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post #41 of 125
6/5/07 at 2:15am
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UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Am I the only one noticing this???

• 2GB of 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300)

I thought one of the features of Santa Rosa was it was DDR2 800??? Am I missing something? I don't think they could hit 2.4 without it being ddr2800 and really grinding the multiplier... Leads me to believe these specs are 100% accurate, or Apple isn't running Santa Rosa??? Maybe It has Santa Rosa but apple is using old ram in place of it to get rid of the ram and you can actually put DDR2 800 in it?

DDR2 800 was cut as a feature from Santa Rosa last-minute. The FSB is still bumped to 800 MHz, however.
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post #42 of 125
6/5/07 at 2:32am
well, its about 10.30am (UK time) and you'd have thought Apple to make any changes by now if there were going to be any today...
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post #43 of 125
6/5/07 at 2:45am
doesn't Apple update it's servers at 6AM new York Time?
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post #44 of 125
6/5/07 at 2:55am
that's one hour left!
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post #45 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:07am
bum barm

No higher res display option
No eSATA
Still only 2 USB ports.

no thanks, call me when you make a "PRO" model!
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post #46 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:11am
Nothing on the dedicated H.264 chip then? That would have been a nice boost for AppleTV owners.

http://www.macrumors.com/2007/03/09/...-chip-to-macs/
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post #47 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:12am
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doesn't Apple update it's servers at 6AM new York Time?

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that's one hour left!

Australia store is down.
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post #48 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:24am
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Australia store is down.

That's right. Look at the east. Time zone rules.
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post #49 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:34am
That's the store down now.

First post btw
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post #50 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:35am
Nice, still waiting
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post #51 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:36am
U.S. store down too
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post #52 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:37am
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Apple artificially limits it to 3GB. Unless Apple is using a new method we may be stuck at the same 3GB limit.

No, they don't "artificially limit" it. Whilst Merom is a 64-bit processor, the chipset in the current MacBook Pro is a 32-bit chipset.

The processor does not have a built-in memory interface. The processor is connected to the motherboard chipset via the FSB, and it is the chipset that interfaces to the RAM*. The current chipset will only do 32 bit addressing, meaning a maximum of 4 GB of addressable space. However, the architecture is structured such that most of the last GB is "out of bounds", reserved for uses other than RAM.

* Which raises another issue: FSB doesn't have much to do with RAM bus speed. You don't have to have 800 MHz DDR RAM to have an 800 MHz FSB. Look at the PowerMac G5, for example: it had an FSB of 1/2 the processor speed (so the 2.5 GHz machines had an FSB of 1.25 GHz) but the RAM speed was 533 or 667 MHz DDR.
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post #53 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:38am
Just out of interest, how long is the store usually down for anyway when they are updating it?
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post #54 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:39am
So, there is indeed an update going on here. If it is really the MBPs, then the form factor will remain most probably unchanged.
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post #55 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:41am
'form factor' ?
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post #56 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:43am
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'form factor' ?

Yeah, the current design.
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post #57 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:43am
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'form factor' ?

How hard is it to use Wikipedia? Form Factor.
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post #58 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:44am
dunno, was down a reasonable amount of time for the MB updates...give it till lunch I guess (2-3hrs). you'd have thought they'd prepare the webpages off-line then just shut the store momentarily as they swap the necessary pages over and quickly test all the buttons work etc...shouldn't take too long. somethink like that would take me maybe an hour? to be certain, and assuming they've got a team of people on it then I'd say less - but lets not forget international synchronisation, they want people from uk/us/france/mongolia etc to all get the page when its ready, so to ensure its ALL smooth I think thats where the time taken comes in...
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post #59 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:48am
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chotto disappointing ne... IF they had improved the res to accommodate 1920x1080, i was tempted to bite the bullet... but still, not announced yet.

Honto desu ne. Sugoku gakkari shite iru. Or whatever. I remain hopeful for more, but we will soon know since the Stores are all down.
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post #60 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:49am
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How hard is it to use Wikipedia? Form Factor.

There are still some people who do not believe that Wiki is the New God. Indeed, it is very, very often a collection of false gods indeed.


By the way, I think the new pop-up, or more correctly the scrolling ad for Zune along the bottom of the Apple Insider page-- just saw it in Pink-- has to be one of the greatest pieces of "product placement" stupidity I've ever seen.

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post #61 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:54am
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There are still some people who do not believe that Wiki is the New God. Indeed, it is very, very often a collection of false gods indeed.


I do believe in wiki , just didn't think of using it right now.
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post #62 of 125
6/5/07 at 3:55am
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There are still some people who do not believe that Wiki is the New God. Indeed, it is very, very often a collection of false gods indeed.

Sure. But the computing stuff is nearly always right. It is edited by geeks, after all.

In this instance you look up form-factor, and find an answer to the question "what does form-factor mean in the context of computing?", and it's obvious that on this occasion the information is accurate.
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post #63 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:14am
The MB's were available by about 12.30pm in the UK after the store went down, how does that tally with US times? probably just right for people waking up early and businesses etc...
might be the same this time round?
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post #64 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:17am
1440x900 is extremely disappointing. The industry standard for 15.4" laptops is now 1680x1050. Since the hardware specification would have been finalized before Leopard was delayed, it is most surprising that Apple would not have chosen higher resolution to go with the expected resolution independence. I sincerely hope that the 1440x900 rumor is wrong. I won't buy one with a 1440x900 display.
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post #65 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:18am
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bum barm

No higher res display option
No eSATA
Still only 2 USB ports.

no thanks, call me when you make a "PRO" model!


