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post #81 of 134
6/4/07 at 6:03am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I seriously hope you guys know I was kidding.

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post #82 of 134
6/4/07 at 6:07am
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Originally Posted by -dF View Post

I'm kind of surprised none of the ads showed any multi-touch interaction. I guess single taps are simpler, but multi-touch is so cool!

I think they showed it off without actually going "Look, multi-touch!" or whatever buzzword Apple decides to use with it (sorry, but multi-touch just sounds stupid). You saw the guy scrolling through a list of music (wonder how well that would work on a full-sized iPod with 900 albums on it) and scrolling around here and there.

And with all the talk here, maybe that 'unknown' button is used to clean the screen after you've, um, enjoyed the iPhone a little too much, if you get my drift (I'm sure the phone has, many times....). Because, otherwise, you'd think it would just start getting kind of, well, caked on or something.

But lest we be too harsh, it does sound like a great way to keep your friends from borrowing it.
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post #83 of 134
6/4/07 at 6:26am
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Despite the multitude of times I've masturbated to the iPhone, I can't really comment on those new transition effects you mention.

Whoa. Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'Multi-Touch Interface', doesn't it?

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post #84 of 134
6/4/07 at 6:42am
I wonder when AT&T will announce plan pricing.
Has anyone seen anything about this? A point that's confusng for me is what this phone is classified as. I see that Cingular currently lists unlimited data for smartphones for 19.99 per month, but Blackberries have specific plans that are more costly.
I would say that would have to be a concern for people looking at the iPhone. Or maybe most people don't care about that cost??
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post #85 of 134
6/4/07 at 6:48am
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Originally Posted by WakeCharlie View Post

60 minutes?

Advertising on 60 minutes, looks like Apple is focusing on corporate America to fuel the fire for first generation of the iphone. Company managers are probably the only one's other than Paris Hilton who can afford one. A lot of the surveys asking highschool students if they would buy one are failing to ask how they're going to get mom and pop to pay for them. It seems unlikely Apple will be able to get it's 10% market share during this first corporate push. It doesn't even look like their initial supply figures will get them anywhere close to those figures. When Jobs introduces the new ultra-portables in the Fall, expect the marketing to similarly target corporate America. The corporate execs and managers will want to get their laptops to communicate seemlessly with their new necessary business tool. With this new top down marketing model we should expect Mr. or Mrs. CEO or CFO to be the first to get their hands on one. We'll see the execs at Disney walking around with their complimentary iPhones come June 29th and lower level managers not wanting to get left on the wrong side of the digital divide ponying up their own money to keep pace with their higher-ups. Jobs is banking on the iphone becoming the new status icon for corporate America. Just long enough for the managers to have to get their hands on one when their bosses' show up with them during board meetings, capitalizing on the early adopters, upper management, before making them hip for the rest of us with the second gen.'s in the fall. That might explain why the second gen is expected out so soon after the first gen. In order to use a top down marketing model, Apple will have to act fast in order to not let the iphone become their parent's business device.

the only wrong with that is the i-phone does not have apps that other business phones have + it is not a blackberry also you can not swap battery's with as you can with other high end phones.
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post #86 of 134
6/4/07 at 7:06am
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[center]Removed pics to save bandwidth

Notice this first image is the usual setup of the iPhone's buttons.


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This close-up reveals a different setting of the iPhone's buttons.
The obvious answer is that there is an additional button on the screen.

But what could it be?
 [/center]

Isn't that just the iPod button, i.e., music, movies, podcasts, etc?
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post #87 of 134
6/4/07 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by bdkennedy1 View Post

Is it me or does the phone seem a bit smaller than the one Steve was using?

They used someone with big hands to make it look smaller that is really is to give it a "nano" feel.
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post #88 of 134
6/4/07 at 7:37am
Oh man.... the stock is up $2.50 on just a set of new ads and news about the release date!?

How crazy is that?

We'd better head for the doors if the iPhone bombs (not that I am saying or hoping it will.... just worried about all this volatility).

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post #89 of 134
6/4/07 at 7:46am
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Originally Posted by donlphi View Post

These ads are missing a certain "GOLDBLOOM" element...

