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post #97 of 248
[quote]Originally posted by bauman:
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And I wanna see this aqua Safari. Since I don't have Dev tools installed, nor do I really want to, could someone post the changed file somewhere? Or just PM me and I'll give you my email. Thanks!

[ 01-08-2003: Message edited by: bauman ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

Here is a link for those that wanna see Safari Aquafied.

<a href="http://www.defaultmind.com/~foad/AI/Aqua_Safari.jpg" target="_blank">click here</a>


Someone mentioned a haxie. There is a small little utility from the great folks at Unsanity call Metallifizer. It works only with Cocoa apps(programs only for OS X). It will add the brushed look or remove it. It is free. You can get it at <a href="http://www.unsanity.com/products.php" target="_blank">Unsanity Product Page</a>

They have a bunch of great little utilities for the Mac geek in us all.
post #98 of 248
Dang...amitofu beat me to it. Damn me and being at work at 1AM and tired, trying to type a long response.

PS...if you really like the brushed look, you can even make Chimera brushed.
post #99 of 248
[quote]Originally posted by amitofu:
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Yay yay! That looks way more like it! *applause*
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post #100 of 248
Isn't Cocoa (and Quartz) great? Look how Safari handles the mouse over highlight of toolbar bookmarks even in its unnative UI!


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post #101 of 248
HA! foad! Funny how we took the exact same picture and even named the image the same thing <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> We even had the same Apple bookmark thing in the toolbar highlighted!

-Chris

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post #102 of 248
Safari roolz and rox: but specifically it ownz, rendering (as it does) like a thoroughbread, scrolling like a beast, accessing cache like a slippery eel.

I just feel sorry for Chimera. I loved the way they were on 0.6 and were working so hard for their 1.0, all their nightly builds, all their labour. I'd just downloaded a nightly and commented to myself how much I liked the new download manager. I really did think that they were sweet.

Note the use of the past tense in the last sentence.

Now what about tabs?
post #103 of 248
Two small points Hassan (you twat):

1) It's thoroughbred not bread. It's a horse, not a loaf. Or rather a browser-horse, not a browser-loaf.

2) "Snapback" is designed to do away with the need for tabbed browsing ... typically I use one tab as home base and have lots of sprogs off it. With such a fast refresh from cache you don't need to this. Apple like single-window models. A lot.

[quote]Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah:
<strong>Safari roolz and rox: but specifically it ownz, rendering (as it does) like a thoroughbread, scrolling like a beast, accessing cache like a slippery eel.

I just feel sorry for Chimera. I loved the way they were on 0.6 and were working so hard for their 1.0, all their nightly builds, all their labour. I'd just downloaded a nightly and commented to myself how much I liked the new download manager. I really did think that they were sweet.

Note the use of the past tense in the last sentence.

Now what about tabs?</strong><hr></blockquote>
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post #104 of 248
Fanfreakingtastic!!!!

I think however Chimera will still do very well, because of its tabs. For the moment I will experiment with Safari and enjoy.... WOOOOOOOOOOSH!
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post #105 of 248
Turn on HTTP Pipelining in Chimera, and it will screech way past Safari, loading at least twice as fast in many instances.

It's a lot snappier for me as well. With Safari, there's a significant lag while it loads each image. Not so with Chimera.

I won't be switching.

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post #106 of 248
[quote]Originally posted by Utmost:
<strong>Turn on HTTP Pipelining in Chimera, and it will screech way past Safari, loading at least twice as fast in many instances.</strong><hr></blockquote>

To paraphrase Mike Pinkerton (led dev on Chimera), there is a reason that pipelining is not on by default - it's buggy/unsupported.

Also, if it weren't buggy/unsupported, Apple would turn it on in Safari and it would increase in speed at least as much as, if not more than, Chimera.

Quick note to tab-lovers: stop trying to ruin the interface of my new browser.

Why not bug Apple to turn iPhoto into Photoshop or Mail into Outlook instead?

Keep It Simple, Steve!

btw has anyone noticed that (tabs apart) nearly every complaint--of a beta release!--has been total fiction.
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post #107 of 248
What I read from all the comments about Safari it seems to be just fantastic - haven't had the chance to try it myself yet.

Why not make a Windows version and reheat the browser war?