I am a pro user and I use a MBP that I bought two months ago. It is a pro model.

The machine and the apps are the stepping stones; how they are used makes or breaks it.

 

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post #66 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:30am
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1440x900 is extremely disappointing. The industry standard for 15.4" laptops is now 1680x1050. Since the hardware specification would have been finalized before Leopard was delayed, it is most surprising that Apple would not have chosen higher resolution to go with the expected resolution independence. I sincerely hope that the 1440x900 rumor is wrong. I won't buy one with a 1440x900 display.

I hope the same!, asus G1S has 1680x1050 so if apple wants top line laptop they have to keep up!
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post #67 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:32am
dell has had a 15" 1680x1050 laptop out for ages...and its not even their top of the line model...the resolution is the one area MBPs fall over on, they're good but could be better by that margin imo (and other's)
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post #68 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:35am
Are we going to see flash or hybrid hard drives anytime soon? I really want to hold out for either of these for the speed and batter life.
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post #69 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:36am
With the resolution independence of Leopard around the corner, I'd rather have 1920x1200, but I would buy a 15" MBP with 1680x1050. 1440x900 is not at all interesting for me.
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post #70 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:42am
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dunno, was down a reasonable amount of time for the MB updates...give it till lunch I guess (2-3hrs). you'd have thought they'd prepare the webpages off-line then just shut the store momentarily as they swap the necessary pages over and quickly test all the buttons work etc...shouldn't take too long. somethink like that would take me maybe an hour? to be certain, and assuming they've got a team of people on it then I'd say less - but lets not forget international synchronisation, they want people from uk/us/france/mongolia etc to all get the page when its ready, so to ensure its ALL smooth I think thats where the time taken comes in...

The down time builds a "buzz" on the internet as we speculate on what will be released. It is disappointing though to see Mac updates receiving so little attention from Steve's speeches this year.
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post #71 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:47am
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Are we going to see flash or hybrid hard drives anytime soon? I really want to hold out for either of these for the speed and batter life.

Something like this would be introduced at a special presentation (WWDC would count). Steve would be on stage making a big to do about it.

 

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6/5/07 at 4:51am
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The down time builds a "buzz" on the internet as we speculate on what will be released. It is disappointing though to see Mac updates receiving so little attention from Steve's speeches this year.

maybe there's not a lot to shout about...?
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post #73 of 125
6/5/07 at 4:56am
would be funny if its an ipod update ..
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post #74 of 125
6/5/07 at 5:04am
With WWDC just around the corner, they need to get an update of their Macs out, then they canintro a new sub mini portable tablet with tri-3GHz CPUs and a 200GB flash drive for $599.

Just kidding.

MBPs for sure.

 

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post #75 of 125
6/5/07 at 5:05am
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1440x900 is extremely disappointing. The industry standard for 15.4" laptops is now 1680x1050.

Bull.

There's a gazillion laptops out there with 1280x800 15.4 inch screens. Dell's Inspiron 6400's are 1280x800 or 1440x900 if you pay more (no 1680x1050 upgrade).

The pricier Lattitude 830s have 1280x800, 1680x1050 or a eye watering 1920x1200.

Yes, you can get a 1680x1050 but it's far from being an 'industry standard' whatever that means.
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post #76 of 125
6/5/07 at 5:08am
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With WWDC just around the corner, they need to get an update of their Macs out, then they canintro a new sub mini portable tablet with tri-3GHz CPUs and a 200GB flash drive for $599.

Just kidding.

MBPs for sure.

That'd be so funny though in light of the Apple guys joining Palm. A Multitouch tablet/keyboard Foleo with full OSX. Right back at ya Hawkins.
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post #77 of 125
6/5/07 at 5:09am
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Nothing on the dedicated H.264 chip then? That would have been a nice boost for AppleTV owners.

http://www.macrumors.com/2007/03/09/...-chip-to-macs/

I mentioned this in another mbp rumor thread. I remembered the rumor of a h264 decoding chip and used it as the basis to suggest Apple would be switching to a Geforce 8500 or 8600. Either of those chips completely decode h264 and offload the entire process from the CPU. Looks like I got that one right.
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post #78 of 125
6/5/07 at 5:17am
The first Apple Computer went on sale 30 years ago today. Could that mean anything do you think?
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6/5/07 at 5:21am
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I mentioned this in another mbp rumor thread. I remembered the rumor of a h264 decoding chip and used it as the basis to suggest Apple would be switching to a Geforce 8500 or 8600. Either of those chips completely decode h264 and offload the entire process from the CPU. Looks like I got that one right.

The new ATi GPUs do that too. In fact, the ATi x1600 does it (both H.264 encode and decode). But of course, you can't just pop in a GPU and it'll magically do all the work for you. You have to write the drivers. And Apple didn't bother. Which I find very disappointing.
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post #80 of 125
6/5/07 at 5:22am
every 5 seconds, for the Apple Store.
The internet is going to crash.
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