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post #121 of 137
6/13/07 at 9:08pm
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Yeah, I already did! AKA "nondenominational meditation rooms" NOT "Muslim prayer rooms."

DOH, so you're wrong again, so what else is new!

*yawn*

Sure, frank. Read any good books lately?

Muslims Seek Prayer Room at Airport
Or Google-me-timbers, 'matey!
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post #122 of 137
6/13/07 at 9:31pm
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*yawn*

Sure, frank. Read any good books lately?

Muslims Seek Prayer Room at Airport
Or Google-me-timbers, 'matey!

That was the first link I hit when I did my own previous search.

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Steve Wareham, director of Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, said other airports have "meditation rooms" used for prayers or by passengers who simply need quiet time.

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Airports in Nashville, Tenn.; Columbus, Ohio; and Fort Lauderdale, Fla., all advertise meditation rooms. Fort Lauderdale's is billed as "For travelers seeking a quiet time." All note they are nonsectarian.

Airport Community Counseling and Chaplaincy Office at Minneapolis/St. Paul International Airport offers three weekly services of Christian worship every Sunday.

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A quiet Meditation/Prayer Room (located in LT-3171) is also available to the traveling public and airport employees.

Members of the Muslim faith community can use the Meditation Room for daily prayers.

So what of it? Anyone can walk into the meditation room to "meditate."

Nothing to see here, move along.
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post #123 of 137
6/14/07 at 6:17am
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Doubtful. Most people in areas where people actually walk more than just between their cars and the strip mall aren't republican/conservative. FYI, we have a metric assload of churches (and temples and mosques, etc) in the city, in case you didn't know. I'm willing to bet that I could go anywhere within a 10 mile radius of my house and most people in any group of 100 people I find will say they disagree with your views, and not just about Christianity.

That is actually a good point. Perhaps it's the first reasonable and anecdotal counter-point to my argument. There are some issues with it, one being that you're talking about a single area, not a national average of sorts. Secondly, one might be a registered Democrat but not a "liberal" per se. In Philadelphia for example, you have to be a Democrat or they cut off your arms. Conservatives run as Democrats, because as Republicans they wouldn't stand a chance. In other words, one can be a church-going, believing Democrat without actually being a died in the wool liberal. Especially in the city, from my experience.

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What does going to a christian Sunday service have anything to do with Christ's teachings?

Do I need to prove christian hypocrisy by posting factual data on divorce rates based on faith?

From MY experiences, so called "christians" are by far the biggest hypocrites of ANY demographic!

1. True in itself, though I think you'd find most church-goers are not just attending...they are believers. The entire contemporary Christian/fellowship movement is based on this.

2. I don't see how that would prove "Christian hypocrisy" at all. Whatever that means.

3. Define hypocrite in this context.

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Really? Do you honestly believe that? I am asking this seriously. The percent of people who believe all sorts of fallacies (see any recent poll) doesn't deter you from this view?

Wow.

I sort of believe it. I was really just having some fun to be honest.
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post #124 of 137
6/14/07 at 7:03am
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By all accounts Reagan was a non-believer.

I've read four Reagan biographies, as well as his published personal letters. They definitely indicate he was a man of faith in God.

It's true that he was not a regular church attender during his years in the White House, however.
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post #125 of 137
6/14/07 at 7:33am
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Secondly, one might be a registered Democrat but not a "liberal" per se. In Philadelphia for example, you have to be a Democrat or they cut off your arms. Conservatives run as Democrats, because as Republicans they wouldn't stand a chance. In other words, one can be a church-going, believing Democrat without actually being a died in the wool liberal. Especially in the city, from my experience.

In the city we actually have a small number socialists and *real* lefties who, BTW, don't vote for democrats because they consider them far too right wing. As a result, they are largely irrelevant, but they give people, even apolitical people, a more comprehensive understanding of the political spectrum. That, combined with tolerance and other issues that comes from living around a lot of people, is why urban political views, and likely any political views other than cookie-cutter republican, are still so foreign to and misunderstood by people like you.
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post #126 of 137
6/14/07 at 8:31am
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In the city we actually have a small number socialists and *real* lefties who, BTW, don't vote for democrats because they consider them far too right wing. As a result, they are largely irrelevant, but they give people, even apolitical people, a more comprehensive understanding of the political spectrum.

I mean, heck, we need SOMEONE out there to make HRC look like a "centrist" while she pushes the Kruschev Model. Useful idiots, says I.
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post #127 of 137
6/14/07 at 8:39am
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In the city we actually have a small number socialists and *real* lefties who, BTW, don't vote for democrats because they consider them far too right wing. As a result, they are largely irrelevant, but they give people, even apolitical people, a more comprehensive understanding of the political spectrum. That, combined with tolerance and other issues that comes from living around a lot of people, is why urban political views, and likely any political views other than cookie-cutter republican, are still so foreign to and misunderstood by people like you.