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Dammit, I was going to say, these ads seem to harken back to the TiBook days of Apple ads. And I strongly believe that that's a good thing.

"Ah well, whatever the reason... Gee, you're just so gonna want one..." - Jeff after trying to figure out why you'd want the new G4 PowerBook. ^_^

What I do miss is the Apple hardware that... ran itself, remember? All the products in the older commercials moved and toiled through their functions without human aid. Like the optical Pro Mouse. :P
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post #90 of 134
6/4/07 at 7:46am
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Originally Posted by Porchland View Post

Isn't that just the iPod button, i.e., music, movies, podcasts, etc?

Nope...he is talking about the buttons up at the top. One picture shows an empty space across the bottom row, where the new picture shows all 4 spaces taken up.

Very peculiar.
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post #91 of 134
6/4/07 at 8:01am
I think this was mentioned awhile back but I couldn't find it in the search.

It appears that the camera lens is on the back so that kind of rules out iChat video doesn't it?

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post #92 of 134
6/4/07 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by Porchland View Post

Isn't that just the iPod button, i.e., music, movies, podcasts, etc?

Don't know. can't see any of the buttons. One suggestion was that it could be a button for accessing your iPhone and AT&T stats. Like, storage remaining, minutes used, IP address, phone number and flux capacitor Mr. Fusion info.
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post #93 of 134
6/4/07 at 8:10am
[QUOTE=Joe_the_dragon;1090053]the only wrong with that is the I-phone does not have apps that other business phones have + it is not a blackberry also you can not swap battery's with as you can with other high end phones.[/QUOTE}

What is the "l-phone?"
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post #94 of 134
6/4/07 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by Joe_the_dragon View Post

also you can not swap battery's with as you can with other high end phones.

I don't understand why this point gets so belabored. There will be batteries for sale to plug into the iphone. Heck, the ones they sell for the iPod probably work already. You'll have as much battery life as you could possibly hope for.
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post #95 of 134
6/4/07 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by Flounder View Post

I don't understand why this point gets so belabored. There will be batteries for sale to plug into the iphone. Heck, the ones they sell for the iPod probably work already. You'll have as much battery life as you could possibly hope for.

Something that is rarely mentioned is that the use of the same 30-pin connector means that I no longer need to carry a separate cell phone charger or even a power-brick as I can just plug into my notebook.

I can also leave various charging units in different location that I frequent. i have plenty of iPod/FW cables and power-bricks that are only good for charging.

And, as you mention, there are already so many iPod accessories that are available for the iPhone just from having this same standard Apple connector.

I even ave $20 from not needing a separate car charger. No one seems to mentions that value.
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post #96 of 134
6/4/07 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

We had a huge debate here a few months ago about different GPS capabilites with various CDMA and GMS technologies. I think Melgross may remember it.

My questions regarding planet-like masses:
Does GPS only refer only to orbiting satellites triangulating your position on Earth, or can it also refer to land-based triangulation determining your position on Earth? Ae we seeing a word actively broaden it's original definition to include new technologies? Is there life on other planets? Are you happy Rosie O'Donnel left The View?

It's funny that you mention The View, because I just finished watching The View for the first time. I usually have school, but alas, it's summer now. Gotta says tho, Kathy Griffin seems like she would be much better than O'Donald. But she's temp?? At any rate, I don't really care.

GPS is different from tower triangulation because it can detect location, speed, and direction, all with fairly high accuracy. Also, GPS uses a minimum of 24 satellites to calculate these values, whereas tower triangulation, as the name states, uses only 3. If only 3 satellites were to be used, GPS would be far less accurate than tower triangulation.

Although unlikely, I might mention that the location could be found via the WiFI connection and IP address.
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post #97 of 134
6/4/07 at 9:41am
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If only 3 satellites were to be used, GPS would be far less accurate than tower triangulation.

Sorry but that's wrong! GPS doesn't require 24 satellites and it can use triangulation techniques with 3 satellites in exactly the same way as you would from telecoms masts. GPS receivers will try and lock on to as many of the 27 GPS satellites in orbit (24 are in use with 3 set as backup) as possible to generate the most accurate triangulation point.
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post #98 of 134
6/4/07 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by BdeRWest View Post

Anyone else who gave Apple and/or AT&T their e-mail addresses feel a bit sleighted?