Giving away the source is a start - but it is essentialy important that the look & feel is the same on every platform.
post #108 of 248
I'll never understand the appeal of an MDI interface like Chimera's...
post #109 of 248
my suggested cheesiness to it, a la Mac OS X's "genie effect," is to make the pages "turn" just like an old-fashioned book when you click on links. and when you use the snap back feature, it flip-flip-flips back to the beginning of the site. this would, of course, be a feature that could be toggled on and off, or modified with different wipe effects (which is really all it is, like maybe a rollup effect, etc.) total eye candy, but why not?
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post #110 of 248
[quote]Originally posted by RolandG:
<strong>Why not make a Windows version and reheat the browser war?</strong><hr></blockquote>

i think the ONLY reason apple doesn't want to do it is that they do not want to have to field a million questions of why the browser doesn't work under windows xp home, or professional, or 2000, or NT, on a processor bought from one place, hard drive bought from another, in a custom case, etc., etc.

in other words, apple can support it, because they control everything.

don't get me wrong -- i think apple could make microsoft VERY nervous by releasing a browser for windows, but they'd need bigger guns *cough* AOL *cough*

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post #111 of 248
Okay, I found a UI bug, and I'm eager to tell Apple all about it. But it doesn't have to do with any specific website, so how do I submit it?

Here's the bug: If you click on a pulldown menu in your bookmark bar, and then double click on another bookmark (once to close it, and again to choose the link), instead of going to the bookmark, it brings down the previous menu again. Understand?

So, now how do I gleefully run to Apple telling them that I found a UI bug?

Edit: Just double click anywhere, and the menu re-appears . . . it doesn't just need to be another bookmark bar link.

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post #112 of 248
i have just been using the bug button and putting "general UI bug" as the address
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post #113 of 248
Is it as fast as windows sing? I know it ain't integrated into the os but it seemed like it was just nearly as fast in jobs presentation
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post #114 of 248
[quote] It needs IE's autofill and Chimera's Keychain access. <hr></blockquote>

How cool, it stole IE's autofill too. I was definitely weirded out for a second when I typed V and versiontracker came up.

Keychain: KidRed you say it's there. Well how nice that is secretly stores our passwords in our Keychain, but it'd be nice to have it ASK first, with a neat-o little sheet like Chimera.

TABS. If you don't like them you haven't used them. It's like OS X. I used to hate it, then I used it. They are faster than switching windows, and you can see them all at the same time, instead going to a window menu or flipping through many windows. I have a lot of windows open at the same time, because I command-click the links on Macsurfer and Versiontracker to open tabs in the background. I'm on a modem in Vermont, so it connects at 26400, and I have to pick what I want to read first, so by the time I'm done scanning the news, some of the tabs are loaded and ready to read. Tabs will come, no doubt.

Why did Apple pick KHTML instead of Mozilla though? Mozilla seems to be picking up support from everywhere, there's a real bandwagon forming. I mean, AOL blessed, it has legs. What is better about KHTML?

I have found Safari to be faster than the latest Chimera nightly, which has pipelining, RAM cache, all those goodies in Chimichanga, on.

Brushed metal is retarded! I understood that it was supposed to reflect an app being an "appliance." For QT Player that makes sense. How is a browser an appliance? It looks uglier than Platinum. When I saw the Aqua Safari I soilded myself. I have to go to Unsanity now...
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post #115 of 248
Neither Safari nor the latest Chimera build worked here:

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/tom_bridge/PhotoAlbum16.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/tom_bridge/PhotoAlbum16.html</a>

I was trying to see where the MiniAluBook's S-Video was... is it on the back?

Damn I can't believe how slow IE is compared to Chimera or Safari.
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post #116 of 248
you need to buy a minivga to s-video adapter from apple
post #117 of 248
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[quote]Originally posted by Aquatic:
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How cool, it stole IE's autofill too. I was definitely weirded out for a second when I typed V and versiontracker came up.
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Yeah, but that's not Autofill. Autofill's when your filling out a form or something and your information comes up.
post #118 of 248
Oops I meant toolbar autocomplete.

It needs to copy IE's AutoFill and all those other great features and prefs that Chimera et al still haven't copied. The only reason I don't use IE is because it's 5x slower than Safari or Chimera, but no other browser can touch it's array of features or prefs...yet. I have a feeling Safari will.

Wow I just got Metallifizer! All the iApps look MUCH better without stupid 'brushed metal.'

edit: I was still calling autocomplete autofill.

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post #119 of 248
[quote]Originally posted by Aquatic:
<strong>Neither Safari nor the latest Chimera build worked here:

<a href="http://homepage.mac.com/tom_bridge/PhotoAlbum16.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/tom_bridge/PhotoAlbum16.html</a></strong><hr></blockquote>What? That page loads fine in Safari and clicking images works fine too. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
post #120 of 248
The slideshow thingy wouldn't work for me.
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