And this paragraph demonstrates what people like you think of anyone who lives outside of Manhattan, Center City Phila, Boston, et al.

I mean, where is it that you think I live? What, pray tell, are my experiences in every day life? I'm wiating with baited breath!
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post #128 of 137
6/14/07 at 9:07am
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1. True in itself, though I think you'd find most church-goers are not just attending...they are believers. The entire contemporary Christian/fellowship movement is based on this.

2. I don't see how that would prove "Christian hypocrisy" at all. Whatever that means.

3. Define hypocrite in this context.

1. How many sects of christianity are there? How "faithful" are these people who follow those various sects, or any faith?

2/3. I guess "He died for our sins." is a nice loophole, so perhaps "sinner" would be a better word than "hypocrite."

4. I find it ironic that the thread is about "a Democrat pushed hard on religion" when it should be "a Republican pushed hard for Islam." Think about that for a moment.
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post #129 of 137
6/14/07 at 9:54am
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people like you

People like me? Who's that?
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6/14/07 at 11:43am
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1. How many sects of christianity are there? How "faithful" are these people who follow those various sects, or any faith?

2/3. I guess "He died for our sins." is a nice loophole, so perhaps "sinner" would be a better word than "hypocrite."

4. I find it ironic that the thread is about "a Democrat pushed hard on religion" when it should be "a Republican pushed hard for Islam." Think about that for a moment.

I have no idea. The only thing I can say is that those who believe Christ died for their sins, those accept biblical teachings and those who live by Christian principles are "faithful."

Sinner...a loophole? You either believe it or you don't. I guess you don't. Call it convenient, or an excuse, or what not...but it's not hypocrisy. If you think it is, you clearly don't understand what the forgiveness of sin means.

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People like me? Who's that?

Nice try at diversion there. Answer my questions.
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post #131 of 137
6/14/07 at 11:53am
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And this paragraph demonstrates what people like you think of anyone who lives outside of Manhattan, Center City Phila, Boston, et al.

I mean, where is it that you think I live? What, pray tell, are my experiences in every day life? I'm wiating with baited breath!



You live in West Chester, dude. That certainly isn't "urban" or Philadelphia for that matter. West Chester, Suburban Disneyland.
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post #132 of 137
6/14/07 at 12:02pm
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You live in West Chester, dude. That certainly isn't "urban" or Philadelphia for that matter. West Chester, Suburban Disneyland.

SDW- you need to apologize for living in a nice area. That means you MUST have screwed someone to have the means to live there. It was prolly a minority, woman, homosexual, or abused underachiever from the public school system. You heartless maggot. How ever do you sleep at night with such success, knowing that the proles do not have running water? You deserve a terminal case of Affluenza.

You also, BTW, have no right to comment on anything. The very smarts that probably help you earn your success are of no use in "the struggle."



Either all of this, or you are the minimum-wage pool boy for some rich cougar.
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post #133 of 137
6/14/07 at 12:33pm
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You live in West Chester, dude. That certainly isn't "urban" or Philadelphia for that matter. West Chester, Suburban Disneyland.

You're an idiot. West Chester is 30 mins drive to center city. It's the county seat of one of the fastest growing and richest counties in the country. And at least two of those pictures are from West Brandywine Township (25 mins to the West), not West Chester. I know, because I've been there. I also never claimed it was urban. It's suburban, and quite diverse. Next time try knowing even a little bit about the topic you post on.
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post #134 of 137
6/14/07 at 12:50pm
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Nice try at diversion there.

No diversion. The fact is that you have very little clue about my political views or the political views or anyone who isn't a cookie-cutter republican.
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Answer my questions.

What questions? About you living in West Chester, PA, population 18000?
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post #135 of 137
6/18/07 at 6:39am
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No diversion. The fact is that you have very little clue about my political views or the political views or anyone who isn't a cookie-cutter republican.

What questions? About you living in West Chester, PA, population 18000?

And who are you to tell me what my understanding of political views is? The fact is that you're doing what you've done for years: Dismissing and mocking any viewpoint that is not your own or inconsistent wiht your hyper-liberal views, all while attacking others for not understanding divergent viewpoints. Hysterical.

Psst: 18,000 is population of the Borough of West Chester. The West Chester Area School District alone serves 12,000 students. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Ch...chool_District. I'm just saying...you obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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post #136 of 137
6/18/07 at 8:16am
(SDW, he kinda is right... You do live in suburban happy land...and only on a GOOD day is west chester a 30 min drive to center city...and that is by highway)
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post #137 of 137
6/18/07 at 8:51am
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(SDW, he kinda is right... You do live in suburban happy land...and only on a GOOD day is west chester a 30 min drive to center city...and that is by highway)

The point is where I live is a thriving suburb. I also live in a blue/purple state. It's a lot more metropolitan than he realizes.
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