I mean, this kind of counts as NEW INFORMATION. So where is MY E-MAIL? Watch it comes tomorrow. :-p

Between my partner and I, we have 6 e-mail address into both AT&T and Apple and neither one of us have ever gotten any e-mail back.
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post #99 of 134
6/4/07 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by SpinDrift View Post

Sorry but that's wrong! GPS doesn't require 24 satellites and it can use triangulation techniques with 3 satellites in exactly the same way as you would from telecoms masts. GPS receivers will try and lock on to as many of the 27 GPS satellites in orbit (24 are in use with 3 set as backup) as possible to generate the most accurate triangulation point.

I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu.
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post #100 of 134
6/4/07 at 10:11am
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I'm getting a strong sense of deja vu.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that iPhone definitely does not have GPS. How do I know? Because Steve didn't say it has GPS. The web site doesn't say it has GPS. If a feature as cool as built in GPS existed, someone from Apple would have mentioned it.

If you notice in the commercial, when the hand hits the Google Maps Widget, the map that comes up is already San Francisco. That means it was probably cached from an earlier session. So typing "seafood" searches the center of the current map, just as all versions of Google Maps do on other phones.

It's possible that iPhone can look into your "me" contact to get an idea of which zip code is "home" just like many widgets do in OS X. Or, in the settings, you can put in your home zip. But this is a far cry from actual GPS. When you're away from home, visiting somewhere else, you'll have to put in a zip code, or city/state.
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post #101 of 134
6/4/07 at 10:16am
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These ads are missing a certain "GOLDBLOOM" element...

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Jeff Goldblum... GOLDBLUM. Not 'bloom'. Don't tell me you actually bought the domain for his misspelled name? \

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post #102 of 134
6/4/07 at 10:41am
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Sorry but that's wrong! GPS doesn't require 24 satellites and it can use triangulation techniques with 3 satellites in exactly the same way as you would from telecoms masts. GPS receivers will try and lock on to as many of the 27 GPS satellites in orbit (24 are in use with 3 set as backup) as possible to generate the most accurate triangulation point.

While GPS operation COULD be used with communication to only 3 satellites, it would be less accurate. For one, just because of the satellites times are not exactly perfect, and because of the time delay between communication. The NAVSTAR is the only fully functional Global Navigation Satellite System, which uses a minimum of 24 satellites. Of course, each individual GPS receiver wouldn't be able to contact each of the satellites directly, but there must be a minimum of 24 satellites provide full coverage for the entire globe. You can't really say that GPS would only work with three satellites because then it would only be available to certain locations at certain times (the range of the orbital period for middle Earth orbit satellites is 2-12 hours).
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post #103 of 134
6/4/07 at 10:51am
The image alt text for all three ads is, "Calamari ad."

They aren't all the calamari ad...
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post #104 of 134
6/4/07 at 11:09am
Does anyone else have the experience of clicking on any of 3 ads on the Apple website and getting only "Download QuickTime" link. Needless to say, I have QT, but can't view the ads. Does this just mean too many people are trying to download them now, or something else?
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post #105 of 134
6/4/07 at 11:14am
I know fo show that i phone has gps or some type of positioning devise. If you watch calimary when the info on the see food place pops up in the bottom corner there is a directions to here window. If you need directions to there they need to know where you are.
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post #106 of 134
6/4/07 at 11:32am
Hey, you know, with this whole moving buttons thing, it just reminds me of MS's anti-trust trial and their presnetations where a video of the difficulties of using Windows without IE showed icons on the desktop moving around and appearing/disappearing. It made the whole presentation laughable.

Maybe its a homage?
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post #107 of 134
6/4/07 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by berkowit28 View Post

Does anyone else have the experience of clicking on any of 3 ads on the Apple website and getting only "Download QuickTime" link. Needless to say, I have QT, but can't view the ads. Does this just mean too many people are trying to download them now, or something else?

