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Ahead of its Worldwide Developers Conference on Monday, Apple has released an update to its Boot Camp dual-boot software that adds new graphics drivers among other improvements.

The 274MB release also delivers support for keyboard backlighting (MacBook Pro only), Apple Remote pairing, improved Boot Camp driver installer, improved international keyboard support, and localization fixes.

The beta software, which will be included in Apple's upcoming Mac OS X Leopard operating system release, allows users of Intel-based Macs to install and run versions of rival Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system.

At its annual developers conference on Monday, the Cupertino-based Mac maker is expected to provide an update on Leopard as well as major enhancements to Boot Camp that have remained under wraps for the past 10 months.

Apple last updated its Boot Camp beta in March when it added support for Windows Vista.
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I just downloaded and installed v1.2 last night on my MacBook. Since everything seems to work okay as it is, I probably won't worry about this one. Now I just need the upcoming version of parallels that will let me virtualize my Vista boot camp installation. I like virtualization better but the option to re-boot for performance would be great.
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So what's the speculation on the 'Major Enhancements' to Boot Camp that Leopard will feature?

I think it would be silly of apple to brand their own virtualization solution. But perhaps a quick sleep and reboot feature for both OS's that suspends and shuts down the OS almost instantly... then cube spins to the competing OS.
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I just downloaded and installed v1.2 last night on my MacBook. Since everything seems to work okay as it is, I probably won't worry about this one. Now I just need the upcoming version of parallels that will let me virtualize my Vista boot camp installation. I like virtualization better but the option to re-boot for performance would be great.

The reason to update to 1.3 isn't for the Boot Camp application, per se, but rather for the updated drivers disc that you can create.

Do it for the updated graphics drivers, at least!
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Just downloaded, and it's still 1.2 \ WTF?
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Shouldn't the Apple Software Update in Windows update all the drivers to 1.3 without needing to make a CD? As I said, I just installed BootCamp for the first time last night, so I haven't seen this work yet.
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Shouldn't the Apple Software Update in Windows update all the drivers to 1.3 without needing to make a CD? As I said, I just installed BootCamp for the first time last night, so I haven't seen this work yet.

Apple Software Update (in Windows) does nothing but update iTunes and Quicktime.
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Apple Software Update (in Windows) does nothing but update iTunes and Quicktime.

That's not true. It also updates the AirPort Admin Utility[1], and it will soon update Boot Camp as well[2].

[1] See the listed packages at http://swcatalog.apple.com/content/c...ws-1.sucatalog for proof.
[2] Software Update started shipping with Boot Camp 1.2.
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That's not true. It also updates the AirPort Admin Utility[1], and it will soon update Boot Camp as well[2].

[1] See the listed packages at http://swcatalog.apple.com/content/c...ws-1.sucatalog for proof.
[2] Software Update started shipping with Boot Camp 1.2.

My mistake.

Given that Windows Update pooched my Vista install when I stupidly chose to install the Atheros update, I'd hope that Apple Software Update will pull new drivers down for Boot Camp installations.
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What is Apple Remote pairing?
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What is Apple Remote pairing?

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302545

First Google result for "Apple Remote pairing".
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Now that Parallels has announce an update to Parallels Desktop last week, I no more expect Apple to introduce a virtualization solution. They could have bought Parallels to include the solution in Leopard. But putting a lot of resources in virtualization and entering in competition with 3rd parties offering like those of Parallels and VMware would be badly persived by developers.

They have enter in competition with 3rd parties several times in the past but this time I could be mistaking but I think that this release of boot camp is intended to temper the expectation around virtualization.

People wanting virtualization on a Mac can already buy a version of Parallels for a reasonable fee.

I think that the heart of what will make Leopard unique is elsewhere.

FrenchMac
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ahhh, so ARP is useless for me. Nice for those who would need it though.
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http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302545

First Google result for "Apple Remote pairing".
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I thought Jobs already said no virtualization in Leopard.
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Now that Parallels has announce an update to Parallels Desktop last week, I no more expect Apple to introduce a virtualization solution. They could have bought Parallels to include the solution in Leopard. But putting a lot of resources in virtualization and entering in competition with 3rd parties offering like those of Parallels and VMware would be badly persived by developers.

