Originally Posted by lunocrat
Hardee, the last truce was broken by Israel November 4th.
The truce was barely in effect far before that. Israel didn't live up to its promise to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza and Hamas didn't live up to its promise to stop dropping missles and rockets into Israeli territory. The fact that you don't know the whole story seems a bit discordant with your claim that everyone else are the ones with their head in the sands.
Israel has a bonafide history of breaking practically every peaceful arrangement it has signed. Go through back issues of Haaretz. Hey, it's Jewish, bro!
What does it mean it is Jewish? Would you call the NYTimes Christian? No.
Gaza is inhabited with people that once lived in now-Israel.
Hint: Israel was founded in 1948. What percent of the population in Gaza do you think actually lived in the land that now makes up Israel?
They don't want to be ruled by Israel and I don't either.
I am not convinced that they wouldn't accept a single state solution whereby they are given all the rights and privaledges afforded Israeli citizens, but this has been off the table since Israel's founding.
Believe all the propaganda you want to but it takes an idiot to avoid seeing that Israel is bombing a concentration camp, refugee camp, with phosphorus bombs, bombs in markets, the list will undoubtedly increase far past that acceptable by reasonable human beings.
You seem to think that Hamas doesn't have control over Gaza, that Hamas didn't forcibly exert its rule against Fatah there last summer. It is almost as if you believe that Hamas is therefore not responsible for actions Hamas takes... It's an intriguing proposition, you know, treating the Palestinians as if they were infants unable to even teeth without assistance. I understand this is an attempt to make this a David v Golliath argument, but that is insulting to both Israelis and Palestinians.
When was the last time Israel was threatened with the destruction of downtown Tel Aviv or the mass murder of 500 or 1000 people or overhead phosphorus, nerve gas, F16s, helicopters. It can't happen and you know it. It's a neo-fascist farce. Peres, Livni, the goon Bush, the bootlicker Pelosi. They don't give two shits for peace. They want to control the middle east and I say to Bush, "Go cut your throat, you animal."
What? I don't think Hamas fires rockets into Israel except to ellicit a response. I don't think Israel blocks aid from getting into Gaza except to ellicit a response. They are both acting like adolescents and ignoring the costs to the citizens on the ground.
Emotional. Yeah, Hardee, but not as emotional as if my daughters were shot while sitting at the dinner table; not as emotional as if my quad grandfather was crushed by a bulldozer. You know the list goes on. This is not a war, it's an extermination.
What the hell is a quad grandfather? Maybe you should try to think rationally about a problem that has been TOO EMOTIONAL.
A war needs an opponent. There is no serious opponent in Gaza as there was no serious opponent in Baghdad (Where's the army?).
Huh? A war does not need a singular opponent with an army. Hamas is trying to kill Israeli citizens by lobbing missles (to what end?). Israel is killing Palestinians under Hamas rule by well killing them (to what end?). It seems to me that we have here two opponents. But of course the Zionist conspiracy artists can't possibly believe that Palestinians can organize a force and lob missles, no they are too infantile to do that.
The only difference is that A H would never bomb a concentration in full view of the world. But who the hell cares, eh? All things are equal, right Hardee. Crawl out of your comfortably constructed propaganda cocoon.
I don't see what this has to do with Adolf Hitler, unless your sole purpose is to get a rise out of anyone offended by trivializing the attrocities of the mid-twentieth century dictator set.
Israel's actions are beyond reproach. Hamas' actions are beyond reproach. Perhaps maybe if we recognized that there is enough blame to go around we could come to terms with this conflict. If there are idiots out there who like to think the boogyman causes everything wrong, well we should ignore them. They got us into Iraq.