I think you need Windows Media Player to see them.
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post #108 of 134
6/4/07 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by berkowit28 View Post

Does anyone else have the experience of clicking on any of 3 ads on the Apple website and getting only "Download QuickTime" link. Needless to say, I have QT, but can't view the ads. Does this just mean too many people are trying to download them now, or something else?

I had that last night. Going back and refreshing solved the problem.


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I know fo show that i phone has gps or some type of positioning devise. If you watch calimary when the info on the see food place pops up in the bottom corner there is a directions to here window. If you need directions to there they need to know where you are.

Knowing where one is do not GPS make. For instance, all cell phones have different modes like, home, office, silent, etc. With these configurable options you can choose your ringtone, volume and vibrate mode. Would it be nothing for Apple to integrate these default setting with your AddressBook info. When you choose Home, OS X's implementation of Google Maps auto-assumes you are at the address specified in your AddressBook entry.

I'm not saying that is how it was done, just floating a possible solution that, to me, is simple, elegant and very Apple-like.
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post #109 of 134
6/4/07 at 11:52am
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While GPS operation COULD be used with communication to only 3 satellites, it would be less accurate. For one, just because of the satellites times are not exactly perfect, and because of the time delay between communication. The NAVSTAR is the only fully functional Global Navigation Satellite System, which uses a minimum of 24 satellites. Of course, each individual GPS receiver wouldn't be able to contact each of the satellites directly, but there must be a minimum of 24 satellites provide full coverage for the entire globe. You can't really say that GPS would only work with three satellites because then it would only be available to certain locations at certain times (the range of the orbital period for middle Earth orbit satellites is 2-12 hours).

I guess we both meant the same thing then. Apologies for miss reading your post, although you can get a perfectly accurate reading when locked on to 3+ satellites.
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post #110 of 134
6/4/07 at 11:53am
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I had that last night. Going back and refreshing solved the problem.



Knowing where one is do not GPS make. For instance, all cell phones have different modes like, home, office, silent, etc. With these configurable options you can choose your ringtone, volume and vibrate mode. Would it be nothing for Apple to integrate these default setting with your AddressBook info. When you choose Home, OS X's implementation of Google Maps auto-assumes you are at the address specified in your AddressBook entry.

I'm not saying that is how it was done, just floating a possible solution that, to me, is simple, elegant and very Apple-like.

Or just cell phone tower triangulation. That is accurate up to 100 meters.
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post #111 of 134
6/4/07 at 12:39pm
I called AT&T today to ask them about being able to renew my contract and buy an iPhone. The guy told me, after saying that it's usually 18 months into the contract when you can, "But we might have something special going on with the iPhone." I asked him what and he said he couldn't say anything...?
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post #112 of 134
6/4/07 at 12:51pm
So what are the monthly charges going to be for service on this thing? I find it odd that AT&T has said nothing about that. I don't really know what a cell phone costs per month, but I figure it will at least $50/month.
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post #113 of 134
6/4/07 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by bdkennedy1 View Post

Is it me or does the phone seem a bit smaller than the one Steve was using?

Maybe Steve has smaller hands.=)
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post #114 of 134
6/4/07 at 1:02pm
Well for what it's worth, I called at&t customer service. I'm sure they don't know too much of what's going on but I had to call for curiousity's sake.
Anyway, I told them I just started a 2 yr contract this past April and that I realize it's not old enough for a "contract extension." She said that that doesn't matter because they were told there will not be any discounts/rebates on the phone. It would be $499 or $599 regardless of "brand-new" contract or existing user. So I thanked her, hung up, and called my local Cingular store (Middletown, CT). I asked if they were doing a waiting list and she said that they were. She also said something like "I don't know if you heard or not but it is being released June 29th." I told her I read online and saw the ads and asked if that was the date they'd definitely be available in store? She said yes. I put my name on the waiting list and asked her the same question about my plan being new. She told me the same thing, that the iPhone was not being sold like other phones in the market, that it was those prices for anyone who purchases one. I would just have to get a new agreement and a new plan, which she did say they had no information about yet.