They have enter in competition with 3rd parties several times in the past but this time I could be mistaking but I think that this release of boot camp is intended to temper the expectation around virtualization.

People wanting virtualization on a Mac can already buy a version of Parallels for a reasonable fee.

I think that the heart of what will make Leopard unique is elsewhere.

FrenchMac
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I just downloaded and installed v1.2 last night on my MacBook. Since everything seems to work okay as it is, I probably won't worry about this one. Now I just need the upcoming version of parallels that will let me virtualize my Vista boot camp installation. I like virtualization better but the option to re-boot for performance would be great.

I whole-heartedly agree! My problem isn't the virtualization vs. boot camp, its just, after all the effort to install Vista and the software to get it to work in Boot Camp, then to find out the Parallels boot-camp support didn't cover vista, I just didn't feel like trashing the disk and building it again. Just way too much trouble.
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I thought Jobs already said no virtualization in Leopard.

Jobs has said many things that turn out to be misinformation. I'd almost go as far to say that if Jobs says something won't be in a product, it probably will be Most companies say "no comment" or avoid questions, Apple frequently lies outright.

I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, I'm sure people here can though
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I know quite a few video artists that were miffed at the lack of s-video support in the last version of bootcamp. Can anyone verify if this has been resolved?
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...perhaps a quick sleep and reboot feature for both OS's that suspends and shuts down the OS almost instantly... then cube spins to the competing OS.

Sounds about right.
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Firefox 2 wont install for me in 1.3
Now the OS X eject pop up happens, cool.
Now the OS X volume pop up happens, only problem is you can't hold down the up or down volume buttons, you must keep tapping them.

There's still a load of anomalies and compatibility problems with iMac hardware in Bootcamp, more work needs to be done, to say the least.
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I thought Jobs already said no virtualization in Leopard.

Phil Shiller said that. But a lot of speculation is been made by analysts that virtualization will indeed be included.
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Jobs has said many things that turn out to be misinformation. I'd almost go as far to say that if Jobs says something won't be in a product, it probably will be Most companies say "no comment" or avoid questions, Apple frequently lies outright.

I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, I'm sure people here can though

The Mac mini could be a good example. An sub-500 computer have been denied less than six months before it's release.
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I'm just waiting for them to enable double-tap clicking and tap-dragging under windows with my MacBook's trackpad.
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Jobs has said many things that turn out to be misinformation. I'd almost go as far to say that if Jobs says something won't be in a product, it probably will be Most companies say "no comment" or avoid questions, Apple frequently lies outright.

I can't think of any examples off the top of my head, I'm sure people here can though

Interesting that you say that and yet can't think of one example. I would imagine that we all have said things that we thought were true at the time and changed our minds later, but to suggest that we lied is quite contentious.

As such, I say that everything you have to say is a friggin lie. And that you are an outright lier, and yet I have no proof except this one posting. How do you like that as your moniker?

Perhaps you should have replied with, "No comment," or better yet avoided this session altogether.
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Adding support for S-vide would be the best update ever.
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I know quite a few video artists that were miffed at the lack of s-video support in the last version of bootcamp. Can anyone verify if this has been resolved?
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Originally Posted by miggs97 View Post

So what's the speculation on the 'Major Enhancements' to Boot Camp that Leopard will feature?

I think it would be silly of apple to brand their own virtualization solution. But perhaps a quick sleep and reboot feature for both OS's that suspends and shuts down the OS almost instantly... then cube spins to the competing OS.

I was just thinking the exact same thing last night after being frustrated with the unusually long start up time for Parallels in relation to the time (about 5 minutes a day on a heavy use day) that I spend actually using the single application that requires the use of Windows in the first place.

This would be a great feature, especially assuming that it offered the same performance for the active OS that you would see if you were only running that single OS.