Whether this is true or not, I can only hope. At least I'm 2nd on their waiting list! =)

Has anyone else called corporate customer service or local stores?
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post #115 of 134
6/4/07 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by DanRyb View Post

Well for what it's worth, I called at&t customer service. I'm sure they don't know too much of what's going on but I had to call for curiousity's sake.
Anyway, I told them I just started a 2 yr contract this past April and that I realize it's not old enough for a "contract extension." She said that that doesn't matter because they were told there will not be any discounts/rebates on the phone. It would be $499 or $599 regardless of "brand-new" contract or existing user. So I thanked her, hung up, and called my local Cingular store (Middletown, CT). I asked if they were doing a waiting list and she said that they were. She also said something like "I don't know if you heard or not but it is being released June 29th." I told her I read online and saw the ads and asked if that was the date they'd definitely be available in store? She said yes. I put my name on the waiting list and asked her the same question about my plan being new. She told me the same thing, that the iPhone was not being sold like other phones in the market, that it was those prices for anyone who purchases one. I would just have to get a new agreement and a new plan, which she did say they had no information about yet.

Whether this is true or not, I can only hope. At least I'm 2nd on their waiting list! =)

Has anyone else called corporate customer service or local stores?

same price for pay as you go and post paid as the 2 year price?
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6/4/07 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by DanRyb View Post

Well for what it's worth, I called at&t customer service. I'm sure they don't know too much of what's going on but I had to call for curiousity's sake.
Anyway, I told them I just started a 2 yr contract this past April and that I realize it's not old enough for a "contract extension." She said that that doesn't matter because they were told there will not be any discounts/rebates on the phone. It would be $499 or $599 regardless of "brand-new" contract or existing user. So I thanked her, hung up, and called my local Cingular store (Middletown, CT). I asked if they were doing a waiting list and she said that they were. She also said something like "I don't know if you heard or not but it is being released June 29th." I told her I read online and saw the ads and asked if that was the date they'd definitely be available in store? She said yes. I put my name on the waiting list and asked her the same question about my plan being new. She told me the same thing, that the iPhone was not being sold like other phones in the market, that it was those prices for anyone who purchases one. I would just have to get a new agreement and a new plan, which she did say they had no information about yet.

Whether this is true or not, I can only hope. At least I'm 2nd on their waiting list! =)

Has anyone else called corporate customer service or local stores?

well thats a relief. All a costumer service guy told me was that they were doing something special for the iphone and people with existing contracts that want one. I guess that could be it...?
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6/4/07 at 1:17pm
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Jeff Goldblum... GOLDBLUM. Not 'bloom'. Don't tell me you actually bought the domain for his misspelled name? \

Sorry, I'm not the president of his fanclub, just a guy trying to take a cheap shot at a guy that played a fly and did voiceovers for Apple commercials.

Perhaps you could enlighten the rest of us with your Jeff Goldblum knowledge.

No money has been spent on Jeff or the fake domain name... HA

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post #118 of 134
6/4/07 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by iridedasupabus View Post

well thats a relief. All a costumer service guy told me was that they were doing something special for the iphone and people with existing contracts that want one. I guess that could be it...?

As a long time Treo user and forum regular, I can tell you that Cingular Reps almost NEVER know what they're talking about. I'm not saying any of what she said will be wrong; I'm just saying take it with a grain of salt.

As far as waiting lists go, AT&T was specifically told NOT to create waiting lists, so there's also a good chance that this list will be thrown in the garbage on launch day without notice.

Don't want to rain on your parade. Just speaking from past experience with Cingular.
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6/4/07 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by golffreak_199 View Post

I know fo show that i phone has gps or some type of positioning devise. If you watch calimary when the info on the see food place pops up in the bottom corner there is a directions to here window. If you need directions to there they need to know where you are.

The "Directions to Here" button could just as easily bring down a text input box for you to fill in your origin address, like it does in many other versions of Google Maps. Otherwise, what good would it be for people who want to figure out directions for someone else who is starting from somewhere else?
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6/4/07 at 1:49pm
It is worth mentioning that the EXIF info in the leaked iPhone images had the location entry. Those images could be fake but some guys found that Leopards's iPhoto can actually use this information. Don't have the time to search all this stuff. Some of you know the links and will kindly post them here
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