+1 for Parallels Running From Boot Camp Partition Club
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I just downloaded Bootcamp from apple.com a few minutes ago and it's only 1.2. Where's 1.3? Have they removed it?

edit: nevermind, it seems the right version is up now.
 
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I was just thinking the exact same thing last night after being frustrated with the unusually long start up time for Parallels in relation to the time (about 5 minutes a day on a heavy use day) that I spend actually using the single application that requires the use of Windows in the first place.

Have you tried Parallels 3.0? I've found my boot times to be extremely fast as compared to 2.5. Everything seems to be very solid. Haven't tested out the 3D features however.
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Have you tried Parallels 3.0? I've found my boot times to be extremely fast as compared to 2.5. Everything seems to be very solid. Haven't tested out the 3D features however.

Yes, I'm using it on my MacBook and it seems faster. I've haven't tried the 3D drivers yet.
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Have you tried Parallels 3.0? I've found my boot times to be extremely fast as compared to 2.5. Everything seems to be very solid. Haven't tested out the 3D features however.

I gave up on Parallels the other day after a spontaneous crash (one of many) finally ended up corrupting some files I was working on. I'm hoping Apple comes out with a "quick switch" mode for Bootcamp.
 
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I gave up on Parallels the other day after a spontaneous crash (one of many) finally ended up corrupting some files I was working on. I'm hoping Apple comes out with a "quick switch" mode for Bootcamp.

I've been working with the latest version of parallels for a couple hours and already had a couple problems. I can't seem to get the VMs to stop without having parallels quit, which means I cannot edit the configurations and now one of my VMs seems to have frozen.
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The beta software, which will be included in Apple's upcoming Mac OS X Leopard operating system release, allows users of Intel-based Macs to install and run versions of rival Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system. Apple last updated its Boot Camp beta in March when it added support for Windows Vista.

Is it true that Bootcamp only accepts Vista Ultimate and Windows XP? Which is a bummer because I'd like to install the cheaper Vista home premium instead
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Not true, install any Vista. I installed the Business version with no problems.
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I think that the heart of what will make Leopard unique is elsewhere.

FrenchMac

Agree, and I'm perfectly content with that because I'm happy with the 3rd party solutions in this area.
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I gave up on Parallels the other day after a spontaneous crash (one of many) finally ended up corrupting some files I was working on. I'm hoping Apple comes out with a "quick switch" mode for Bootcamp.

Did you try VMWare Fusion? I found Parallels 3 to be stupidly unstable on my MBP and Fusion Beta 4 has been great so far.
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Firefox 2 wont install for me in 1.3
Now the OS X eject pop up happens, cool.
Now the OS X volume pop up happens, only problem is you can't hold down the up or down volume buttons, you must keep tapping them.

There's still a load of anomalies and compatibility problems with iMac hardware in Bootcamp, more work needs to be done, to say the least.

Also, support for Apple Bluetooth Mighty Mouse.

This one alone makes it worth for me.
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post #36 of 40
Right about the fast restarts... wrong about the cube spin. Meh

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/.../bootcamp.html
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Right about the fast restarts... wrong about the cube spin. Meh

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/.../bootcamp.html

I'm wondering why they didn't mention this more. Loads of people wanted a hibernate mode in OS X and not just for use with Bootcamp.
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Also, support for Apple Bluetooth Mighty Mouse.

This one alone makes it worth for me.

You should have a think about buying a real mouse.
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I'm wondering why they didn't mention this more. Loads of people wanted a hibernate mode in OS X and not just for use with Bootcamp.

Let's hope it's one of the other 300 new features. Tiger (intel at least) already has a hibernate, but it's only in the case of a low battery.
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Hi,

I was wondering if bootcamp would support an install of win xp without service pack 1 or 2 and then just go to windows update and download the service packs I need or install them from a separate disk. Can anyone verify this? I've never used a mac but really want a macbook pro now that the updates have happened. And I have a windows xp disc that has been sitting around forever, but it is before the service packs came out. Thanks.

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